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Wealthwatch Afternoon Chat 8-28-15 Part 1 of 2
Donnie: so this vote didn't happen yesterday....
Donnie: Third: The vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (Article 22).
Donnie: why am I not surprised :(
Donnie: at least they voted on the "political parties law"
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Wealthwatch Afternoon Chat 8-28-15 Part 1 of 2
Donnie: so this vote didn't happen yesterday....
Donnie: Third: The vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (Article 22).
Donnie: why am I not surprised :(
Donnie: at least they voted on the "political parties law"
~~~
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1JwHFme... http://ift.tt/1dGvVtA
Donnie: There are the good Sheites (Abadi patriots) and the other side is the Maliki Sheites (Iranian backed). Yes –Maliki still holds much power and this is why he is still around.
There are also the Kurds and the Sunnis who seem to be joining Abadi by the thousands more and more each and every day as these reforms take shape. Everything is changing and the speed is now on warp drive. But kindly read what I have included below since it explains it all in more detail. Thanks. Piece of Article below:
Donnie: Al-Abadi was almost certainly Al-Maliki’s choice it the 2014 elections. Both belong to the pro-Iran Al-Dawa party, which is headed by Al-Maliki. The latter had hoped to continue to run things after he was appointed vice president. Even after his ouster he still controls 93 seats in the parliament.
But Al-Abadi soon realized that Iraq was on the brink of collapse as a result of sectarian divisions, rampant corruption, failing public services, poor relations between Irbil and Baghdad, ill-trained army and the looming threat by Daesh.
For him to rally the Iraqi people behind him he had to demolish Al-Maliki’s legacy of corruption and sectarianism. The public protests provided him with an opportunity.
But Al-Abadi must brace himself for a backlash, especially from influential behind-the-scene players. The question is can he carry out his reforms agenda to the end?
The fact that religious Shiite parties are divided may help him in the short run. He has the backing of Al Sistani and the charismatic cleric, Muqtada Al Sadr, among others.
But the biggest challenge will be to restructure the judiciary if his pledge to hunt down and prosecute corrupt officials is to be taken seriously. Al-Maliki is already fighting back.
He has important influence over the Shiite militias, the Popular Mobilization, who are supporting the army’s campaign to liberate Al-Ramadi and Fallujah in Al-Anbar province from Daesh militants.
The militias have been accused of committing atrocities against the Sunnis and are being led by Iranian advisers.
For Al-Abadi to succeed he must first win the confrontation between pro-Iran factions, under Al-Maliki, and the nationalist flank that is supported by the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council and the Sadri movement and backed by Shiite clerical authorities in Najaf.
The outcome of this showdown could determine the future and integrity of Iraq. Article Ends
Donnie: from MNT_GOAT http://ift.tt/1BNbnBC...
http://ift.tt/1JqfmEp
Donnie: That clears up some questions for me regarding the different sects in Iraq and how Abadi & Maliki can be from the same Shiites sect and be so different.
Donnie: in case you missed this connection:
Donnie: We know by passing the Parties law anyone alleged of criminal activity (or under investigation) can no longer hold office or receive immunity. This is HUGE for insuring the downturn of Maliki.
Donnie: READ EVERY WO..... no i'm not going to say that :)
Donnie: "This week the CBI is also telling us there is plans for a near future bond drive, that will be issued to raise capital for the economic crisis and try to balance the budget. Iraq needs funds in local currency and not in hard currency, so the central bank is preparing to launch bonds in local currency for sale in order to strengthen the local currency.
These are NOT international bonds but are to be sold within country only meaning “nationally” sold bonds. So don’t get carried away and put on your RV glasses as of yet."
Donnie: guess what XXX posted: " THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DINAR BACKED BONDS — HUGE HUGE NEWS – OBVIOUSLY RELIANT ON AN INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED CURRENCY "
Donnie: it's in the observer!
Donnie: So who's correct? International rate needed to sell these bonds or not because they will be sold in-country only????
Dianne777: i wouldnt call that totally international then
Donnie: Stay tuned! Time will tell.....
sczin11: ‹@Donnie› NOT
Donnie: I say NOT!!!!
sczin11: THE REPORT IN THE FORUM, NICE THREAD FROM YESTERDAY I BELIEVE,
CLEARLY POINTS OUT THE NEED FOR DINARS IN COUNTRY..
