Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-4-15
Wealthwatch Morning Chat 8-4-15 Part 2 of 2
Doug_W: quite the oposite 11
jazzyblue: okay let me ask this.......i totally understand what you are saying sczin, but could they be doing this JUST for the fact of being able to join the WTO?
(sorry if dum question)........the article again that i am reading states ..........the General Administration of Customs created the supplies necessary for the application of the law at border posts,” pointing out that “the law will allow Iraq to join the WTO membership global “.
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› PLEASE ELABORATE
chattels: Select Council of Ministers, in its meeting today allowances rent real estate inside the Green Zone in central Baghdad.
A source in the prime minister told all of Iraq [where], "The Council decided in its meeting today to determine allowances for rent real estate inside the Green Zone are calculated rents as follows:
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Wealthwatch Morning Chat 8-4-15 Part 2 of 2
Doug_W: quite the oposite 11
jazzyblue: okay let me ask this.......i totally understand what you are saying sczin, but could they be doing this JUST for the fact of being able to join the WTO?
(sorry if dum question)........the article again that i am reading states ..........the General Administration of Customs created the supplies necessary for the application of the law at border posts,” pointing out that “the law will allow Iraq to join the WTO membership global “.
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› PLEASE ELABORATE
chattels: Select Council of Ministers, in its meeting today allowances rent real estate inside the Green Zone in central Baghdad.
A source in the prime minister told all of Iraq [where], "The Council decided in its meeting today to determine allowances for rent real estate inside the Green Zone are calculated rents as follows:
~~~
A - role located in the Green Zone, an area of less than 100 square meters will be instead of the monthly leased 500 thousand dinars.
(b) Property area of 100 meters and less than 200 square meters have lease million dinars allowance.
(c) Property area of 200 meters to less than 400 square meters will be lease and a half million dinars instead.
d - Property of 400 meters and less space from 600 square meters to be instead of lease million and 750 000 dinars, a proposal may be the alternative to him in the amount of two million dinars.
e - Property area more than 600 square meters have instead lease two million dinars, and the alternative is two million and a half million dinars.
jazzyblue: and if i remember correctly, i stand corrected if i am wrong, but one of the stipulations of either the strategic framework or the monetary reform is to be a member of the WTO
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE WHOLE PICTURE, BUT THE LAST REQUIREMENT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IS THEY MUST HAVE A UNIQUE CURRENCY, THE DINAR, AND IT MUST BE INTERNATINALLY TRADEABLE
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdQ0q
chattels: one square meter equals 10.79 square feet
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› HAVING TARIFFS IMPISED, WITH NO PURCHASING, WILL NOT BE A BENEFIT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE WTO
jazzyblue: and when they are accepted i would guess into the WTO upon these stipulations to join and this is something that was i think speculated ........THAT is when they are to or should change the value of the currency
Doug_W: ‹@sczin11› if no goods are sold No taxes are collected etc etc
chattels: 100 square meters is over 10,000 square feet of space rented at 500,000 dinar per month
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› THEY NEED A TRUE VALUE TO ENTER THE WTO, BUT THEY DONT NEED WTO TO GET A TRUE VALUE
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR COMMENT..U WERE AGREEING WITH ME..THGHT JUST THE REVERSE
Doug_W: :)
jazzyblue: okay im sorry i bothered yall, it was just a point of view :)
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› NO BOTHER AT ALL...GREAT DISCUSSION
chattels: "We have completed the private reasons for the fall of Mosul report, and who we are reasons a spade, and pending identification especially in the Iraqi parliament session to view the truth as they are exposed to the public and to transmit the report to the Iraqi judiciary. "
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1L
jazzyblue: hey chattels i found an seem to be interesting read.......it is basically a theoretical piece but seem quite interesting :) ........... http://ift.tt/1ILdSW7...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8NTC
jazzyblue: it speaks specifically about exchange rates, wto, effects, and devaluation effects, etc
chattels: "members of a commission of inquiry fall of Mosul are lawyers figures accused of the events," adding "we will remember names involved and will not be afraid that we will give the report within days to the House of Representatives. "
He was Vice Chairman of the Committee Ahmed al-Jubouri has said for [where] that "the final report of the committee will read in Parliament within 10 days after it is completed about the course of events and the course of the investigation,"
adding that " recommendations and decisions of the report to be presented to the House of Representatives and in the case of approval of the Council, it will be binding to the executive because it will be in the framework of the Constitution and the laws in force ".
