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Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-29-15
TxBrand: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate · 3h3 hours ago Abadi appointed new deputy commander of Anbar Ops, new 10th division and 8th division commanders http://twitter.com/IraqLiveUpdat...
https://twitter.com/IraqLiveUpdate/status/637754821014102016
chattels: MP for the Bloc Mohammed Ali al-Masoudi that the political and economic reforms launched by the federal government and approved by parliament need some time to show results on the Iraqi economy. He said to the correspondent of National Iraqi News Agency / NINA /
"The integration of the ministries and the abolition of the number of process positions and reducing the protections and retrenchment will have significant effects on the provision of liquidity to the Iraqi government, especially during the end of this year and the beginning of 2016, which is hoped to be his plan more realistic and useful than previous years. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
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Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-29-15
TxBrand: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate · 3h3 hours ago Abadi appointed new deputy commander of Anbar Ops, new 10th division and 8th division commanders http://twitter.com/IraqLiveUpdat...
https://twitter.com/IraqLiveUpdate/status/637754821014102016
chattels: MP for the Bloc Mohammed Ali al-Masoudi that the political and economic reforms launched by the federal government and approved by parliament need some time to show results on the Iraqi economy. He said to the correspondent of National Iraqi News Agency / NINA /
"The integration of the ministries and the abolition of the number of process positions and reducing the protections and retrenchment will have significant effects on the provision of liquidity to the Iraqi government, especially during the end of this year and the beginning of 2016, which is hoped to be his plan more realistic and useful than previous years. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
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chattels: " ............... the political and economic reforms launched by the federal government and approved by parliament need some time to show results on the Iraqi economy."
chattels: " ........... will have significant effects on the provision of liquidity to the Iraqi government, especially during the end of this year and the beginning of 2016, ......... "
chattels: MP confirmed for the citizen Bloc Layla al-Khafaji, said that "the vote on the law of parties is an achievement of the parliament because it represents a package of reforms."
Said al-Khafaji, in a press statement that "the law of parties representing the reforms package and regulates the functioning of political parties in terms of its activities and its relationship with other countries and the issue of its founding and linking them to the Department of party affairs.
chattels: "She added that" the law also identified the issue of subsidies from the state where you must rely on the participation of two sessions constituencies The law also banned on the parties to exercise their activities and interference in other countries.
chattels: "She continued that" the law impose penalties on parties that are contrary to the provisions of this law, and gave notice a year to adapt to the law to determine its activities, "asserting that" the law will encourage political pluralism in the country and served by a lot. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1LKs98o
chattels: " .......... gave notice a year to adapt to the law to determine its activities, ......... "
chattels: The notion that reforms, even if enacted and implemented, will immediately impact upon the Iraqi economy or the political process seems fanciful to me.
chattels: All reforms taken together do not remove or cure a culture of corruption, the presence of DAESH nor do they increase the price of oil which is still essential to close the extraordinary budget shortfall.
chattels: There is reason to be hopeful for a new era in Iraq, but patience is required, IMO.
chattels: I read today a good description of the reforms as " nascent " which is defined as " just coming into existence and beginning to display signs of future potential ' and synonymous with " just beginning, budding, developing, growing, embryonic, incipient, young, fledgling, evolving, emergent, dawning, burgeoning ".
] chattels: Rafidain Bank announced the recovery of tens of billions of dinars were leaked to the public market and are operated by some quarters and crooked ways. The general director of the bank on behalf of Kamal al-Hassani in a press statement that many of the financial manipulations and abuses have been exposed. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1hojTgO
chattels: Central Commission for compensation for those affected by the military operations and military mistakes and terrorist operations in the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers announced that the Subcommittee in the province of Kirkuk and distributed more than / 3 / billion dinars between those affected by the terror victims citizens. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1LKsasJ
chattels: The Iraqi constitution requires that victims of terrorism be compensated by the GOI thus the costs of the war with DAESH is not limited to the military, but includes reparation to civilians. None of the foregoing is budgeted that I am aware of therefore adding to the deficit and draining reserves.
chattels: To veil or not to veil: Iraqi women face scrutiny over their choices BAGHDAD — The Najaf Nationality Directorate, south of Baghdad, refused to grant a travel permit to civil activist and Iraqi citizen Intisar Alyawi al-Mayali July 5 because she appeared unveiled in the photo attached to her passport.
This incident sparked outrage and highlighted once again the conflict between secularists and the conservative current typified by Islamist groups. Civil activist Intisar Yassin commented on the incident to Al-Monitor, “Not granting an unveiled woman a passport is a violation of human rights by a staff member who ignores the law and constitution when processing the citizens’ files.”
