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Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-11-15
chattels: donnie - translate please when you can http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
chattels: or anyone else
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 9h9 hours ago One-time legal adviser to #Iraq's Maliki describes him as "former official" with no right to attend official meetings http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1IKOlcn
disciple7: ‹@Abraham› hmmm.. i was just thinking that today.. i meet new people everyday.. literally.. God is good
chattels: the description of Maliki as a " former official " is relevant to the article describing his " detention " at the airport
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Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-11-15
chattels: donnie - translate please when you can http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
chattels: or anyone else
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 9h9 hours ago One-time legal adviser to #Iraq's Maliki describes him as "former official" with no right to attend official meetings http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1IKOlcn
disciple7: ‹@Abraham› hmmm.. i was just thinking that today.. i meet new people everyday.. literally.. God is good
chattels: the description of Maliki as a " former official " is relevant to the article describing his " detention " at the airport
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chattels: photos of the three VP's and three Dpty MP's
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... http://ift.tt/1IKOlcn
chattels: all now " former officials " ! ?
chattels: still need a translation on the article
Fit2beFit: Urgent legal expert: Vice infallible and Abadi are former status after approval of the reforms
Fit2beFit: A legal expert said that "as Deputy President Fouad Massoum, Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi, a former became after House approval on government reforms and parliamentary package."
Tariq Harb, said each agency Iraq IGN that "officeholders cancelled became as ex after House approval on Government and parliamentary reform package but originally even before approval once the decision", adding that he "cannot attend these meetings in their constituencies they no longer have a functional or legal basis."
"The House approval on reforms do not need to authenticate to the President of the Republic and cannot be challenged even if they do not achieve any result."
The "authorization of the Prime Minister to dismiss Governors and Presidents and members of local councils are originally from within his constitutional prerogatives, either abolishing the municipal councils are illegal origin and not air impact to career staff for provincial law includes districts and councils, municipal councils was established by former us civil administrator Paul Bremer and Iraqi is not illegal."
Fit2beFit: Legal expert promised approval by Parliament on these reforms "as a reference to the existence of the will and determination to make transitions and apply the Constitution as it stands real away than Shush him political and sectarian quota and they return to exercise constitutional powers, not how you got the vast majority of MPs but Odder ones including the ouster of senior and its abolition".
"These reforms give the impression, that the Prime Minister is determined to achieve it the first Exchange since 2003, an Iraqi decision, all decisions taken are foreign and advice of the United Nations."
Legal expert stressed that "the Prime Minister of reforms is under legal and constitutional prerogatives but until now had not exercised the full powers that article 78 of the Constitution have made Prime Minister directly responsible for implementing State policy and not just government policy namely that an Executive Officer of the public policy in the Parliament and head of State and Government and the State as a whole so that the term [State] includes everything mentioned above.
Fit2beFit: He "approved this constitutional article, it gives the Prime Minister the validity of policy formulation and the adoption of the House as well as for the Presidency of the State include all these authorities".
The Iraqi Parliament was approved unanimously on an initial package of governmental and parliamentary reforms including several resolutions notably reduce expenses and cancellation of senior officials and fight corruption and the adoption of important laws, including the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic and the Prime Minister immediately finished 16
Fit2beFit: -------------------------------anytime
Donnie: This seems a little diff translation.
Donnie: Urgent legal expert: Vice-Abadi become infallible and as former after the approval of the reforms
Donnie: [Baghdad-where] legal expert said the "recipe vice president Fuad Masum, and the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, has become a precedent after the House of Representatives approval of the government and parliamentary reforms package."
Said Tariq Harb told all of Iraq [where] that "the positions of canceled owners are in former after the House of Representatives approval of the government and parliamentary reforms package but originally even before approval and as soon as the resolution,"
he said, adding that he "can not they come to official meetings in their constituencies because they no longer having the capacity of functional or legal. " He added that "the House of Representatives approve the reforms do not need to President of the Republic authentication is not entitled to object to them and even if it they do not achieve any result."
