TNT:
Uni345ty: Iko how does 1115 convert to American dollars
Iko Ward: Uni, it's not about converting to dollars yet, it's about the trend toward greater value. What is important is Forex no longer reverts back to the stock CBI value of 1166. They have decided the movement stands on its own.
Locofelipe: IKO- and in my opinion.... that standing alone is huge
Sallypuff: IKO - do you believe the market dump today will help force the RV sonner? what are your odds we will see the RV by Monday, the 24th?
Iko Ward: Sally, if China goes on the warpath I'd say the 24th is a possibility. If they hold off again, can't say.
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Uni345ty: Iko how does 1115 convert to American dollars
Iko Ward: Uni, it's not about converting to dollars yet, it's about the trend toward greater value. What is important is Forex no longer reverts back to the stock CBI value of 1166. They have decided the movement stands on its own.
Locofelipe: IKO- and in my opinion.... that standing alone is huge
Sallypuff: IKO - do you believe the market dump today will help force the RV sonner? what are your odds we will see the RV by Monday, the 24th?
Iko Ward: Sally, if China goes on the warpath I'd say the 24th is a possibility. If they hold off again, can't say.
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Uni345ty: Well then .......... If that is what it takes ..... Let the war began
Iko Ward: Uni, as Dinarians we want China making trouble. We want the markets in trouble. We want gold to shoot through the roof and oil too. We want everything that benefits the 1% and screws the majority...short term. Then we want to show the world what compassion, fair dealing and honesty can do for all. Kinda crazy, huh? Revolution is like that.
June1: IKO - so much is being done and pasted - why - what - when - how long hoping this plan that China has started!! works!! what is your thoughts please??
Iko Ward: June, remember Tony's prediction of chaos? We're in it.
DKenner: IKO we are in uncharted waters...we have inflation and deflation at the same time
Drakechap: iko, does it have to wait to the 24th? people were shooting for it to go today fo u think we still may have a shot before the 24th
Iko ward: Drake, it can go in the next five minutes. As Gandhi once said, everybody relax, nothing is under control.
Goodsnag: Iko, yes, agreed. A road less travelled, for sure.
Ivantulafitov: anybody read the HCL update.... allegedly the last thing that needs checking off the list? Millionday : [Is there any news on the HCL yet?] THE HCL WAS ANNOUNCED TO BE VERY EASY DUE TO ITS CONSTITUTIONAL AND POLITICAL AGREEMENT PARALLEL...IT IS IN PARLIAMENT AND I BELIEVE READ TWICE -- THIS LEAVES VOTE."
LAS :Bruce on The Big Call - China devalued again; dow plumets; Kazakhstan depegs from the dollar; other nations will follow; right before RV; sounds like a GCR; all lining up; it's Christmas eve and I am excited; all I going to say.
Rrrr: We have met the enemy and it is us. When The Power of Love Overcomes The Love of Power There Will Be Peace. We are on the threshold of a Global Event that could level the playing field by raising the standard of living of under privileged nations. Keep the faith. Know that things happen when the time is right. When everything is perfect, that right time shows up. And it too shall be perfect.
Iko Ward: Uni, as Dinarians we want China making trouble. We want the markets in trouble. We want gold to shoot through the roof and oil too. We want everything that benefits the 1% and screws the majority...short term. Then we want to show the world what compassion, fair dealing and honesty can do for all. Kinda crazy, huh? Revolution is like that.
June1: IKO - so much is being done and pasted - why - what - when - how long hoping this plan that China has started!! works!! what is your thoughts please??
Iko Ward: June, remember Tony's prediction of chaos? We're in it.
DKenner: IKO we are in uncharted waters...we have inflation and deflation at the same time
Drakechap: iko, does it have to wait to the 24th? people were shooting for it to go today fo u think we still may have a shot before the 24th
Iko ward: Drake, it can go in the next five minutes. As Gandhi once said, everybody relax, nothing is under control.
Goodsnag: Iko, yes, agreed. A road less travelled, for sure.