One of the main conflicts between secularists and Islamists revolves around the civil and intellectual identity of Iraqi women.
There is an enormous contrast in stances on women’s rights in Iraq. Although secularists point out that the Iraqi Constitution guarantees the civil rights of all citizens, Islamists have no trouble finding religious, social and moral pretexts to justify their viewpoint and actions.
This conflict clearly reveals the political balance of power tipping to the Islamists’ side. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1PFtqva
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... good to see you sir :smile:
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› good evening friend :)
chattels: Iraq is a nation at war with itself and DAESH.
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... sums it up in one sentence
chattels: " A house divided against itself cannot stand." - A. Lincoln
BOBBY: at least there making some progress
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Yes.
chattels: But reform can be a dangerous dynamic.
chattels: Arguably reform is a " controlled revolution ".
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... that is true..... Abadi is pushing the rock up the proverbial hill
chattels: There is always the possibility that the impetus for reform exceeds the governments ability to control it.
chattels: Which is why adherence to the constitution and / or amendment of the constitution under the rule of law is paramount and on the minds of Barzani, Nujaify, Allawi, etc., IMO
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I hope that the rock does not roll back upon Abadi.
BOBBY: Chattels. .......... i believe they are covering there a $$es in laymens terms lol
chattels: The pundits that speak of reform as a foregone conclusion and as a mercurial and linear event are mistaken, IMO.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Perhaps :)
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... every inch of improvement come at a price over there
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› The human costs has been and will continue to be terrible.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› The " RV " is seen as a panacea for all that ails Iraq by many, but such thinking begs the question of which comes first, the proverbial chicken v. egg ?
BOBBY: Chattels. ........ it is not a cure all for the problems over there
chattels: Does security and stability in Iraq yield the completion of banking / monetary reform or does monetary reform yield stability and security in Iraq ? I think that it is the former.
chattels: I think that Shabbibi said as much.
BOBBY: Chattels. ......... i do agree ........ LJ has been saying it for a long time to....... its not a popular view
chattels: I am not speaking of ABSOLUTE security and stability, but RELATIVELY speaking.
BOBBY: there will always be some kind of division between the tribes
chattels: Democracy can be a messy business even for the established practitioners of it.
BOBBY: we prove that every day lol
chattels: What should we expect of a " teenage democracy " ?
BOBBY: like i told mine,be home by 10. lol
chattels: and beware of the company that you keep, eh ?
BOBBY: show me your friends and see who you are. ..... a tough lesson learned
chattels: We are all known to some extent at any age by the company that we keep, eh ?
BOBBY: the true lessons never change
chattels: I have been associated now for four years with internet dinarians, my old friends wonder about me for sure :)
BOBBY: lol...... you should meet some of mine lol
BOBBY: not a bad weekend as far as progress
chattels: As Ron White says, I am ready to party with my news friends in Palm Beach :)
chattels: http://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii8rC6CPCvM
BOBBY: Chattels.... when life gives you lemons, find someone with vodka...... Mr Ron White. lol
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... on that note, you have a good night and i will talk to you tomorrow, take care sir
Donnie: Parliament will vote tomorrow on the draft of the National Guard with the second reading of the anti-terrorism law
Donnie: 2015/8/29 23:05 [Baghdad-where] hold the House of Representatives, its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law.
It includes the agenda, according to a statement of the Council "vote on the draft National Guard Law, and discuss the subject of suspicious activities in support of the Daash, and discuss the issue of balances displaced people in banks, and the second reading of the draft law on ratification of the Republic of Iraq on the Statute of the Council of the Arab Peace and Security Act." http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ItZpsN
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
chattels: " ............... the political and economic reforms launched by the federal government and approved by parliament need some time to show results on the Iraqi economy."
chattels: " ........... will have significant effects on the provision of liquidity to the Iraqi government, especially during the end of this year and the beginning of 2016, ......... "
chattels: MP confirmed for the citizen Bloc Layla al-Khafaji, said that "the vote on the law of parties is an achievement of the parliament because it represents a package of reforms."
