Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-13-15
Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-13-15
Donnie: WHAT DID TRUMP SAY?? HE SAID "IF IRAN WERE A STOCK I WOULD BUY IT"!!
MichelleL: This is "supposedly" the cbi order that says US dollars can no longer be used - does anyone here have the ability to translate? http://ift.tt/1IKAXtW...
MichelleL: wait, here's a quote on that "Unfortunately it only references banks not allowed to use the usd that are Isis owned. It is not ALL banks. Bummer. But it is a step forward to push back corruption which is highly needed."
Donnie: ‹@MichelleL› That came out the other day. My Ladies has someone that translated it. I posted it in here. Also I thought the IQD team (don't know their name) posted a translation also.
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Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-13-15
Donnie: WHAT DID TRUMP SAY?? HE SAID "IF IRAN WERE A STOCK I WOULD BUY IT"!!
MichelleL: This is "supposedly" the cbi order that says US dollars can no longer be used - does anyone here have the ability to translate? http://ift.tt/1IKAXtW...
MichelleL: wait, here's a quote on that "Unfortunately it only references banks not allowed to use the usd that are Isis owned. It is not ALL banks. Bummer. But it is a step forward to push back corruption which is highly needed."
Donnie: ‹@MichelleL› That came out the other day. My Ladies has someone that translated it. I posted it in here. Also I thought the IQD team (don't know their name) posted a translation also.
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Donnie: The Indian government has asked the country’s refiners to prepare $1.4 billion for payment to Iran in an outstanding oil debt, media reports from New Delhi say. Indian refiners owe Iran $6.5 in total for the oil bought from the Middle Eastern country which plans to repatriate its money frozen in foreign accounts after last month’s conclusion of nuclear talks. http://ift.tt/1eRksyx...
Donnie: German carmaker Mercedes-Benz has paid Iran Khodro 42 million euros in compensation for leaving Iran in the heyday of Western sanctions on the Islamic Republic, Tehran-based media reports say. The reparation comes as Mercedes, owned by Daimler, seeks to return to Iran in anticipation of sanctions being lifted after last month’s conclusion of nuclear talks between Tehran and the West. http://ift.tt/1eRksyx...
MichelleL: ‹@Donnie› thanks
Donnie: One of the biggest mysteries in the oil market surrounds just how much oil Iran is hoarding at sea. That's a key question because Iran's nuclear deal with the West could lift crippling sanctions, and pave the way for tons of Iranian oil to hit the market.
A surge in Iranian exports would only deepen the oil supply glut that has sent prices to fresh six-year lows this week to below $43. Iran claims it's not stockpiling oil in tankers in the Persian Gulf, but no one believes it. Up until recently, energy experts thought Iran's vessels held 30 million to 40 million barrels of oil. http://ift.tt/1N733Rb...
chattels: It is said that the House of Representatives yesterday approved the government reforms, and other parliamentary direct legislation laws that the Constitution text on the necessity of legislation and to overcome what stands in general this legislation mechanisms and notably oil and gas law included, the political parties law, the Federal Supreme Court Law, the Law of Treaties, Law Federation Council, amnesty and national reconciliation laws, including the Law Aloutna.anthy Guard Law
BOBBY: Chattels ..... i believe Kap is also running that post about the dollar
chattels: translate.googleuserconte...
Donnie: The nuclear deal with Iran could lead the country to export an additional 600,000 barrels of oil per day by the end of next year, federal energy analysts predict.
The estimate, published Thursday by the Energy Information Administration (EIA), assumes that the deal — between Iran, the United States and five other western nations — is executed successfully and sanctions on Iran are lifted on schedule.
“These additional Iranian supplies, along with relatively higher global oil production and comparatively slower global oil consumption growth, will contribute to large inventory builds next year, resulting in lower oil prices than previously expected,” the EIA said Thursday. http://ift.tt/1N730Vp...
chattels: I do not believe that all of those laws are done despite the article
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› What does it mean ?