THEY ARE USING THE BONDS NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE LIQUIDITY, MORE IMPORTANT TO BUILD THEIR ON HAND, DINAR NOTES... THEY NEED DINAR, AS THAT IS HOW THEY WILL TRADE IN FUTURE
Donnie: when i read zeroday post in recaps it seemed so wrong to me but i just let it go like i do most guru posts. then today mnt goat says what I believed that i posted above.
sczin11: THEY DONT WANT TO PRINT MORE IN IRDER TO AVOID INFLATIONARY POSSIBILITIES..IT IS A GOOD THING
Donnie: hmmm.... if they changed the exchange rate they will get flooded with Dinar - IMO - lol
Doug_W: mine will go there Donnie
sczin11: REMEMBER, EXCHANGE RATE ONLY AFFECT OUT OF COUNTRY TRANSACTIONS..BESIDES DINARLAND, ARE THERE MAJOR COUNTRIES SPECULATING ON DINAR AS A MEANS OF MAKING PROFITS?
Doug_W: GM 11
sczin11: DOUGGIE GM
Doug_W: Speculate ..ya that's a good word
Doug_W: ♥♥♥ Stupid SPECULATIONS Anyhow ♥♥♥© ™® Pat pend.
Donnie: my out of country Dinar would fly real fast to Iraq at say 1 Dinar = $1... :)
Doug_W: amen dONNIE
Doug_W: POOF EVEN
Donnie: scheduled for tomorrow - Saturday:
Donnie: Third: The vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (Article 22).
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... http://ift.tt/1U9FNGq
Donnie: Let's pray they get this voted through on Saturday.
Donnie: Father in Heaven, If you feel it's time to pass this law please put a "smack down" on parliament tomorrow so they know you mean business. Amen
Donnie: :)
Doug_W: ‹@Donnie› waht s a "Smack down" ?
Donnie: ‹@Doug_W› smack them in the head - wake them up to reality - anything like that - God can choose to execute it as He see's fit. :)
MzDiva: Good Morning did I miss all the fun :silly: :silly: :silly:
dose: Lol yes God please do. This law will do away with maliki's private army
dose: ?
Doug_W: ?><
lonegunman: Haider Al-Abadi @HaiderAlAbadi 1m1 minute ago PM Al-Abadi issues a series of new measures to enhance social justice bit.ly/1KSjE5s bit.ly/1VilRyp bit.ly/1Ipt9ao
http://ift.tt/1NMQxWl
disciple7: c'mon Abadi just get it done..
disciple7: Abadi's been on a "justice" and "end corruption" kick for awhile now.. hopefully the parties law is in the very very near future..
lonegunman: ‹@disciple7› really !! c'mon
disciple7: ‹@lonegunman› hopefully.. imo I'd say its about due.. but this is Iraq we're talking about.
lonegunman: ‹@disciple7› your telling me !! they sure do like to talk themselves up ! thats for sure
disciple7: agreed
MichelleL: we rich yet?
MichelleL: i'm not "feeling it" guys.......
lonegunman: ‹@MichelleL› me either
MichelleL: ‹@lonegunman› another wet blanket ;)
lonegunman: ‹@MichelleL› so what of it ?? lol
Tootsie: Poppin in for a bit =- Good Day All
MichelleL: ‹@Tootsie› hello there young lady! wassup with you?
MichelleL: Tootsie, should we be trying to gather cash for a possible evacuation this year? Its been the furthest thing from my mind
Doug_W: where are U M ?
Doug_W: Texas coast as I recall
(For Entertainment):
Tootsie: in subdivision, not supposed to have farm animals. OK, on cul-de-sac, quiet ~ so bought 13 chicks from farm place in tomball, one I kept sayin that is rooster, Hub said no ~ - well incubated them, fenced off side yard, build a hutch and , yes, twas a rooster, so took him to the pig famer down the road. Present.
MichelleL: ‹@Doug_W› yup, galveston
MichelleL: ROFL Tootsie
Doug_W: what NO early AM Crowing?