Said al-Khafaji, in a press statement that "the law of parties representing the reforms package and regulates the functioning of political parties in terms of its activities and its relationship with other countries and the issue of its founding and linking them to the Department of party affairs.
chattels: "She added that" the law also identified the issue of subsidies from the state where you must rely on the participation of two sessions constituencies The law also banned on the parties to exercise their activities and interference in other countries.
chattels: "She continued that" the law impose penalties on parties that are contrary to the provisions of this law, and gave notice a year to adapt to the law to determine its activities, "asserting that" the law will encourage political pluralism in the country and served by a lot. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1LKs98o
chattels: " .......... gave notice a year to adapt to the law to determine its activities, ......... "
chattels: The notion that reforms, even if enacted and implemented, will immediately impact upon the Iraqi economy or the political process seems fanciful to me.
chattels: All reforms taken together do not remove or cure a culture of corruption, the presence of DAESH nor do they increase the price of oil which is still essential to close the extraordinary budget shortfall.
chattels: There is reason to be hopeful for a new era in Iraq, but patience is required, IMO.
chattels: I read today a good description of the reforms as " nascent " which is defined as " just coming into existence and beginning to display signs of future potential ' and synonymous with " just beginning, budding, developing, growing, embryonic, incipient, young, fledgling, evolving, emergent, dawning, burgeoning ".
] chattels: Rafidain Bank announced the recovery of tens of billions of dinars were leaked to the public market and are operated by some quarters and crooked ways. The general director of the bank on behalf of Kamal al-Hassani in a press statement that many of the financial manipulations and abuses have been exposed. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1hojTgO
chattels: Central Commission for compensation for those affected by the military operations and military mistakes and terrorist operations in the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers announced that the Subcommittee in the province of Kirkuk and distributed more than / 3 / billion dinars between those affected by the terror victims citizens. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LKsacv...
http://ift.tt/1LKsasJ
chattels: The Iraqi constitution requires that victims of terrorism be compensated by the GOI thus the costs of the war with DAESH is not limited to the military, but includes reparation to civilians. None of the foregoing is budgeted that I am aware of therefore adding to the deficit and draining reserves.
chattels: To veil or not to veil: Iraqi women face scrutiny over their choices BAGHDAD — The Najaf Nationality Directorate, south of Baghdad, refused to grant a travel permit to civil activist and Iraqi citizen Intisar Alyawi al-Mayali July 5 because she appeared unveiled in the photo attached to her passport.
This incident sparked outrage and highlighted once again the conflict between secularists and the conservative current typified by Islamist groups. Civil activist Intisar Yassin commented on the incident to Al-Monitor, “Not granting an unveiled woman a passport is a violation of human rights by a staff member who ignores the law and constitution when processing the citizens’ files.”
One of the main conflicts between secularists and Islamists revolves around the civil and intellectual identity of Iraqi women.
There is an enormous contrast in stances on women’s rights in Iraq. Although secularists point out that the Iraqi Constitution guarantees the civil rights of all citizens, Islamists have no trouble finding religious, social and moral pretexts to justify their viewpoint and actions.
This conflict clearly reveals the political balance of power tipping to the Islamists’ side. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1PFtqva
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... good to see you sir :smile:
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› good evening friend :)
chattels: Iraq is a nation at war with itself and DAESH.
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... sums it up in one sentence
chattels: " A house divided against itself cannot stand." - A. Lincoln
BOBBY: at least there making some progress
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Yes.
chattels: But reform can be a dangerous dynamic.
chattels: Arguably reform is a " controlled revolution ".
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... that is true..... Abadi is pushing the rock up the proverbial hill
chattels: There is always the possibility that the impetus for reform exceeds the governments ability to control it.
chattels: Which is why adherence to the constitution and / or amendment of the constitution under the rule of law is paramount and on the minds of Barzani, Nujaify, Allawi, etc., IMO
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I hope that the rock does not roll back upon Abadi.
BOBBY: Chattels. .......... i believe they are covering there a $$es in laymens terms lol
chattels: The pundits that speak of reform as a foregone conclusion and as a mercurial and linear event are mistaken, IMO.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Perhaps :)
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... every inch of improvement come at a price over there
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› The human costs has been and will continue to be terrible.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› The " RV " is seen as a panacea for all that ails Iraq by many, but such thinking begs the question of which comes first, the proverbial chicken v. egg ?
BOBBY: Chattels. ........ it is not a cure all for the problems over there
chattels: Does security and stability in Iraq yield the completion of banking / monetary reform or does monetary reform yield stability and security in Iraq ? I think that it is the former.
chattels: I think that Shabbibi said as much.
BOBBY: Chattels. ......... i do agree ........ LJ has been saying it for a long time to....... its not a popular view
chattels: I am not speaking of ABSOLUTE security and stability, but RELATIVELY speaking.
BOBBY: there will always be some kind of division between the tribes
chattels: Democracy can be a messy business even for the established practitioners of it.
BOBBY: we prove that every day lol
chattels: What should we expect of a " teenage democracy " ?
BOBBY: like i told mine,be home by 10. lol
chattels: and beware of the company that you keep, eh ?
BOBBY: show me your friends and see who you are. ..... a tough lesson learned
chattels: We are all known to some extent at any age by the company that we keep, eh ?