Donnie: The surprise end of Swiss sanctions on Iran on Wednesday won’t allow the country’s legion of commodity traders to handle the Persian Gulf nation’s oil any time soon.
While Switzerland is home to some of the world’s largest oil traders including Vitol Group, Glencore Plc and Trafigura Beheer BV, their global operations are still bound by U.S. and European Union sanctions that prohibit dealing in Iranian crude.
“As long as they stay in force the practical consequences for the trading houses operating in Switzerland is precisely zero,” said Matthew Parish, managing director of Gentium Law in Geneva, whose clients include trading firms.
The Swiss government on Wednesday became the first nation to remove sanctions against Iran after the Gulf state sealed an historic accord with world powers July 14 to curb its nuclear program. The country could export an extra 500,000 barrels a day of oil within a week of international trade restrictions being lifted, Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh said this month. http://ift.tt/1U6AFjT...
BOBBY: Chattels...no proof to back it up..... no links
Donnie: i'm trying to get people in here to look at Iran and all that is going on "outside of the box" - the box being Iraq.
BOBBY: Donnie.... very smart
chattels: ‹@Donnie› most people only want to hear " RV tomorrow "
Donnie: that's so sad
Donnie: it's like only learning how to add in Math.
chattels: Final report of Mosul fall announced on Saturday, top official guilty: Zamili uncovers August 13, 2015 Published: 2015/8/14 0:31 • Baghdad (AIN) – MP Hakim al-Zamili, the head of the Parliamentary Committee, that is concerned with the investigation of the fall of Mosul, uncovered on Thursday to AIN that “he will announce the final report of the fall of Mosul on Saturday or Sunday of the current week,” assuring that “a top official is guilty of the fall of Mosul.” http://ift.tt/1RmeaU6...
BOBBY: Chattels..... Iqd team has a translation for that dollar story
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Can you post it here ?
chattels: Parliament cancels living expenses for MPs 2015/8/13 Baghdad (Forat) –Parliament speakership decided to cancel the living expenses for the MPs and transfer them to the displaced families and security forces. Source stated to Alforat News "Speaker Saleem al-Jobouri decided to cancel the living expenses of the MPs and transfer their funds to the displaced families and security forces." http://ift.tt/1OTMbeN...
BOBBY: CBI Translation~~Translation Rumor~~To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) Thanks George Hayduke DV 8/14/2015 0 Comments CBI Press Release Translation To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) 08/11/2015 http://ift.tt/1J5blX2... www.cbi.iq/ http://ift.tt/1PoSgQF;
We posted the above Press Release and have been waiting for a translation from someone I met thru email a couple days ago who is in Baghdad but have NOT received yet. Then I started receiving many emails saying the following:
A certain Guru said this is what it said but there was NO link just the following statement: ALL BANKS ARE NOW TO ONLY TRADE IN DINARS AND THE US DOLLAR TRADE IS SUSPENDED IN IRAQ SO I SEARCHED AND FOUND THE FOLLOWING: Thank you to George Hayduke DV I found this posted by George Hayduke, Sr Member Dinar Vets Posted Yesterday, 01:06 PM I just checked with a friend of mine in Baghdad who said the following:
Document - http://ift.tt/1J5blX2... no more work with US $ for the 2 Iranian bank in Baghdad. I'm not sure that either one has anything to do with complete de-dollarization of Iraq's currency but is more directed toward terrorists and the black market.