Donnie: never mind.... seems close enough
Fit2beFit: I think they are gonna put up a little fight, but in the end this time, there are just too many now against them
chattels: wealthwatch.world/newthre... http://ift.tt/1IRI51o
chattels: Translation courtesy of Fit2beFit :)
Donnie: The Prime Minister directs integrity lifting of the names of the defendants of stealing public money and squatters on state property to eliminate
Donnie: 11/08/2015 18:00 Mr. Prime Minister, the face of the Integrity Commission to raise issues relating to the names of the defendants of stealing public money and overtaking on the property of the state and the people to prevent them from traveling and bring them to justice
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiN4R
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1BNbkWF...
http://ift.tt/1NaiKWQ
chattels: there remain some constitutional issues
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiKWS
chattels: interestingly Visser refers to Harb as a " former " legal advisor to Maliki
chattels: actually " one time " advisor
chattels: " I find myself fighting a strong gag reflex when I read these pundits saying, AGAIN, how close we are with the advent of the reforms. Speaking as thought all of this was anticipated by them. How can we have been so close before the reforms and now close because of the reforms. Both cannot be true, IMO. I think I will just regurgitate right now and get it over with."
BOBBY: Chattels. ... i believe there is a new level of crap being spewed
Fit2beFit: So Close, reminds of XXXX statements starting back in November
chattels: I call it " reactionary intel "
nobody: i offer nothing
chattels: goes hand in hand with my peseudointellectualism
chattels: pseudo intellectualism *
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... easy now
chattels: Mahmood and his ilk are threatening gentlemen judges who fail to attend a meeting ((Allegiance to Mahmoud)) doom and destruction
chattels: thejusticenews.com/ http://ift.tt/1IKOo7S
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Once upon a time, .................. and they all lived happily ever after. :)
BOBBY: Chattels....... i love that one!!!!!!! especially the part about the contract rate
chattels: 8-11-15 Iraq Media Network: Abadi directed to prevent the defendants of stealing public money to travel and bring them to eliminate.
The face of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi preventing the defendants of stealing public money to travel abroad and bring them to justice.
A statement by his office said Abadi “face, on Tuesday, the Integrity Commission, the lifting of the names of the defendants of stealing public money and overtaking on the state and people’s property, to prevent them from traveling and bring them to justice.”
The House of Representatives vote this morning on the packs, governmental and parliamentary reforms included a focus on the past and present open the files of corruption and the fight against corruption in response to the directives of the Supreme religious authority and the demands of the demonstrators. http://ift.tt/1IKOmwO... http://ift.tt/1NaiLd6
chattels: After the vote, Jubouri’s spokesman, Imad al-Khafaji, described it as a “historic moment” for the country. “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,” he said. Khafaji said that if individuals object to the reforms, they can make a case in the courts. http://ift.tt/Q9nGS1... LINK
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: I HOPE THAT OUR DREAM OF AN INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENCY IS A PART OF IT.
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› DOES YOUR CHAT MONIKER BESPEAK SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH EXERCISE / FITNESS ?
chattels: Rosenthal strikes out the side in the ninth to save the Cardinals win over Pittsburgh
Fit2beFit: Yes I own a yoga training center
chattels: What part of the country are you ?
Fit2beFit: West Coast
BOBBY: Fit2beFit..... your thoughts on cigars lol
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
Fit2beFit: :tongue:
BOBBY: lol
Fit2beFit: Cigars require Terminix after using....loll.
BOBBY: easy now ..... lol
Fit2beFit: http://ift.tt/1IKOmwQ...