BOBBY: the true lessons never change
chattels: I have been associated now for four years with internet dinarians, my old friends wonder about me for sure :)
BOBBY: lol...... you should meet some of mine lol
BOBBY: not a bad weekend as far as progress
chattels: As Ron White says, I am ready to party with my news friends in Palm Beach :)
chattels: http://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii8rC6CPCvM
BOBBY: Chattels.... when life gives you lemons, find someone with vodka...... Mr Ron White. lol
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... on that note, you have a good night and i will talk to you tomorrow, take care sir
Donnie: Parliament will vote tomorrow on the draft of the National Guard with the second reading of the anti-terrorism law
Donnie: 2015/8/29 23:05 [Baghdad-where] hold the House of Representatives, its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law.
It includes the agenda, according to a statement of the Council "vote on the draft National Guard Law, and discuss the subject of suspicious activities in support of the Daash, and discuss the issue of balances displaced people in banks, and the second reading of the draft law on ratification of the Republic of Iraq on the Statute of the Council of the Arab Peace and Security Act." http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ItZpsN
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
Donnie: its usual Sunday's vote and the reading of a number of draft laws, notably the National Guard Law. It includes the agenda, "vote on the draft National Guard Law"
Donnie: anyone ever tell them actions speak louder than words? stop talking about voting on the National Guard Law AND JUST DO IT!!!!!
Donnie: JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!!
Donnie: The agenda of the meeting No. (18) Sunday 30 August 2015
Donnie: Second: the vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (22 articles).
Donnie: Fifth: The second reading of the draft law on ratification of the Republic of Iraq on the Statute of the Council of the Arab Peace and Security Act. (Committee on Foreign Relations, the Committee on Defense and Security). (Article 2).
Donnie: Sixth, the second reading of the draft ratification of a partnership agreement for cultural, scientific and technical cooperation and for the development between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the French Republic Act. (Committee on Foreign Relations, the Committee on Culture and Information, the Commission on Higher Education and Scientific Research). (Article 2).
Donnie: Eleventh: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law. (Finance Committee, the Integrity Commission, the Commission on Security and Defence). (Article 57).
Donnie: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law.
Donnie: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law.
OOTW: DONNIE, I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION
Donnie: Large agenda for a Sunday... http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj...
http://ift.tt/1PFtpaL
Donnie: i feel sorry for the Iraqis suffering while these guys jerk-around with these laws, putting them up for vote over and over and over with the same result "postponed until ....."
OOTW: ME TOO
OOTW: REMINDER, HERE'S THIS LIST FROM THE CBI SITE
OOTW: Laws and regulations (in progress) Establish a project to ensure the company bank deposits. Controls the issuance of letters of guarantee. Instructions establishing branches of Arab and foreign banks and their capital. Help loan guarantee companies.
Islamic banking instructions (in the final stages of completion). Islamic law instruments. Central Bank Law
OOTW: www.cbi.iq/index.php http://ift.tt/1qeTCyZ
Donnie: JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!!
Donnie: The agenda of the meeting No. (18) Sunday 30 August 2015
Donnie: Second: the vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (22 articles).
Donnie: Fifth: The second reading of the draft law on ratification of the Republic of Iraq on the Statute of the Council of the Arab Peace and Security Act. (Committee on Foreign Relations, the Committee on Defense and Security). (Article 2).
Donnie: Sixth, the second reading of the draft ratification of a partnership agreement for cultural, scientific and technical cooperation and for the development between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the French Republic Act. (Committee on Foreign Relations, the Committee on Culture and Information, the Commission on Higher Education and Scientific Research). (Article 2).
Donnie: Eleventh: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law. (Finance Committee, the Integrity Commission, the Commission on Security and Defence). (Article 57).
Donnie: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law.
Donnie: The second reading of the draft anti-money laundering and terrorism financing law.
OOTW: DONNIE, I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION
Donnie: Large agenda for a Sunday... http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj...
http://ift.tt/1PFtpaL
Donnie: i feel sorry for the Iraqis suffering while these guys jerk-around with these laws, putting them up for vote over and over and over with the same result "postponed until ....."
OOTW: ME TOO
OOTW: REMINDER, HERE'S THIS LIST FROM THE CBI SITE
OOTW: Laws and regulations (in progress) Establish a project to ensure the company bank deposits. Controls the issuance of letters of guarantee. Instructions establishing branches of Arab and foreign banks and their capital. Help loan guarantee companies.
Islamic banking instructions (in the final stages of completion). Islamic law instruments. Central Bank Law
OOTW: www.cbi.iq/index.php http://ift.tt/1qeTCyZ
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