Ivantulafitov: anybody read the HCL update.... allegedly the last thing that needs checking off the list? Millionday : [Is there any news on the HCL yet?] THE HCL WAS ANNOUNCED TO BE VERY EASY DUE TO ITS CONSTITUTIONAL AND POLITICAL AGREEMENT PARALLEL...IT IS IN PARLIAMENT AND I BELIEVE READ TWICE -- THIS LEAVES VOTE."
LAS :Bruce on The Big Call - China devalued again; dow plumets; Kazakhstan depegs from the dollar; other nations will follow; right before RV; sounds like a GCR; all lining up; it's Christmas eve and I am excited; all I going to say.
Rrrr: We have met the enemy and it is us. When The Power of Love Overcomes The Love of Power There Will Be Peace. We are on the threshold of a Global Event that could level the playing field by raising the standard of living of under privileged nations. Keep the faith. Know that things happen when the time is right. When everything is perfect, that right time shows up. And it too shall be perfect.
Greatly Blessed: Dow Plunges Amidst Fears Of Global Slow Down
The global rout started in China.
The global rout started in China.
NEW YORK (AP) — The U.S. stock market endured its worst performance in 18 months on Thursday, driven lower by another slump in Chinese shares and heavy selling by technical traders.
The global rout started in China, where sharp declines in energy and property stocks pushed the Shanghai Composite down more than 3 percent. That selling soon spread to European and U.S. markets, where the Standard & Poor's 500 index moved further below a closely watched trading level.
Investors, facing screens full of red, retreated to their usual places of safety: bonds, gold and cash.
"The emerging markets really got slammed overnight and that quickly spread to the rest of the world," said J.J. Kinahan, chief strategist at TD Ameritrade.
The Dow Jones industrial average plunged 358.04 points, or 2.1 percent, to 16,990.69. The S&P 500 dropped 43.88 points, or 2.1 percent, to 2,035.73 and the Nasdaq composite lost 141.56 points, or 2.8 percent, to 4,877.49.
It was the biggest percentage decline for the Dow and S&P 500 since February 2014. The blue chip index is now at its lowest level since October 2014.
Buyers of stocks were few and far between. Selling outweighed buying by a ratio of more than eight to one in heavy trading. Still, even with the sell-off, the S&P 500 was down just 4.5 percent from its record close of 2,130.82 on May 21.
As the selling picked up Thursday, investors moved money to traditional havens in times of uncertainty.
Gold rose $25.30, or 2.2 percent, to $1,153.20 an ounce, the metal's best day since April. Demand for ultra-safe U.S. government bonds rose, pulling down the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note to 2.07 percent from 2.13 late Wednesday. The 10-year's yield stood at 2.19 percent only two days before, and its decline since then represents a major decline.
Worries over China, the world's second-largest economy, spurred Thursday's losses. The Shanghai Composite Index dropped 3.4 percent. Chinese shares have had a wild ride this week and that has raised questions about Beijing's ability to stabilize the market and the devaluation of that nation's currency.
The move has caused other countries to devalue their own currencies, notably oil-rich Kazakhstan and the manufacturing hub of Vietnam.
Strategists and traders, noting the lack of major U.S. economic news on Thursday, said the drop in stocks was also likely tied to programmed selling, which came after the S&P 500 moved below one of its most closely watched indicators, a 200-day moving average.
While many investors buy and sell stocks based on a company's business outlook, there is a different class of trader who relies on such technical indicators to make investment decisions.
"I see this drop as likely because we crossed the 200-day moving average, and that's causing us to have further selling," said Scott Wren, chief global equity strategist at the Wells Fargo Investment Institute.
Media stocks were hit particularly hard. Walt Disney shares fell $6.43, or 6 percent, to $100.02. Analysts are concerned that viewers are moving away from cable, which could hurt lucrative Disney properties such as ESPN.
Viacom, owner of CBS, fell 6 percent as well while Twenty-First Century Fox slipped 4 percent.
The year's biggest winners also were hit hard, possibly a sign that investors feel the seven-year bull market for stocks might be slowing down. Netflix, which is up about 130 percent since January, fell 8 percent. Gilead Sciences dipped 3 percent and Google declined 2 percent.