Doug_W: if they didn't crow here Id wake up thinking the world had ended lol
Tootsie: raised them, fresh eggs daily~ - this is funny ~ garage sale goin on, man at end of block, new boat in garage, came rang door bell, said some of your chickens are in my garage.
MichelleL: Doug, some of us wake before the roosters ;)
Tootsie: no hens don't crow
MichelleL: lol
Doug_W: I know toots >>>Farm boy
Tootsie: anyway, he had tried to chase them out and , of course, they flew up to the top of boat, and pooped on it - that is when he came down. I had to laugh, they sauntered all the way down the block and not a soul noticed. Anyway, Daughter & I went down and carried them home HAHA, they were pets to us , all had names.
MichelleL: i stayed overnight in a chicken farm when I was a very little girl, probably 50-55 years ago lol and all I remember was the strings on the doorknobs and that it was the smelliest place I had ever been at
Tootsie: I thought soo funny that not one person saw them going
MichelleL: lol Tootsie
Donnie: There are the good Sheites (Abadi patriots) and the other side is the Maliki Sheites (Iranian backed). Yes –Maliki still holds much power and this is why he is still around.
There are also the Kurds and the Sunnis who seem to be joining Abadi by the thousands more and more each and every day as these reforms take shape. Everything is changing and the speed is now on warp drive. But kindly read what I have included below since it explains it all in more detail. Thanks. Piece of Article below:
Donnie: Al-Abadi was almost certainly Al-Maliki’s choice it the 2014 elections. Both belong to the pro-Iran Al-Dawa party, which is headed by Al-Maliki. The latter had hoped to continue to run things after he was appointed vice president. Even after his ouster he still controls 93 seats in the parliament.
But Al-Abadi soon realized that Iraq was on the brink of collapse as a result of sectarian divisions, rampant corruption, failing public services, poor relations between Irbil and Baghdad, ill-trained army and the looming threat by Daesh.
For him to rally the Iraqi people behind him he had to demolish Al-Maliki’s legacy of corruption and sectarianism. The public protests provided him with an opportunity.
But Al-Abadi must brace himself for a backlash, especially from influential behind-the-scene players. The question is can he carry out his reforms agenda to the end?
The fact that religious Shiite parties are divided may help him in the short run. He has the backing of Al Sistani and the charismatic cleric, Muqtada Al Sadr, among others.
But the biggest challenge will be to restructure the judiciary if his pledge to hunt down and prosecute corrupt officials is to be taken seriously. Al-Maliki is already fighting back.
He has important influence over the Shiite militias, the Popular Mobilization, who are supporting the army’s campaign to liberate Al-Ramadi and Fallujah in Al-Anbar province from Daesh militants.
The militias have been accused of committing atrocities against the Sunnis and are being led by Iranian advisers.
For Al-Abadi to succeed he must first win the confrontation between pro-Iran factions, under Al-Maliki, and the nationalist flank that is supported by the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council and the Sadri movement and backed by Shiite clerical authorities in Najaf.
The outcome of this showdown could determine the future and integrity of Iraq. Article Ends
Donnie: from MNT_GOAT http://ift.tt/1BNbnBC...
http://ift.tt/1JqfmEp
Donnie: That clears up some questions for me regarding the different sects in Iraq and how Abadi & Maliki can be from the same Shiites sect and be so different.
Donnie: in case you missed this connection:
Donnie: We know by passing the Parties law anyone alleged of criminal activity (or under investigation) can no longer hold office or receive immunity. This is HUGE for insuring the downturn of Maliki.
Donnie: READ EVERY WO..... no i'm not going to say that :)
Donnie: "This week the CBI is also telling us there is plans for a near future bond drive, that will be issued to raise capital for the economic crisis and try to balance the budget. Iraq needs funds in local currency and not in hard currency, so the central bank is preparing to launch bonds in local currency for sale in order to strengthen the local currency.
These are NOT international bonds but are to be sold within country only meaning “nationally” sold bonds. So don’t get carried away and put on your RV glasses as of yet."