Still, it is good news that some degree of currency reform is taking place. Posted Yesterday, 07:47 PM An official translator in Iraq provided the following: CBI001 See Below
BOBBY: above from the IQD TEAM
BOBBY: whitelions was checking on this early today
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› ty
BOBBY: Chattels. ... my pleasure sir.... very curious about this
TxBrand: That's why its very iffy to believe anything they say...in any article out there... we CAN NOT translate... it just will not happen correctly
BOBBY: TxBrand..... it is being questioned
BOBBY: i agree with what you say about the source
Butifldrm: Hi everyone
Butifldrm: Just wanted to drop in ans say hello
BOBBY: evening
Butifldrm: ‹@BOBBY› are you te only one here? lol
Butifldrm: as u can see I don't chat much ...because I am a handicapped typer
Butifldrm: I wanted to come in and talk about something I discovered last night
Butifldrm: I'm not sure if anyone saw this in My reset thread but I do believe Iraq and about every country is caught in a game of thrones
BOBBY: nobody types worse then i do lol
Butifldrm: youtu.be/PCAFnCo6nyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCAFnCo6nyM&feature=youtu.be
Butifldrm: Kerry spills the beans here
Butifldrm: I'm not sure how to post the video other than a link, but this is truly an eye opener
BOBBY: lol....... strike one
Butifldrm: Bobby watch the video
Butifldrm: Kerry tells it all
BOBBY: I will..... i was going over your reset posts early today
Butifldrm: basically to initiate this Iran deal, he convinced China, India the largest oil consumers to stop buying oil, from IMO the US and all oather oil producing nations to puch this Iran deal through.
Notice what he says! "If the Iran deal does not go through, the dollar could loose it's reserve currency status
Butifldrm: These are scarry times
BOBBY: Butifldrm...... speaking of.. did you see the unverified post going around about the dollar being suspended in Iraq?
Butifldrm: No I did not
Butifldrm: :lot's of thing happening right now
Butifldrm: the cabinet has suspended meeting till further notice
Butifldrm: we should see an official CBI announcement to suspend trading the dollar
BOBBY: lots of things to watch
Butifldrm: Yes absolutely and be prepared for
Butifldrm: I am doubtful this Iran deal will go through
Butifldrm: just like the 2010 code of reforms for China
Butifldrm: Ok well I have more research to do Have a good night
chattels: US newspaper: there is imminent risk Balebadi may threaten his life for his reforms [ccxxzz1-500x282] BAGHDAD - Iraq Press - August 13 / August: newspaper "Washington Post" the American revealed the receipt of a report on the looming dangers of the prime minister, Haydar al-Abadi, could threaten his life.
It quoted a member of the House of Representatives in Kurdistan, Sirwan Cerny, saying , "We expect to There are assassination attempts because the events so powerful changes is not easy to Iraq. " As The newspaper Tomb "leader of the Dawa Party, on the Keywords, that" the nature of human beings that do not give up easily when exposed to harm their interests. "
And went on saying , that "al-Abadi plan that includes the initiative to conduct investigations into the files of corruption and an end to sectarian system followed in the selection of senior positions in the government, and the elimination of positions of the three Vice-President of the Republic, with the Vice-Presidents of the three ministers also,"
indicating that "al-Abadi when he took power in last September, Iraq was mired with corruption being at the same time a difficult security crisis represented by the militants Daash control of nearly a third of the territory of the country. " http://ift.tt/1AJlchw
Stash: XE 1144
BOBBY: Chattels. ... do you remember about half a year ago Abadi said he was willing to be assassinated for the good of Iraq?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› something like that, yes
chattels: Dr. KIng did not make it to the " promised land " either.
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... as you know the middle east, things get settled with a bullet
Captsalt: ‹@BOBBY› Ah, come on ... just checking them for lead allergies. :)
GJMAN: ‹@Butifldrm› didn't we see the CBI announcement yesterday
GJMAN: To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars )
GJMAN: cbi.iq/
Donnie: German carmaker Mercedes-Benz has paid Iran Khodro 42 million euros in compensation for leaving Iran in the heyday of Western sanctions on the Islamic Republic, Tehran-based media reports say. The reparation comes as Mercedes, owned by Daimler, seeks to return to Iran in anticipation of sanctions being lifted after last month’s conclusion of nuclear talks between Tehran and the West. http://ift.tt/1eRksyx...
