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Wealthwatch Member Evening Chat 9-5-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: ‹@Oneness› Sorry, I am missing something about your thinking.
Oneness: are the same forces that say iraq can not use the iraqi dinar for international trade until such time as we think it is best
Tootsie: Coalition Provisional Authority was a transitional gov't , caretaker so to speak. I don't think the could have just insisted that Iraq give up its currency and use only dollars in Iraq?
BOBBY: Oneness.. i would have to disagree with you, just my opinion Oneness.. i will respect yours
Tootsie: I am not an authority on the CPA, have read bits and pieces {enough to be dangerous LOL}
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Wealthwatch Member Evening Chat 9-5-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: ‹@Oneness› Sorry, I am missing something about your thinking.
Oneness: are the same forces that say iraq can not use the iraqi dinar for international trade until such time as we think it is best
Tootsie: Coalition Provisional Authority was a transitional gov't , caretaker so to speak. I don't think the could have just insisted that Iraq give up its currency and use only dollars in Iraq?
BOBBY: Oneness.. i would have to disagree with you, just my opinion Oneness.. i will respect yours
Tootsie: I am not an authority on the CPA, have read bits and pieces {enough to be dangerous LOL}
~~~
chattels: Between October 15, 2003, and January 15, 2004, the Coalition Provisional Authority issued new Iraqi dinar coins and notes, with the notes printed by De La Rue using modern anti-forgery techniques to "create a single unified currency that is used throughout all of Iraq and will also make money more convenient to use in people’s everyday lives".[3]
Old banknotes were exchanged for new at a one-to-one rate, except for the Swiss dinars, which were exchanged at a rate of 150 new dinars for one Swiss dinar. Since Iraq has few exports other than oil, which is sold in dollars, there is little demand for Dinars and they remain in "exotic" status.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1Ldqd2u; http://ift.tt/1M3V9Ig
Tootsie: I don't think so, or feel so - there are requirements to be met prior to becoming a legal tender.
Oneness: perhaps history will show what a huge mistake that was
BOBBY: Chattels..... hence the speculation
Oneness: how much was lost not being able to trade internationally
Tootsie: K, have doggie day care to tend to, neighbors away for day - she is a sweet dog, -~~ Enjoy your evening all ~~ I put this joke out a few years back, but funny anyway
Tootsie: Reaching the end of a job interview, the Human Resources Officer asks a young engineer fresh out of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, "And what starting salary are you looking for?" The engineer replies, "In the region of $125,000 a year, depending on the benefits package."
The interviewer inquires, "Well, what would you say to a package of five weeks vacation, 14 paid holidays, full medical and dental, company matching retirement fund to 50% of salary, and a company car leased every two years, say, a red Corvette?" The engineer sits up straight and says, "Wow! Are you kidding?" The interviewer replies, "Yeah, but you started it."
Tootsie: poof
chattels: This is a long shot under the best of circumstances and circumstances are not good.
BOBBY: Oneness....... i am sure the amount is staggering. ........ as a result of the former Iraq government
Tootsie: just had to bring this in- with respect to Iraq Currency after the CPA took over the reconstruction, etc, This is the whole item ~~ Oral Histories: The Iraq Experience Project The Oral Histories Project on Stability Operations http://ift.tt/1Wh6SGi... ~~ lots of reading there , BUT
http://ift.tt/1Np7JPi
Tootsie: this is the goodie , re: the currency ~~ 1 United States Institute of Peace Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Iraq Experience Project HUGH TANT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Interviewed by: Mark Gribbin Initial interview date: October 22, http://ift.tt/1M3V8UL...
http://ift.tt/1LdqdzA
Tootsie: Brigadier General Hugh Tant, retired, is a career army officer who has extensive experience in financial management. Most recently, he spent five-an-ahalf years in charge of two-thirds ($44 billion) of the Army's budget.