Donnie: guess what XXX posted: " THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DINAR BACKED BONDS — HUGE HUGE NEWS – OBVIOUSLY RELIANT ON AN INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED CURRENCY "
Donnie: it's in the observer!
Donnie: So who's correct? International rate needed to sell these bonds or not because they will be sold in-country only????
Dianne777: i wouldnt call that totally international then
Donnie: Stay tuned! Time will tell.....
sczin11: ‹@Donnie› NOT
Donnie: I say NOT!!!!
sczin11: THE REPORT IN THE FORUM, NICE THREAD FROM YESTERDAY I BELIEVE,
CLEARLY POINTS OUT THE NEED FOR DINARS IN COUNTRY..
THEY ARE USING THE BONDS NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE LIQUIDITY, MORE IMPORTANT TO BUILD THEIR ON HAND, DINAR NOTES... THEY NEED DINAR, AS THAT IS HOW THEY WILL TRADE IN FUTURE
Donnie: when i read zeroday post in recaps it seemed so wrong to me but i just let it go like i do most guru posts. then today mnt goat says what I believed that i posted above.
sczin11: THEY DONT WANT TO PRINT MORE IN IRDER TO AVOID INFLATIONARY POSSIBILITIES..IT IS A GOOD THING
Donnie: hmmm.... if they changed the exchange rate they will get flooded with Dinar - IMO - lol
Doug_W: mine will go there Donnie
sczin11: REMEMBER, EXCHANGE RATE ONLY AFFECT OUT OF COUNTRY TRANSACTIONS..BESIDES DINARLAND, ARE THERE MAJOR COUNTRIES SPECULATING ON DINAR AS A MEANS OF MAKING PROFITS?
Doug_W: GM 11
sczin11: DOUGGIE GM
Doug_W: Speculate ..ya that's a good word
Doug_W: ♥♥♥ Stupid SPECULATIONS Anyhow ♥♥♥© ™® Pat pend.
Donnie: my out of country Dinar would fly real fast to Iraq at say 1 Dinar = $1... :)
Doug_W: amen dONNIE
Doug_W: POOF EVEN
Donnie: scheduled for tomorrow - Saturday:
Donnie: Third: The vote on the draft law of the National Guard. (Security and Defense Committee, the Legal Committee), (Article 22).
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... http://ift.tt/1U9FNGq
Donnie: Let's pray they get this voted through on Saturday.
Donnie: Father in Heaven, If you feel it's time to pass this law please put a "smack down" on parliament tomorrow so they know you mean business. Amen
Donnie: :)
Doug_W: ‹@Donnie› waht s a "Smack down" ?
Donnie: ‹@Doug_W› smack them in the head - wake them up to reality - anything like that - God can choose to execute it as He see's fit. :)
MzDiva: Good Morning did I miss all the fun :silly: :silly: :silly:
dose: Lol yes God please do. This law will do away with maliki's private army
dose: ?
Doug_W: ?><
lonegunman: Haider Al-Abadi @HaiderAlAbadi 1m1 minute ago PM Al-Abadi issues a series of new measures to enhance social justice bit.ly/1KSjE5s bit.ly/1VilRyp bit.ly/1Ipt9ao
http://ift.tt/1NMQxWl
disciple7: c'mon Abadi just get it done..
disciple7: Abadi's been on a "justice" and "end corruption" kick for awhile now.. hopefully the parties law is in the very very near future..
lonegunman: ‹@disciple7› really !! c'mon
disciple7: ‹@lonegunman› hopefully.. imo I'd say its about due.. but this is Iraq we're talking about.
lonegunman: ‹@disciple7› your telling me !! they sure do like to talk themselves up ! thats for sure
disciple7: agreed
MichelleL: we rich yet?
MichelleL: i'm not "feeling it" guys.......
lonegunman: ‹@MichelleL› me either
MichelleL: ‹@lonegunman› another wet blanket ;)
lonegunman: ‹@MichelleL› so what of it ?? lol
Tootsie: Poppin in for a bit =- Good Day All
MichelleL: ‹@Tootsie› hello there young lady! wassup with you?
MichelleL: Tootsie, should we be trying to gather cash for a possible evacuation this year? Its been the furthest thing from my mind
Doug_W: where are U M ?