MichelleL: ‹@Donnie› thanks
Donnie: One of the biggest mysteries in the oil market surrounds just how much oil Iran is hoarding at sea. That's a key question because Iran's nuclear deal with the West could lift crippling sanctions, and pave the way for tons of Iranian oil to hit the market.
A surge in Iranian exports would only deepen the oil supply glut that has sent prices to fresh six-year lows this week to below $43. Iran claims it's not stockpiling oil in tankers in the Persian Gulf, but no one believes it. Up until recently, energy experts thought Iran's vessels held 30 million to 40 million barrels of oil. http://ift.tt/1N733Rb...
chattels: It is said that the House of Representatives yesterday approved the government reforms, and other parliamentary direct legislation laws that the Constitution text on the necessity of legislation and to overcome what stands in general this legislation mechanisms and notably oil and gas law included, the political parties law, the Federal Supreme Court Law, the Law of Treaties, Law Federation Council, amnesty and national reconciliation laws, including the Law Aloutna.anthy Guard Law
BOBBY: Chattels ..... i believe Kap is also running that post about the dollar
chattels: translate.googleuserconte...
Donnie: The nuclear deal with Iran could lead the country to export an additional 600,000 barrels of oil per day by the end of next year, federal energy analysts predict.
The estimate, published Thursday by the Energy Information Administration (EIA), assumes that the deal — between Iran, the United States and five other western nations — is executed successfully and sanctions on Iran are lifted on schedule.
“These additional Iranian supplies, along with relatively higher global oil production and comparatively slower global oil consumption growth, will contribute to large inventory builds next year, resulting in lower oil prices than previously expected,” the EIA said Thursday. http://ift.tt/1N730Vp...
chattels: I do not believe that all of those laws are done despite the article
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› What does it mean ?
Donnie: The surprise end of Swiss sanctions on Iran on Wednesday won’t allow the country’s legion of commodity traders to handle the Persian Gulf nation’s oil any time soon.
While Switzerland is home to some of the world’s largest oil traders including Vitol Group, Glencore Plc and Trafigura Beheer BV, their global operations are still bound by U.S. and European Union sanctions that prohibit dealing in Iranian crude.
“As long as they stay in force the practical consequences for the trading houses operating in Switzerland is precisely zero,” said Matthew Parish, managing director of Gentium Law in Geneva, whose clients include trading firms.
The Swiss government on Wednesday became the first nation to remove sanctions against Iran after the Gulf state sealed an historic accord with world powers July 14 to curb its nuclear program. The country could export an extra 500,000 barrels a day of oil within a week of international trade restrictions being lifted, Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh said this month. http://ift.tt/1U6AFjT...
BOBBY: Chattels...no proof to back it up..... no links
Donnie: i'm trying to get people in here to look at Iran and all that is going on "outside of the box" - the box being Iraq.
BOBBY: Donnie.... very smart
chattels: ‹@Donnie› most people only want to hear " RV tomorrow "
Donnie: that's so sad
Donnie: it's like only learning how to add in Math.
chattels: Final report of Mosul fall announced on Saturday, top official guilty: Zamili uncovers August 13, 2015 Published: 2015/8/14 0:31 • Baghdad (AIN) – MP Hakim al-Zamili, the head of the Parliamentary Committee, that is concerned with the investigation of the fall of Mosul, uncovered on Thursday to AIN that “he will announce the final report of the fall of Mosul on Saturday or Sunday of the current week,” assuring that “a top official is guilty of the fall of Mosul.” http://ift.tt/1RmeaU6...
BOBBY: Chattels..... Iqd team has a translation for that dollar story
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Can you post it here ?
chattels: Parliament cancels living expenses for MPs 2015/8/13 Baghdad (Forat) –Parliament speakership decided to cancel the living expenses for the MPs and transfer them to the displaced families and security forces. Source stated to Alforat News "Speaker Saleem al-Jobouri decided to cancel the living expenses of the MPs and transfer their funds to the displaced families and security forces." http://ift.tt/1OTMbeN...