chattels: ‹@jazzyblue› Thanks, read that some time ago I think and have saved it to read again
jazzyblue: it seems to be a pretty good read
chattels: Seem as though Dan Huse may have suggested that article at one time
chattels: " Heady " for me probably
[08/04/2015 09:27:06 AM] chattels: [Baghdad - where] Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, announced overcome some of the obstacles, the National Guard on draft laws and political parties and the Federal Court.
A statement by his office, on Tuesday, the agency received all of Iraq [where], a copy of the "al-Jubouri, received in his private office, today, the British ambassador to Iraq, Frank Baker, During the meeting, they reviewed the political and security scenes, and the importance of interest laws legislation into law the National Guard and the law of parties and federal court.
The statement confirmed Jubouri that "the meetings of the parliamentary blocs continuing to reach agreements satisfactory to all parties," referring to "overcome some of the obstacles that the Council is making great efforts to pass such laws,"
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdSWb
chattels: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." - Pulp Fiction
[08/04/2015 09:37:14 AM] chattels: [Baghdad - where] the economic expert on behalf of Antoine said, "There is no fear of the low reserve balance of the central bank."
According to Antoine, told all of Iraq [where], "low central bank reserves does not affect the country's economy, as the balance is to support the Iraqi dinar, which retains its value and powered by the Central Bank reserves in gold and the dollar rare coin, there is no fear of low reserves, as that is supposed to use the amount in the time of need for the purpose of advancing the process of development and the elimination of unemployment, poverty and provide infrastructure services. "
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1O
chattels: The more assurances given makes for less assurance by me.
newbieDA: interesting chattels, ty
chattels: [Baghdad - where] spokesman for the Council of Anbar province reveal Ammash festival, on Tuesday, a terrorist organization Daash, destroyed more than 1,500 schools "in part and in whole" in the province.
Said Ammash in a press statement that "the majority of these schools targeted direct terrorist groups Daash," adding that "the rest are places used by the organization as bases were targeted by Iraqi forces and the air force of the alliance, or they were simply located in combat zones."
The spokesman stressed that "after restore Anbar Daash going to need a lot of money and a period of two and a half, at least for the reconstruction and rehabilitation of these schools.
According to the latest statistics of the United Nations, more than 70% of children who have been displaced from their areas in Iraq because of the battles are deprived of education.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdSWd
[newbieDA: have you seen the article titled PM Abadi: the Maliki government "spent" all Iraq cash reserves
chattels: there will be little of any infrastructure remaining in Anbar governate by the time DAESH is removed
chattels: it will take years to make a physical recovery and the human toll on children and their education may be irrecoverable, a lost generation
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / MP on the mass of the citizen Hassan Khalati eight Committee of the National Alliance to speed up the resolution of problematic presidency of the alliance.
He stressed in a statement to the mass citizen today that the resolution of the dispute over the presidency of the National Alliance is very important and there are alternative options for choosing the head of the alliance, stressing the existence of the eight expensive to negotiate with the political blocs on the subject.
He said there are several proposals on the table to choose the head of the National Alliance, said Hmak of the opinion that the election shall be directly, and some of them believe that the presidency will be collectively or periodically,
while others believe that the presidency will be political figure enjoying broad acceptance the rest of the political components and impose respect to the rest of the other blocs. "
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1Q
chattels: ‹@newbieDA› i did, thank you
chattels: Maliki's fate may lie with the Shia internal battle ( National Alliance ) to choose their next leader
chattels: My sense is that Maliki cannot survive in the margins of political power. He has too many enemies, so if he is not chosen as the leader of the National Alliance then he likely is indeed on the way out and out of the country to Iran.
chattels: I am " betting " on Hakim.
chattels: But I cannot figure out American politics and often wonder what I think that I am saying that is accurate or revealing about Iraqi politics.
newbieDA: following all this is very tricky, your doing a great job chattels
chattels: Here ends my soliloquy for this morning :)
newbieDA: most welcomed too, ty
newbieDA: I enjoyed listening
chattels: ‹@newbieDA› thanks for the company and encouragement this a.m.