Doug_W: Texas coast as I recall
(For Entertainment):
Tootsie: in subdivision, not supposed to have farm animals. OK, on cul-de-sac, quiet ~ so bought 13 chicks from farm place in tomball, one I kept sayin that is rooster, Hub said no ~ - well incubated them, fenced off side yard, build a hutch and , yes, twas a rooster, so took him to the pig famer down the road. Present.
MichelleL: ‹@Doug_W› yup, galveston
MichelleL: ROFL Tootsie
Doug_W: what NO early AM Crowing?
Doug_W: if they didn't crow here Id wake up thinking the world had ended lol
Tootsie: raised them, fresh eggs daily~ - this is funny ~ garage sale goin on, man at end of block, new boat in garage, came rang door bell, said some of your chickens are in my garage.
MichelleL: Doug, some of us wake before the roosters ;)
Tootsie: no hens don't crow
MichelleL: lol
Doug_W: I know toots >>>Farm boy
Tootsie: anyway, he had tried to chase them out and , of course, they flew up to the top of boat, and pooped on it - that is when he came down. I had to laugh, they sauntered all the way down the block and not a soul noticed. Anyway, Daughter & I went down and carried them home HAHA, they were pets to us , all had names.
MichelleL: i stayed overnight in a chicken farm when I was a very little girl, probably 50-55 years ago lol and all I remember was the strings on the doorknobs and that it was the smelliest place I had ever been at
Tootsie: I thought soo funny that not one person saw them going
MichelleL: lol Tootsie
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› oh man, has to be cleaned regularly - ours just had the run of the yard, then they went to bed in hutch
MichelleL: Tootsie, needless to say, I never voluntarily went back to visit that place lol
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› I have been wondering also ~ again, my freezer is full, thnk I may cut back on that, Sept is the worst month, and the waters are sooo warm. Scary (storm season)
Tootsie: ‹@lonegunman› was wondering if you were around
Tootsie: I should have thought before went out and stocked up on stuff - ahh well
MichelleL: ‹@Tootsie› sort of up against the wall now, but will try and get a few things together - need some good plastic bins for papers too - i've waited too long most likely
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› me also!
MichelleL: stocking up isn't bad, provided you're stuck at home, its the evacuations that kill me
MichelleL: maybe i'll take a run into office depot tonight, see if there are any back to school sales ;)
Tootsie: well, I don't want to loose the stuff in freezer, did last time. mucho meat
MichelleL: Tootsie, Ike I lost the brand new fridge/freezer and around 300 bucks worth of omaha steaks - never again needless to say
MichelleL: but the fish in the freezer would stink pretty badly if the electric is off for 8 hours
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› since I am alone, I shop for 1 mo ~ then make up meals as I go, and separate and freeze ~ most things ,y'know. Make up my burger patties, and stuff and freeze so can just pop out
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› ohh yes!!!!
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MichelleL: Tootsie, needless to say, I never voluntarily went back to visit that place lol
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› I have been wondering also ~ again, my freezer is full, thnk I may cut back on that, Sept is the worst month, and the waters are sooo warm. Scary (storm season)
Tootsie: ‹@lonegunman› was wondering if you were around
Tootsie: I should have thought before went out and stocked up on stuff - ahh well
MichelleL: ‹@Tootsie› sort of up against the wall now, but will try and get a few things together - need some good plastic bins for papers too - i've waited too long most likely
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› me also!
MichelleL: stocking up isn't bad, provided you're stuck at home, its the evacuations that kill me
MichelleL: maybe i'll take a run into office depot tonight, see if there are any back to school sales ;)
Tootsie: well, I don't want to loose the stuff in freezer, did last time. mucho meat
MichelleL: Tootsie, Ike I lost the brand new fridge/freezer and around 300 bucks worth of omaha steaks - never again needless to say
MichelleL: but the fish in the freezer would stink pretty badly if the electric is off for 8 hours
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› since I am alone, I shop for 1 mo ~ then make up meals as I go, and separate and freeze ~ most things ,y'know. Make up my burger patties, and stuff and freeze so can just pop out
Tootsie: ‹@MichelleL› ohh yes!!!!
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