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Sunday, September 6, 2015

My Ladies and Friends Sunday Afternoon Chat: "Bonds and More"

Thanks My Ladies for letting us share from your private chatroom

Princess DD
: Agency US: Iraqi investment bonds "weak"  LINK

MVL:
  I'm going to be a contrarian here, and say that whoever rates Iraqi bonds as "weak", is going to be on the wrong side of the trade when the rubber hits the road. Iraqi bonds, Iranian bonds, SA bonds, you name it, and that includes bonds originating in the Pacific Rim, me want them!

Princess DD: i never understand why people would want to buy their bonds when they can buy their currency for more bang for their buck.

MY LADIES:
  ALRIGHT THE BONDS ARE GOING TO BE 15 YEARS RIGHT??

MY LADIES: AND THE RATE WILL PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 3-5 % COMPOUNDING OVER 15 YEARS. RIGHT??
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THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOLD IN 2500, 5000, 50,000 AND 100,000 DENOMINATIONS RIGHT?

SO YOU'RE TYPICAL BOND BUYERS WILL HOLD THESE BONDS WHICH ARE BELIEVE IT OR NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN CURRENCY AND ADD THEM TO THEIR PORTFOLIOS AND AT THE SAME TIME ADD THEM TO THEIR BALANCE SHEET ALONG WITH OTHER BONDS THEY MAY HAVE.

MY LADIES: THEY WILL HAVE VALUE IMMEDIATELY WHEREAS THE CURRENCY DOES NOT.

MY LADIES: ALSO BOND INVESTORS HAVE A VERY PARTICULAR APPETITE AND DO NOT LOOK AT CURRENCY AS AN INVESTMENT.

BONDS CAN BE SWAPPED AND TRADED AND TRADED AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THE "PAPER" MARKET.

PrincessDD; 
oh ok that makes sense. Thanks Mary.

MY LADIES:  WE AS DINAR HOLDERS WILL BE MADE WEALTHY. BUT BOND INVESTORS AND PEOPLE OF GREAT WEALTH ALREADY LOOK AT IRAQI BONDS AS ANOTHER PAGE IN THE PORTFOLIO

PrincessDD:
  yes those are more long term investments right?

MY LADIES:  YES 15 YEARS USUALLY

AND YOU KNOW PRINCESS YOU CAN NOT HOLD HARD FOREIGN CURRENCY ON YOUR BALANCE SHEET EITHER.

REMEMBER HARD CURRENCY NEEDS TO BE DEPOSITED AS WHAT??? USD ...RIGHT?

NOW I'M SURE CURRENCY TRADERS WILL BUY DIGITAL PAIRS OF THE DINAR WHEN IT START TRADING..

BUT FOR NOW WITH NOT MUCH VALUE AND NO WAY TO CONVERT THIS DOES NOT MAKE THE DINAR APPEALING TO BOND INVESTORS...THE BONDS WILL YIELD THEM MUCH MORE MONEY.

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PrincessDD:
  Did you see that Iraq is talking about the electronic payments?

PrincessDD;  Questioning successfully "electronic payment in private banks and specialist sees a move to release it from the" totalitarian regime "   LINK

PrincessDD:  Iran seeks to raise trade with Iraq to $ 20 billion   LINK

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Princess DD: Yuan devaluation, Fed hike transient; real economy matters: FM Arun Jaitley http://ift.tt/1QiF14j

Princess DD: China FinMin: Growth of about 7% is the new normal http://ift.tt/1EKJH1A

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Princess DD: China's Stock-Market Rout Is Almost Over, Says PBOC Governor http://ift.tt/1EJ0Zfx

Princess DD: China emphasises stability at G20, fiscal spending quickens

China's efforts, including the central bank channelling liquidity into the market, averted a precipitous slide and systemic risks, says People's Bank of China Governor Zhou Xiaochuan. http://ift.tt/1QiEXSf

Princess DD: IMF asks G20 nations to take urgent action for growth Christine Lagarde said the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors meeting has taken place at a time of renewed uncertainty for the global economy amidst rising financial market volatility, declining commodity prices, depreciating currencies in some countries, and China's growth transition. Read more at: http://ift.tt/1EKJH1C

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Princess DD: G20 expresses disappointment over delay in IMF quota reform The proposed quota reforms at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which would give greater say to the countries, including India, has been pending for quite some time. Read more at: http://ift.tt/1QiEXSh

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Princess DD: China just gave its economic forecast at G20  Read more: http://ift.tt/1EKJHhU

Princess DD: IMF's Lagarde says Fed must be sure of jobs and prices before moving http://ift.tt/1QiEXSj

Princess DD: Currency devaluation, Fed hike are transient: Arun Jaitley

Jaitley says India is on a ‘sound footing’ as manufacturing and services sectors are picking up and the govt is focused on strengthening real economy http://ift.tt/1EKJIlZ

Princess DD: New numbering system in currency notes to check counterfeiting

Besides, the government has approved seven new security features, details of which are not yet known, in the bank notes, the sources said.

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Princess DD: Khamenei: Nuclear deal will collapse if sanctions are not lifted http://ift.tt/1PQ21qz


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