Fit2beFit: lolololololol
Fit2beFit: ON that note, have a relaxing good night all :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
chattels: Abadi was among the reforms and the resignation and choose the best option
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiN4Z
chattels: He has chosen the path of reform, but that path is not without problems.
chattels: "the Council of Ministers defended the Prime Minister option, and we explained the reasons for this, namely, that the prime minister will be free to choose between the survival of the situation for what it is, or to provide his resignation and therefore the government considered resigned and turned to the caretaker government, or to take this step which is much better than any other option. "
chattels: "The question now is, do these measures will lead to the achievement of the aspirations of our people or to start the movement of successive reforms, meet at least, in finish with the reasons that launched this movement, according to the religious authority directives and demands of the masses,
and the answer is yes, but the conditions, these steps will launch the movement and momentum must Asttmra positive for maximum border responses to the events of reforms beyond the things formalism, to go to the essential things. "
He stressed that "the country needs to legislative reforms unite reference laws and the philosophy of the state, based on the constitutional principles that been asked of our people on them, but the Constitution may require adjustments to take into account the past years lessons advantages and disadvantages. "
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... http://ift.tt/1IKOlcn
chattels: all now " former officials " ! ?
chattels: still need a translation on the article
Fit2beFit: Urgent legal expert: Vice infallible and Abadi are former status after approval of the reforms
Fit2beFit: A legal expert said that "as Deputy President Fouad Massoum, Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi, a former became after House approval on government reforms and parliamentary package."
Tariq Harb, said each agency Iraq IGN that "officeholders cancelled became as ex after House approval on Government and parliamentary reform package but originally even before approval once the decision", adding that he "cannot attend these meetings in their constituencies they no longer have a functional or legal basis."
"The House approval on reforms do not need to authenticate to the President of the Republic and cannot be challenged even if they do not achieve any result."
The "authorization of the Prime Minister to dismiss Governors and Presidents and members of local councils are originally from within his constitutional prerogatives, either abolishing the municipal councils are illegal origin and not air impact to career staff for provincial law includes districts and councils, municipal councils was established by former us civil administrator Paul Bremer and Iraqi is not illegal."
Fit2beFit: Legal expert promised approval by Parliament on these reforms "as a reference to the existence of the will and determination to make transitions and apply the Constitution as it stands real away than Shush him political and sectarian quota and they return to exercise constitutional powers, not how you got the vast majority of MPs but Odder ones including the ouster of senior and its abolition".
"These reforms give the impression, that the Prime Minister is determined to achieve it the first Exchange since 2003, an Iraqi decision, all decisions taken are foreign and advice of the United Nations."
Legal expert stressed that "the Prime Minister of reforms is under legal and constitutional prerogatives but until now had not exercised the full powers that article 78 of the Constitution have made Prime Minister directly responsible for implementing State policy and not just government policy namely that an Executive Officer of the public policy in the Parliament and head of State and Government and the State as a whole so that the term [State] includes everything mentioned above.
Fit2beFit: He "approved this constitutional article, it gives the Prime Minister the validity of policy formulation and the adoption of the House as well as for the Presidency of the State include all these authorities".
The Iraqi Parliament was approved unanimously on an initial package of governmental and parliamentary reforms including several resolutions notably reduce expenses and cancellation of senior officials and fight corruption and the adoption of important laws, including the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic and the Prime Minister immediately finished 16
Fit2beFit: -------------------------------anytime
Donnie: This seems a little diff translation.
Donnie: Urgent legal expert: Vice-Abadi become infallible and as former after the approval of the reforms
Donnie: [Baghdad-where] legal expert said the "recipe vice president Fuad Masum, and the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, has become a precedent after the House of Representatives approval of the government and parliamentary reforms package."
Said Tariq Harb told all of Iraq [where] that "the positions of canceled owners are in former after the House of Representatives approval of the government and parliamentary reforms package but originally even before approval and as soon as the resolution,"
he said, adding that he "can not they come to official meetings in their constituencies because they no longer having the capacity of functional or legal. " He added that "the House of Representatives approve the reforms do not need to President of the Republic authentication is not entitled to object to them and even if it they do not achieve any result."