BB824: Given that no one buying reserves was a qualified investor....could the SEC or FTC go after them too? http://ift.tt/1ILdSWf...
http://ift.tt/18w3MJA
BB824: REGULATIONS ON "QUALIFIED INVESTOR"
newbieDA: np chattels, I look forward to it, love your insights
BB824: Defendants operate their fraudulent scheme via the Internet through the use of their website, by offering, and entering into, transactions in forex with non-ECP retail customers that are leveraged, margined or financed by the Defendants, and that result in actual delivery of forex – if at all - within periods of not less than 15 days and as much as 120 days following the date of the transaction(s).
chattels: ‹@BB824› I have wondered that to myself.
newbieDA: sorry, I am not following the reserves too much since I never got into them
chattels: One thought along those lines is that the object of the continuing litigation is to reimburse customers as I read the information
chattels: hold, i will pull it up
Imagist: ‹@chattels› I would imagine that the preference would be similar to Nixon here- a pardon and done to long division in the country.
(b) Property area of 100 meters and less than 200 square meters have lease million dinars allowance.
(c) Property area of 200 meters to less than 400 square meters will be lease and a half million dinars instead.
d - Property of 400 meters and less space from 600 square meters to be instead of lease million and 750 000 dinars, a proposal may be the alternative to him in the amount of two million dinars.
e - Property area more than 600 square meters have instead lease two million dinars, and the alternative is two million and a half million dinars.
jazzyblue: and if i remember correctly, i stand corrected if i am wrong, but one of the stipulations of either the strategic framework or the monetary reform is to be a member of the WTO
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE WHOLE PICTURE, BUT THE LAST REQUIREMENT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IS THEY MUST HAVE A UNIQUE CURRENCY, THE DINAR, AND IT MUST BE INTERNATINALLY TRADEABLE
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdQ0q
chattels: one square meter equals 10.79 square feet
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› HAVING TARIFFS IMPISED, WITH NO PURCHASING, WILL NOT BE A BENEFIT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE WTO
jazzyblue: and when they are accepted i would guess into the WTO upon these stipulations to join and this is something that was i think speculated ........THAT is when they are to or should change the value of the currency
Doug_W: ‹@sczin11› if no goods are sold No taxes are collected etc etc
chattels: 100 square meters is over 10,000 square feet of space rented at 500,000 dinar per month
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› THEY NEED A TRUE VALUE TO ENTER THE WTO, BUT THEY DONT NEED WTO TO GET A TRUE VALUE
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR COMMENT..U WERE AGREEING WITH ME..THGHT JUST THE REVERSE
Doug_W: :)
jazzyblue: okay im sorry i bothered yall, it was just a point of view :)
sczin11: ‹@jazzyblue› NO BOTHER AT ALL...GREAT DISCUSSION
chattels: "We have completed the private reasons for the fall of Mosul report, and who we are reasons a spade, and pending identification especially in the Iraqi parliament session to view the truth as they are exposed to the public and to transmit the report to the Iraqi judiciary. "
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1L
jazzyblue: hey chattels i found an seem to be interesting read.......it is basically a theoretical piece but seem quite interesting :) ........... http://ift.tt/1ILdSW7...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8NTC
jazzyblue: it speaks specifically about exchange rates, wto, effects, and devaluation effects, etc
chattels: "members of a commission of inquiry fall of Mosul are lawyers figures accused of the events," adding "we will remember names involved and will not be afraid that we will give the report within days to the House of Representatives. "
He was Vice Chairman of the Committee Ahmed al-Jubouri has said for [where] that "the final report of the committee will read in Parliament within 10 days after it is completed about the course of events and the course of the investigation,"
adding that " recommendations and decisions of the report to be presented to the House of Representatives and in the case of approval of the Council, it will be binding to the executive because it will be in the framework of the Constitution and the laws in force ".