He volunteered to lead the currency exchange program in Iraq. He was stationed in Iraq from September 2003 to January 2004. The currency exchange program ran from October 15 2003 to January 15 2003. Currency exchange was necessary for five reasons; ~~~ Tootsie: bye again
TxBrand: The IQD Team Connect @TheIQDTeam · 6m6 minutes ago Maliki calls to stand firm against attempts to divide Iraq in case he get's arrested http://ift.tt/1M3V8UN... someone drew horns on M :pouty:
http://ift.tt/1Ldqd2B
TxBrand: in case he get's arrested :blink:
Oneness: ultimately the iraqi dinar reinstatement is about the rule of law ... specifically what type of law does the iraqi people can all agree to follow
Oneness: i do wonder if this crisis of national identity can only be resolved through a unified mideast project ... the gulf cooperation council
Oneness: leading ultimately to The World Peace project
chattels: ‹@Oneness› I doubt that Iran wants or is wanted in the GCC
Oneness: @chattels ... The Ottaman empire was able to blend everybody together
Oneness: and ... there is a certain level of respect accord to those who have nuclear power
Oneness: i can certainly envision the masses of humanity agreeing that peace is better than war
chattels: If my history serves me the " Ottomons " were an empire of conquest and subjugation
Oneness: perhaps, but i was referring to how shiites and sunnis lived together, i think peacefully coexisted in a rule of law
whitelions: ‹@TxBrand› I see you saw my little joke in case he gets arrested lol
chattels: While there are distinct theological differences between Sunnis and Shias, the claim that these two groups have been in a perpetual state of war and animosity throughout their existence is an absurd falsehood.
The conflict now brewing between certain Sunni and Shia political factions in the Middle East today has little or nothing to do with religious differences and everything to do with modern identity politics. chattels: http://ift.tt/1tAw5if...
http://ift.tt/1VpYGTI
whitelions: ‹@chattels› I agree
chattels: For centuries, Sunnis and Shias (as well as Christians, Jews and other religious groups) have lived closely intertwined with one another to a degree without parallel elsewhere in the world. Even where they have exerted power through distinct political structures, the argument that this has equated to conflict does not stand up to even a cursory analysis.
While the Sunni Ottoman Empire and Shia Safavid Empire experienced their share of conflict, they also lived peaceably alongside one another for hundreds of years, even considering it shameful to engage in conflict with one another as Muslim powers.
whitelions: ‹@TxBrand› yes I'm so tired of him falling through the cracks all the time I took some license lol
lonegunman: ‹@Oneness› in response to you stating the ottaman empire was able to blend ! everone togrther ? perhaps one should ask an armenian first !!
chattels: The Ottomans maintained a dual system of laws - Sharia for Muslims and another law for others ( Christians / Jews )
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› dimi status ! have to pay a zizrah tax
lonegunman: sorry jizrah
whitelions: ‹@chattels› ‹@lonegunman› you too may be getting a little over his /her head He/ she may need some time to answer
Oneness: Hi room ... battery died ... everyone knows how that goes ... :pouty:
Oneness: just fyi ... male / 51/divorced/2kids/employed/Baha'i/own dinar/enjoy discussing big ideas and learning new things
Oneness: i listened to a ted talk on npr today ... about learning ... kids in slums of india, when given a computer with no keyboard, just mouse monitor and computer stuck in a wall in the slum ... learned english and figured out how to access character keys and self taught themselves many things
BOBBY: its amazing...... the desire to learn
Oneness: in a different experiment ... a computer was left in another remote village in india that was english only and only was programed to have information about dna, and abnormal self replicating dna ...
the expirementor went back and sure enough, the slum kids, not understanding english, were able to figure out english and discuss dna in their native tongue with him
Oneness: so ... i guess that npr radio got me thinking about computers, super computers,wall street, algorithms, and the dinar - Oneness: after all , all roads lead to the dinar ... jj
BOBBY: Oneness.... i take all of this with a grain of salt so to speak
Oneness: @bobby ... it truth, npr today, ted talk 90.7 orlando fl
Oneness: overall discussion on learning
BOBBY: Oneness ..... the dinar community is an interesting subject in itself
Oneness: well yes ... there is a deep almost religious belief about the dinar in dinarland
Oneness: and for good reason
BOBBY: all boils down to the dollars in the end
Oneness: in brief .... when i started thinking about computers ... it got me thinking about using a super computer to do currency trades
Oneness: if you will ... imagine somewhere in the world ... a super computer ... modeling and working on ... not only currency trades
Oneness: but specifically how to create a "single world currency"
Oneness: wall street is filled with fancy computers doing stock trades
BOBBY: its amazing ..... we were around to see the internet come into existence
Oneness: amen
Oneness: almost a religious feel to the internet to
BOBBY: lol.... not in my world
BOBBY: i just use it as a tool, nothing more
BOBBY: i know plenty who would agree with you though
BOBBY: some in my house lol
Oneness: yes ... but what a powerful tool it is ... omnipotent {lol} ... jj
Oneness: " Grains of sand–the most humble and ostensibly worthless of materials–metamorphosed into silicon wafers and optically pure glass, making possible the creation of worldwide communications networks.