BOBBY: CBI Translation~~Translation Rumor~~To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) Thanks George Hayduke DV 8/14/2015 0 Comments CBI Press Release Translation To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) 08/11/2015 http://ift.tt/1J5blX2... www.cbi.iq/ http://ift.tt/1PoSgQF;
We posted the above Press Release and have been waiting for a translation from someone I met thru email a couple days ago who is in Baghdad but have NOT received yet. Then I started receiving many emails saying the following:
A certain Guru said this is what it said but there was NO link just the following statement: ALL BANKS ARE NOW TO ONLY TRADE IN DINARS AND THE US DOLLAR TRADE IS SUSPENDED IN IRAQ SO I SEARCHED AND FOUND THE FOLLOWING: Thank you to George Hayduke DV I found this posted by George Hayduke, Sr Member Dinar Vets Posted Yesterday, 01:06 PM I just checked with a friend of mine in Baghdad who said the following:
Document - http://ift.tt/1J5blX2... no more work with US $ for the 2 Iranian bank in Baghdad. I'm not sure that either one has anything to do with complete de-dollarization of Iraq's currency but is more directed toward terrorists and the black market.
Still, it is good news that some degree of currency reform is taking place. Posted Yesterday, 07:47 PM An official translator in Iraq provided the following: CBI001 See Below
BOBBY: above from the IQD TEAM
BOBBY: whitelions was checking on this early today
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› ty
BOBBY: Chattels. ... my pleasure sir.... very curious about this
TxBrand: That's why its very iffy to believe anything they say...in any article out there... we CAN NOT translate... it just will not happen correctly
BOBBY: TxBrand..... it is being questioned
BOBBY: i agree with what you say about the source
Butifldrm: Hi everyone
Butifldrm: Just wanted to drop in ans say hello
BOBBY: evening
Butifldrm: ‹@BOBBY› are you te only one here? lol
Butifldrm: as u can see I don't chat much ...because I am a handicapped typer
Butifldrm: I wanted to come in and talk about something I discovered last night
Butifldrm: I'm not sure if anyone saw this in My reset thread but I do believe Iraq and about every country is caught in a game of thrones
BOBBY: nobody types worse then i do lol
Butifldrm: youtu.be/PCAFnCo6nyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCAFnCo6nyM&feature=youtu.be
Butifldrm: Kerry spills the beans here
Butifldrm: I'm not sure how to post the video other than a link, but this is truly an eye opener
BOBBY: lol....... strike one
Butifldrm: Bobby watch the video
Butifldrm: Kerry tells it all
BOBBY: I will..... i was going over your reset posts early today
Butifldrm: basically to initiate this Iran deal, he convinced China, India the largest oil consumers to stop buying oil, from IMO the US and all oather oil producing nations to puch this Iran deal through.
Notice what he says! "If the Iran deal does not go through, the dollar could loose it's reserve currency status
Butifldrm: These are scarry times
BOBBY: Butifldrm...... speaking of.. did you see the unverified post going around about the dollar being suspended in Iraq?
Butifldrm: No I did not
Butifldrm: :lot's of thing happening right now
Butifldrm: the cabinet has suspended meeting till further notice
Butifldrm: we should see an official CBI announcement to suspend trading the dollar
BOBBY: lots of things to watch
Butifldrm: Yes absolutely and be prepared for
Butifldrm: I am doubtful this Iran deal will go through
Butifldrm: just like the 2010 code of reforms for China
Butifldrm: Ok well I have more research to do Have a good night
chattels: US newspaper: there is imminent risk Balebadi may threaten his life for his reforms [ccxxzz1-500x282] BAGHDAD - Iraq Press - August 13 / August: newspaper "Washington Post" the American revealed the receipt of a report on the looming dangers of the prime minister, Haydar al-Abadi, could threaten his life.