chattels: ‹@jazzyblue› Thanks, read that some time ago I think and have saved it to read again
jazzyblue: it seems to be a pretty good read
chattels: Seem as though Dan Huse may have suggested that article at one time
chattels: " Heady " for me probably
[08/04/2015 09:27:06 AM] chattels: [Baghdad - where] Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, announced overcome some of the obstacles, the National Guard on draft laws and political parties and the Federal Court.
A statement by his office, on Tuesday, the agency received all of Iraq [where], a copy of the "al-Jubouri, received in his private office, today, the British ambassador to Iraq, Frank Baker, During the meeting, they reviewed the political and security scenes, and the importance of interest laws legislation into law the National Guard and the law of parties and federal court.
The statement confirmed Jubouri that "the meetings of the parliamentary blocs continuing to reach agreements satisfactory to all parties," referring to "overcome some of the obstacles that the Council is making great efforts to pass such laws,"
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdSWb
chattels: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." - Pulp Fiction
[08/04/2015 09:37:14 AM] chattels: [Baghdad - where] the economic expert on behalf of Antoine said, "There is no fear of the low reserve balance of the central bank."
According to Antoine, told all of Iraq [where], "low central bank reserves does not affect the country's economy, as the balance is to support the Iraqi dinar, which retains its value and powered by the Central Bank reserves in gold and the dollar rare coin, there is no fear of low reserves, as that is supposed to use the amount in the time of need for the purpose of advancing the process of development and the elimination of unemployment, poverty and provide infrastructure services. "
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1O
chattels: The more assurances given makes for less assurance by me.
newbieDA: interesting chattels, ty
chattels: [Baghdad - where] spokesman for the Council of Anbar province reveal Ammash festival, on Tuesday, a terrorist organization Daash, destroyed more than 1,500 schools "in part and in whole" in the province.
Said Ammash in a press statement that "the majority of these schools targeted direct terrorist groups Daash," adding that "the rest are places used by the organization as bases were targeted by Iraqi forces and the air force of the alliance, or they were simply located in combat zones."
The spokesman stressed that "after restore Anbar Daash going to need a lot of money and a period of two and a half, at least for the reconstruction and rehabilitation of these schools.
According to the latest statistics of the United Nations, more than 70% of children who have been displaced from their areas in Iraq because of the battles are deprived of education.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1ILdSWd
[newbieDA: have you seen the article titled PM Abadi: the Maliki government "spent" all Iraq cash reserves
chattels: there will be little of any infrastructure remaining in Anbar governate by the time DAESH is removed
chattels: it will take years to make a physical recovery and the human toll on children and their education may be irrecoverable, a lost generation
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / MP on the mass of the citizen Hassan Khalati eight Committee of the National Alliance to speed up the resolution of problematic presidency of the alliance.
He stressed in a statement to the mass citizen today that the resolution of the dispute over the presidency of the National Alliance is very important and there are alternative options for choosing the head of the alliance, stressing the existence of the eight expensive to negotiate with the political blocs on the subject.
He said there are several proposals on the table to choose the head of the National Alliance, said Hmak of the opinion that the election shall be directly, and some of them believe that the presidency will be collectively or periodically,
while others believe that the presidency will be political figure enjoying broad acceptance the rest of the political components and impose respect to the rest of the other blocs. "
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1Ij8M1Q
chattels: ‹@newbieDA› i did, thank you
chattels: Maliki's fate may lie with the Shia internal battle ( National Alliance ) to choose their next leader
chattels: My sense is that Maliki cannot survive in the margins of political power. He has too many enemies, so if he is not chosen as the leader of the National Alliance then he likely is indeed on the way out and out of the country to Iran.
chattels: I am " betting " on Hakim.
chattels: But I cannot figure out American politics and often wonder what I think that I am saying that is accurate or revealing about Iraqi politics.
newbieDA: following all this is very tricky, your doing a great job chattels
chattels: Here ends my soliloquy for this morning :)
newbieDA: most welcomed too, ty
newbieDA: I enjoyed listening
chattels: ‹@newbieDA› thanks for the company and encouragement this a.m.