This, together with the deployment of ever more sophisticated satellite systems, has begun providing access to the accumulated knowledge of the entire human race for people everywhere, without distinction."
Oneness: the most humble and ostensibly worthless of materials ... love that line
BOBBY: i still prefer to deal with people face to face
Oneness: but ... yeah , ... , im brief ... a super computer running algorithms to create currency trade ... pretty sure it out there somewhere
Oneness: get an iphone ... face time ... jj
BOBBY: just think........ when and if this ends....... the story behind it
Oneness: yes ... the real world does need to be built too
Oneness: yes ... well the ending still has to be written doesn't
BOBBY: my opinion. .... i walk into the real world every day....... only one we have
BOBBY: it is what we made it
Oneness: and still are making it
BOBBY: agreed
Tootsie: Just came across , while scanning tv menue, Saddam and the Third Reich ~ 2 hrs, I am recording ~ descriptin. The Baath party was formed upon the organizational structure of the Nazi Party'; Iraq, beause of its oil and hatred of Jews was an important battleground. If anyone gets the Military Channel (did not even know Uverse had such lol) may want to look for it.
BOBBY: Tootsie..... is it dinar related. lol
Oneness: wow ...
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› doubt it, but about saddam and such, who knows
BOBBY: just teasing
Tootsie: I was shocked to see the Baath party info - This was a large issue several years ago, , getting rid of it -- remember debaathification?
BOBBY: looking for it now
Tootsie: I am recording 5 a.m. cst tomorrow
Oneness: @ bobby, listened to a few calls, but i don't know which one was Lj
Oneness: i sorta liked wang dang, kinda knowledgeable about early days of dinar
Oneness: and actually have a lot of love/hate feeling about tnt
Oneness: mountain goat is pretty straight forward ... laws have to be passed ... thus our current spot about "legal tender" and stuff
TxBrand: they are all guessing... but i still like to listen
Oneness: laws are laws ... i do see the goats position on that
Oneness: when i got involved back in 04 , i really thought it would be a quick thing
Oneness: when m got involved, i gave up for awhile
Oneness: now ... with the idea of a super computer, whether real or imagined, .... i actually have a little bit more sympathy for m (and all political figures)
Oneness: just cogs in a wheel
Oneness: limited by their own understandings
BOBBY: Oneness..... by m do you mean Maliki?
Oneness: yes ... i have a little more sympathy for him now ... i didn't pay attention to the dinar community when he was in power
BOBBY: Oneness ...... please explain
Oneness: don't get me wrong, his personal decisions to basically loot iraq and allow fanatical islam to take root in iraq is deplorable
Old banknotes were exchanged for new at a one-to-one rate, except for the Swiss dinars, which were exchanged at a rate of 150 new dinars for one Swiss dinar. Since Iraq has few exports other than oil, which is sold in dollars, there is little demand for Dinars and they remain in "exotic" status.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1Ldqd2u; http://ift.tt/1M3V9Ig
Tootsie: I don't think so, or feel so - there are requirements to be met prior to becoming a legal tender.
Oneness: perhaps history will show what a huge mistake that was
BOBBY: Chattels..... hence the speculation
Oneness: how much was lost not being able to trade internationally
Tootsie: K, have doggie day care to tend to, neighbors away for day - she is a sweet dog, -~~ Enjoy your evening all ~~ I put this joke out a few years back, but funny anyway
Tootsie: Reaching the end of a job interview, the Human Resources Officer asks a young engineer fresh out of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, "And what starting salary are you looking for?" The engineer replies, "In the region of $125,000 a year, depending on the benefits package."
The interviewer inquires, "Well, what would you say to a package of five weeks vacation, 14 paid holidays, full medical and dental, company matching retirement fund to 50% of salary, and a company car leased every two years, say, a red Corvette?" The engineer sits up straight and says, "Wow! Are you kidding?" The interviewer replies, "Yeah, but you started it."