The price of benchmark U.S. oil rose slightly but remains near its low point of March 2009. U.S. crude rose 34 cents to $41.14 in New York. Brent crude, a benchmark for international oils used by many U.S. refineries, fell 54 cents to $46.62 in London.
In other futures trading, wholesale gasoline fell 2.4 cents to close at $1.535 a gallon. Heating oil fell 2.2 cents to close at $1.496 a gallon. Natural gas rose 3.9 cents to close at $2.755 per 1,000 cubic feet.
In metals, silver rose 34 cents to $15.52 an ounce and copper rose 4 cents to $2.32 a pound.
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The global rout started in China, where sharp declines in energy and property stocks pushed the Shanghai Composite down more than 3 percent. That selling soon spread to European and U.S. markets, where the Standard & Poor's 500 index moved further below a closely watched trading level.
Investors, facing screens full of red, retreated to their usual places of safety: bonds, gold and cash.
"The emerging markets really got slammed overnight and that quickly spread to the rest of the world," said J.J. Kinahan, chief strategist at TD Ameritrade.
The Dow Jones industrial average plunged 358.04 points, or 2.1 percent, to 16,990.69. The S&P 500 dropped 43.88 points, or 2.1 percent, to 2,035.73 and the Nasdaq composite lost 141.56 points, or 2.8 percent, to 4,877.49.
It was the biggest percentage decline for the Dow and S&P 500 since February 2014. The blue chip index is now at its lowest level since October 2014.
Buyers of stocks were few and far between. Selling outweighed buying by a ratio of more than eight to one in heavy trading. Still, even with the sell-off, the S&P 500 was down just 4.5 percent from its record close of 2,130.82 on May 21.
As the selling picked up Thursday, investors moved money to traditional havens in times of uncertainty.
Gold rose $25.30, or 2.2 percent, to $1,153.20 an ounce, the metal's best day since April. Demand for ultra-safe U.S. government bonds rose, pulling down the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note to 2.07 percent from 2.13 late Wednesday. The 10-year's yield stood at 2.19 percent only two days before, and its decline since then represents a major decline.
Worries over China, the world's second-largest economy, spurred Thursday's losses. The Shanghai Composite Index dropped 3.4 percent. Chinese shares have had a wild ride this week and that has raised questions about Beijing's ability to stabilize the market and the devaluation of that nation's currency.
The move has caused other countries to devalue their own currencies, notably oil-rich Kazakhstan and the manufacturing hub of Vietnam.
Strategists and traders, noting the lack of major U.S. economic news on Thursday, said the drop in stocks was also likely tied to programmed selling, which came after the S&P 500 moved below one of its most closely watched indicators, a 200-day moving average.
While many investors buy and sell stocks based on a company's business outlook, there is a different class of trader who relies on such technical indicators to make investment decisions.
"I see this drop as likely because we crossed the 200-day moving average, and that's causing us to have further selling," said Scott Wren, chief global equity strategist at the Wells Fargo Investment Institute.
Media stocks were hit particularly hard. Walt Disney shares fell $6.43, or 6 percent, to $100.02. Analysts are concerned that viewers are moving away from cable, which could hurt lucrative Disney properties such as ESPN.
Viacom, owner of CBS, fell 6 percent as well while Twenty-First Century Fox slipped 4 percent.
The year's biggest winners also were hit hard, possibly a sign that investors feel the seven-year bull market for stocks might be slowing down. Netflix, which is up about 130 percent since January, fell 8 percent. Gilead Sciences dipped 3 percent and Google declined 2 percent.
The price of benchmark U.S. oil rose slightly but remains near its low point of March 2009. U.S. crude rose 34 cents to $41.14 in New York. Brent crude, a benchmark for international oils used by many U.S. refineries, fell 54 cents to $46.62 in London.
In other futures trading, wholesale gasoline fell 2.4 cents to close at $1.535 a gallon. Heating oil fell 2.2 cents to close at $1.496 a gallon. Natural gas rose 3.9 cents to close at $2.755 per 1,000 cubic feet.
In metals, silver rose 34 cents to $15.52 an ounce and copper rose 4 cents to $2.32 a pound.
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