BB824: Given that no one buying reserves was a qualified investor....could the SEC or FTC go after them too? http://ift.tt/1ILdSWf...
http://ift.tt/18w3MJA
BB824: REGULATIONS ON "QUALIFIED INVESTOR"
newbieDA: np chattels, I look forward to it, love your insights
BB824: Defendants operate their fraudulent scheme via the Internet through the use of their website, by offering, and entering into, transactions in forex with non-ECP retail customers that are leveraged, margined or financed by the Defendants, and that result in actual delivery of forex – if at all - within periods of not less than 15 days and as much as 120 days following the date of the transaction(s).
chattels: ‹@BB824› I have wondered that to myself.
newbieDA: sorry, I am not following the reserves too much since I never got into them
chattels: One thought along those lines is that the object of the continuing litigation is to reimburse customers as I read the information
chattels: hold, i will pull it up
Imagist: ‹@chattels› I would imagine that the preference would be similar to Nixon here- a pardon and done to long division in the country.
chattels: In its continuing litigation, the CFTC seeks restitution to defrauded customers, disgorgement of ill-gotten gains, a civil monetary penalty, permanent registration and trading bans, and a permanent injunction against future violations of federal commodities laws, as charged.
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
[10:04:28 AM] Doug_W: www.aeromobil.com/
chattels: ‹@Imagist› I seriously doubt that Maliki will be prosecuted in / by Iraq, but .........
chattels: ‹@BB824› ineligible participants as they are defined in the law seem to be the class of victims to receive restitution is my point
chattels: ineligible participants vs illegal participants may be the distinction
chattels: this is consumer protection at work it occurs to me
BB824: Electronic Code of Federal Regulations http://ift.tt/1ILdSWf...
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› ‹@Doug_W› ‹@Doug_W› May all your dreams come true :)
BOBBY: Doug W.... that is way cooler then what the Jetsons used lol
chattels: ‹@BB824› not much. saying wait to the hearing on the continuation of the temporary injunction ( my words paraphrasing him )
chattels: he did opine that the hearing was " quick " as though such was unusual, but in my experience when an ex parte order is issued by the court thay have a hearing real soon to make sure that due process is afforded the defendants
BB824: omg, there so much out now theier done
chattels: duty and the privilege of service to my fellow man are calling, bbl
chattels: ‹@Winnerdinar› it appears that any transaction not completed within two days runs afoul of the commodity futures regulatory scheme
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
[10:04:28 AM] Doug_W: www.aeromobil.com/
chattels: ‹@Imagist› I seriously doubt that Maliki will be prosecuted in / by Iraq, but .........
chattels: ‹@BB824› ineligible participants as they are defined in the law seem to be the class of victims to receive restitution is my point
chattels: ineligible participants vs illegal participants may be the distinction
chattels: this is consumer protection at work it occurs to me
BB824: Electronic Code of Federal Regulations http://ift.tt/1ILdSWf...
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› ‹@Doug_W› ‹@Doug_W› May all your dreams come true :)
BOBBY: Doug W.... that is way cooler then what the Jetsons used lol
chattels: ‹@BB824› not much. saying wait to the hearing on the continuation of the temporary injunction ( my words paraphrasing him )
chattels: he did opine that the hearing was " quick " as though such was unusual, but in my experience when an ex parte order is issued by the court thay have a hearing real soon to make sure that due process is afforded the defendants
BB824: omg, there so much out now theier done
chattels: duty and the privilege of service to my fellow man are calling, bbl
chattels: ‹@Winnerdinar› it appears that any transaction not completed within two days runs afoul of the commodity futures regulatory scheme
via Dinar Recaps - Our Blog http://ift.tt/1Ij8NTw
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