It quoted a member of the House of Representatives in Kurdistan, Sirwan Cerny, saying , "We expect to There are assassination attempts because the events so powerful changes is not easy to Iraq. " As The newspaper Tomb "leader of the Dawa Party, on the Keywords, that" the nature of human beings that do not give up easily when exposed to harm their interests. "
And went on saying , that "al-Abadi plan that includes the initiative to conduct investigations into the files of corruption and an end to sectarian system followed in the selection of senior positions in the government, and the elimination of positions of the three Vice-President of the Republic, with the Vice-Presidents of the three ministers also,"
indicating that "al-Abadi when he took power in last September, Iraq was mired with corruption being at the same time a difficult security crisis represented by the militants Daash control of nearly a third of the territory of the country. " http://ift.tt/1AJlchw
Stash: XE 1144
BOBBY: Chattels. ... do you remember about half a year ago Abadi said he was willing to be assassinated for the good of Iraq?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› something like that, yes
chattels: Dr. KIng did not make it to the " promised land " either.
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... as you know the middle east, things get settled with a bullet
Captsalt: ‹@BOBBY› Ah, come on ... just checking them for lead allergies. :)
GJMAN: ‹@Butifldrm› didn't we see the CBI announcement yesterday
GJMAN: To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars )
GJMAN: cbi.iq/
BB824: why is everywhere there are more iqd out than they could afford to pay for even if it hits .50...
TxBrand: I don't understand how they would have to pay for currency that we have ...
BB824: we have across the world
TxBrand: does the us have to pay for currency that some other country has ?
BB824: when we cash in
BOBBY: Iraq is not buying the currency we have,
TxBrand: we don't cash in ... we exchange
BB824: so what's the logic answer to that
BB824: so what's the logic to all that
TxBrand: what currency is out there is out there...
BOBBY: whats your question
TxBrand: I guess you could say they have already paid for it.... in a round about way...
BB824: have you seen heard that question before
BOBBY: still trying to understand your question
BB824: Well all the dinar out in the world they say more is out there if it .50 or 1.00
BB824: how could they pay for it
BOBBY: iraq is not paying for it
BB824: hold on I'll go get the question
BOBBY: there dinar increases in value, there get more purchasing power / more for there dinar
BOBBY: We exchange the dinar and recieve the rate increase, which will be the digital number in a bank account etc.
BOBBY: it will be a currency exchange at the increased rate when it is time
BOBBY: banks will charge there fee/spread and make there money,then make money off the deposited money by loans etc.
BOBBY: i am sure there will be plenty of info when the time comes, till then treat as opinion s until facts are presented
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TxBrand: I don't understand how they would have to pay for currency that we have ...
BB824: we have across the world
TxBrand: does the us have to pay for currency that some other country has ?
BB824: when we cash in
BOBBY: Iraq is not buying the currency we have,
TxBrand: we don't cash in ... we exchange
BB824: so what's the logic answer to that
BB824: so what's the logic to all that
TxBrand: what currency is out there is out there...
BOBBY: whats your question
TxBrand: I guess you could say they have already paid for it.... in a round about way...
BB824: have you seen heard that question before
BOBBY: still trying to understand your question
BB824: Well all the dinar out in the world they say more is out there if it .50 or 1.00
BB824: how could they pay for it
BOBBY: iraq is not paying for it
BB824: hold on I'll go get the question
BOBBY: there dinar increases in value, there get more purchasing power / more for there dinar
BOBBY: We exchange the dinar and recieve the rate increase, which will be the digital number in a bank account etc.
BOBBY: it will be a currency exchange at the increased rate when it is time
BOBBY: banks will charge there fee/spread and make there money,then make money off the deposited money by loans etc.
BOBBY: i am sure there will be plenty of info when the time comes, till then treat as opinion s until facts are presented
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