Tootsie: poof
chattels: This is a long shot under the best of circumstances and circumstances are not good.
BOBBY: Oneness....... i am sure the amount is staggering. ........ as a result of the former Iraq government
Tootsie: just had to bring this in- with respect to Iraq Currency after the CPA took over the reconstruction, etc, This is the whole item ~~ Oral Histories: The Iraq Experience Project The Oral Histories Project on Stability Operations http://ift.tt/1Wh6SGi... ~~ lots of reading there , BUT
http://ift.tt/1Np7JPi
Tootsie: this is the goodie , re: the currency ~~ 1 United States Institute of Peace Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Iraq Experience Project HUGH TANT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Interviewed by: Mark Gribbin Initial interview date: October 22, http://ift.tt/1M3V8UL...
http://ift.tt/1LdqdzA
Tootsie: Brigadier General Hugh Tant, retired, is a career army officer who has extensive experience in financial management. Most recently, he spent five-an-ahalf years in charge of two-thirds ($44 billion) of the Army's budget.
He volunteered to lead the currency exchange program in Iraq. He was stationed in Iraq from September 2003 to January 2004. The currency exchange program ran from October 15 2003 to January 15 2003. Currency exchange was necessary for five reasons; ~~~ Tootsie: bye again
TxBrand: The IQD Team Connect @TheIQDTeam · 6m6 minutes ago Maliki calls to stand firm against attempts to divide Iraq in case he get's arrested http://ift.tt/1M3V8UN... someone drew horns on M :pouty:
http://ift.tt/1Ldqd2B
TxBrand: in case he get's arrested :blink:
Oneness: ultimately the iraqi dinar reinstatement is about the rule of law ... specifically what type of law does the iraqi people can all agree to follow
Oneness: i do wonder if this crisis of national identity can only be resolved through a unified mideast project ... the gulf cooperation council
Oneness: leading ultimately to The World Peace project
chattels: ‹@Oneness› I doubt that Iran wants or is wanted in the GCC
Oneness: @chattels ... The Ottaman empire was able to blend everybody together
Oneness: and ... there is a certain level of respect accord to those who have nuclear power
Oneness: i can certainly envision the masses of humanity agreeing that peace is better than war
chattels: If my history serves me the " Ottomons " were an empire of conquest and subjugation
Oneness: perhaps, but i was referring to how shiites and sunnis lived together, i think peacefully coexisted in a rule of law
whitelions: ‹@TxBrand› I see you saw my little joke in case he gets arrested lol
chattels: While there are distinct theological differences between Sunnis and Shias, the claim that these two groups have been in a perpetual state of war and animosity throughout their existence is an absurd falsehood.
The conflict now brewing between certain Sunni and Shia political factions in the Middle East today has little or nothing to do with religious differences and everything to do with modern identity politics. chattels: http://ift.tt/1tAw5if...
http://ift.tt/1VpYGTI
whitelions: ‹@chattels› I agree
chattels: For centuries, Sunnis and Shias (as well as Christians, Jews and other religious groups) have lived closely intertwined with one another to a degree without parallel elsewhere in the world. Even where they have exerted power through distinct political structures, the argument that this has equated to conflict does not stand up to even a cursory analysis.
While the Sunni Ottoman Empire and Shia Safavid Empire experienced their share of conflict, they also lived peaceably alongside one another for hundreds of years, even considering it shameful to engage in conflict with one another as Muslim powers.
whitelions: ‹@TxBrand› yes I'm so tired of him falling through the cracks all the time I took some license lol
lonegunman: ‹@Oneness› in response to you stating the ottaman empire was able to blend ! everone togrther ? perhaps one should ask an armenian first !!
chattels: The Ottomans maintained a dual system of laws - Sharia for Muslims and another law for others ( Christians / Jews )
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› dimi status ! have to pay a zizrah tax
lonegunman: sorry jizrah
whitelions: ‹@chattels› ‹@lonegunman› you too may be getting a little over his /her head He/ she may need some time to answer
Oneness: Hi room ... battery died ... everyone knows how that goes ... :pouty:
Oneness: just fyi ... male / 51/divorced/2kids/employed/Baha'i/own dinar/enjoy discussing big ideas and learning new things
Oneness: i listened to a ted talk on npr today ... about learning ... kids in slums of india, when given a computer with no keyboard, just mouse monitor and computer stuck in a wall in the slum ... learned english and figured out how to access character keys and self taught themselves many things
BOBBY: its amazing...... the desire to learn
Oneness: in a different experiment ... a computer was left in another remote village in india that was english only and only was programed to have information about dna, and abnormal self replicating dna ...
the expirementor went back and sure enough, the slum kids, not understanding english, were able to figure out english and discuss dna in their native tongue with him
Oneness: so ... i guess that npr radio got me thinking about computers, super computers,wall street, algorithms, and the dinar - Oneness: after all , all roads lead to the dinar ... jj
BOBBY: Oneness.... i take all of this with a grain of salt so to speak
Oneness: @bobby ... it truth, npr today, ted talk 90.7 orlando fl
Oneness: overall discussion on learning
BOBBY: Oneness ..... the dinar community is an interesting subject in itself
Oneness: well yes ... there is a deep almost religious belief about the dinar in dinarland
Oneness: and for good reason
BOBBY: all boils down to the dollars in the end
Oneness: in brief .... when i started thinking about computers ... it got me thinking about using a super computer to do currency trades
Oneness: if you will ... imagine somewhere in the world ... a super computer ... modeling and working on ... not only currency trades
Oneness: but specifically how to create a "single world currency"
Oneness: wall street is filled with fancy computers doing stock trades
BOBBY: its amazing ..... we were around to see the internet come into existence
Oneness: amen
Oneness: almost a religious feel to the internet to
BOBBY: lol.... not in my world
BOBBY: i just use it as a tool, nothing more
BOBBY: i know plenty who would agree with you though
BOBBY: some in my house lol
Oneness: yes ... but what a powerful tool it is ... omnipotent {lol} ... jj
Oneness: " Grains of sand–the most humble and ostensibly worthless of materials–metamorphosed into silicon wafers and optically pure glass, making possible the creation of worldwide communications networks.
This, together with the deployment of ever more sophisticated satellite systems, has begun providing access to the accumulated knowledge of the entire human race for people everywhere, without distinction."
Oneness: the most humble and ostensibly worthless of materials ... love that line
BOBBY: i still prefer to deal with people face to face
Oneness: but ... yeah , ... , im brief ... a super computer running algorithms to create currency trade ... pretty sure it out there somewhere
Oneness: get an iphone ... face time ... jj
BOBBY: just think........ when and if this ends....... the story behind it
Oneness: yes ... the real world does need to be built too
Oneness: yes ... well the ending still has to be written doesn't
BOBBY: my opinion. .... i walk into the real world every day....... only one we have
BOBBY: it is what we made it
Oneness: and still are making it
BOBBY: agreed
Tootsie: Just came across , while scanning tv menue, Saddam and the Third Reich ~ 2 hrs, I am recording ~ descriptin. The Baath party was formed upon the organizational structure of the Nazi Party'; Iraq, beause of its oil and hatred of Jews was an important battleground. If anyone gets the Military Channel (did not even know Uverse had such lol) may want to look for it.
BOBBY: Tootsie..... is it dinar related. lol
Oneness: wow ...
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› doubt it, but about saddam and such, who knows
BOBBY: just teasing
Tootsie: I was shocked to see the Baath party info - This was a large issue several years ago, , getting rid of it -- remember debaathification?
BOBBY: looking for it now
Tootsie: I am recording 5 a.m. cst tomorrow
Oneness: @ bobby, listened to a few calls, but i don't know which one was Lj
Oneness: i sorta liked wang dang, kinda knowledgeable about early days of dinar
Oneness: and actually have a lot of love/hate feeling about tnt
Oneness: mountain goat is pretty straight forward ... laws have to be passed ... thus our current spot about "legal tender" and stuff
TxBrand: they are all guessing... but i still like to listen
Oneness: laws are laws ... i do see the goats position on that
Oneness: when i got involved back in 04 , i really thought it would be a quick thing
Oneness: when m got involved, i gave up for awhile
Oneness: now ... with the idea of a super computer, whether real or imagined, .... i actually have a little bit more sympathy for m (and all political figures)
Oneness: just cogs in a wheel
Oneness: limited by their own understandings
BOBBY: Oneness..... by m do you mean Maliki?
Oneness: yes ... i have a little more sympathy for him now ... i didn't pay attention to the dinar community when he was in power
BOBBY: Oneness ...... please explain
Oneness: don't get me wrong, his personal decisions to basically loot iraq and allow fanatical islam to take root in iraq is deplorable
BOBBY: Oneness.... where does the sympathy come into play
Oneness: yet, i can also see how an "unseen hand" , ... the market forces if you will , or (super computer churning us all to single world currency status if you believe in such things) .... the "unseen hand" having a great influence on m
Oneness: m , basically allowed the market forces to rule him , instead of him ruling the market forces
BOBBY: Bobby..... i believe Maliki to be nothing more then a maniacal, power hungry dictator with no regards to human life and responsible for his own actions
Oneness: fatal character flaw ... greed ... seven deadly sins ... et all
BOBBY: Bobby....... and i pray to what ever God there is he dies a justly deserved death
Oneness: ultimately there is a judgement day Oneness: for all of us
BOBBY: Oneness....... any idea the amount of lives he destroyed on there election day?
Oneness: again though ... this all does circle back to the rule of law
Oneness: wow ... we all hold blood money
BOBBY: laws are only as good as the people who install them and the people who allow them to continue to be laws, my opinion
Oneness: it is interesting that the 25k note does depict the rule of law
Oneness: any news on the iraqi delegation coming to america to sell bonds ?
BOBBY: have not seen anything
Oneness: wish i would have thought about trying to send a delegation of ordinary dinarians to try and get a meeting too
Oneness: would have been nice to send a few average citizens to try and get a voice at the table too'
Oneness: or at least to get a solid report of things discussed behind closed doors
Oneness: the average citizen can have great power, look at what iraqi citizens are doing
Oneness: i did think about showing up ... lol ... but not really the one with a cool head at the moment
BOBBY: Oneness... one thing i am curious is how long the demonstration s will yeild results
Oneness: or what the results will be
BOBBY: the clerical pressure seems to be mounting
Oneness: obviously it will take at least a year, maybe two, to get a reliable power plant built
BOBBY: i was over there for 2 years..... you time progress with a calendar
BOBBY: if i am not mistaken, a plant was or is under construction
TxBrand: they could afford a generator for everyone .. and use the oil stored to run them lol
TxBrand: solar
BOBBY: there sitting on a winning lottery ticket
TxBrand: nite
Oneness: yet, i can also see how an "unseen hand" , ... the market forces if you will , or (super computer churning us all to single world currency status if you believe in such things) .... the "unseen hand" having a great influence on m
Oneness: m , basically allowed the market forces to rule him , instead of him ruling the market forces
BOBBY: Bobby..... i believe Maliki to be nothing more then a maniacal, power hungry dictator with no regards to human life and responsible for his own actions
Oneness: fatal character flaw ... greed ... seven deadly sins ... et all
BOBBY: Bobby....... and i pray to what ever God there is he dies a justly deserved death
Oneness: ultimately there is a judgement day Oneness: for all of us
BOBBY: Oneness....... any idea the amount of lives he destroyed on there election day?
Oneness: again though ... this all does circle back to the rule of law
Oneness: wow ... we all hold blood money
BOBBY: laws are only as good as the people who install them and the people who allow them to continue to be laws, my opinion
Oneness: it is interesting that the 25k note does depict the rule of law
Oneness: any news on the iraqi delegation coming to america to sell bonds ?
BOBBY: have not seen anything
Oneness: wish i would have thought about trying to send a delegation of ordinary dinarians to try and get a meeting too
Oneness: would have been nice to send a few average citizens to try and get a voice at the table too'
Oneness: or at least to get a solid report of things discussed behind closed doors
Oneness: the average citizen can have great power, look at what iraqi citizens are doing
Oneness: i did think about showing up ... lol ... but not really the one with a cool head at the moment
BOBBY: Oneness... one thing i am curious is how long the demonstration s will yeild results
Oneness: or what the results will be
BOBBY: the clerical pressure seems to be mounting
Oneness: obviously it will take at least a year, maybe two, to get a reliable power plant built
BOBBY: i was over there for 2 years..... you time progress with a calendar
BOBBY: if i am not mistaken, a plant was or is under construction
TxBrand: they could afford a generator for everyone .. and use the oil stored to run them lol
TxBrand: solar
BOBBY: there sitting on a winning lottery ticket
TxBrand: nite
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