Donnie: never mind.... seems close enough
Fit2beFit: I think they are gonna put up a little fight, but in the end this time, there are just too many now against them
chattels: wealthwatch.world/newthre... http://ift.tt/1IRI51o
chattels: Translation courtesy of Fit2beFit :)
Donnie: The Prime Minister directs integrity lifting of the names of the defendants of stealing public money and squatters on state property to eliminate
Donnie: 11/08/2015 18:00 Mr. Prime Minister, the face of the Integrity Commission to raise issues relating to the names of the defendants of stealing public money and overtaking on the property of the state and the people to prevent them from traveling and bring them to justice
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiN4R
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1BNbkWF...
http://ift.tt/1NaiKWQ
chattels: there remain some constitutional issues
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiKWS
chattels: interestingly Visser refers to Harb as a " former " legal advisor to Maliki
chattels: actually " one time " advisor
chattels: " I find myself fighting a strong gag reflex when I read these pundits saying, AGAIN, how close we are with the advent of the reforms. Speaking as thought all of this was anticipated by them. How can we have been so close before the reforms and now close because of the reforms. Both cannot be true, IMO. I think I will just regurgitate right now and get it over with."
BOBBY: Chattels. ... i believe there is a new level of crap being spewed
Fit2beFit: So Close, reminds of XXXX statements starting back in November
chattels: I call it " reactionary intel "
nobody: i offer nothing
chattels: goes hand in hand with my peseudointellectualism
chattels: pseudo intellectualism *
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... easy now
chattels: Mahmood and his ilk are threatening gentlemen judges who fail to attend a meeting ((Allegiance to Mahmoud)) doom and destruction
chattels: thejusticenews.com/ http://ift.tt/1IKOo7S
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Once upon a time, .................. and they all lived happily ever after. :)
BOBBY: Chattels....... i love that one!!!!!!! especially the part about the contract rate
chattels: 8-11-15 Iraq Media Network: Abadi directed to prevent the defendants of stealing public money to travel and bring them to eliminate.
The face of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi preventing the defendants of stealing public money to travel abroad and bring them to justice.
A statement by his office said Abadi “face, on Tuesday, the Integrity Commission, the lifting of the names of the defendants of stealing public money and overtaking on the state and people’s property, to prevent them from traveling and bring them to justice.”
The House of Representatives vote this morning on the packs, governmental and parliamentary reforms included a focus on the past and present open the files of corruption and the fight against corruption in response to the directives of the Supreme religious authority and the demands of the demonstrators. http://ift.tt/1IKOmwO... http://ift.tt/1NaiLd6
chattels: After the vote, Jubouri’s spokesman, Imad al-Khafaji, described it as a “historic moment” for the country. “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,” he said. Khafaji said that if individuals object to the reforms, they can make a case in the courts. http://ift.tt/Q9nGS1... LINK
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: “We now should make an effort to create the Iraq that Iraqis have been dreaming of since 2003,”
chattels: I HOPE THAT OUR DREAM OF AN INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENCY IS A PART OF IT.
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› DOES YOUR CHAT MONIKER BESPEAK SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH EXERCISE / FITNESS ?
chattels: Rosenthal strikes out the side in the ninth to save the Cardinals win over Pittsburgh
Fit2beFit: Yes I own a yoga training center
chattels: What part of the country are you ?
Fit2beFit: West Coast
BOBBY: Fit2beFit..... your thoughts on cigars lol
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
Fit2beFit: :tongue:
BOBBY: lol
Fit2beFit: Cigars require Terminix after using....loll.
BOBBY: easy now ..... lol
Fit2beFit: http://ift.tt/1IKOmwQ...
Fit2beFit: lolololololol
Fit2beFit: ON that note, have a relaxing good night all :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
chattels: Abadi was among the reforms and the resignation and choose the best option
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1NaiN4Z
chattels: He has chosen the path of reform, but that path is not without problems.
chattels: "the Council of Ministers defended the Prime Minister option, and we explained the reasons for this, namely, that the prime minister will be free to choose between the survival of the situation for what it is, or to provide his resignation and therefore the government considered resigned and turned to the caretaker government, or to take this step which is much better than any other option. "
chattels: "The question now is, do these measures will lead to the achievement of the aspirations of our people or to start the movement of successive reforms, meet at least, in finish with the reasons that launched this movement, according to the religious authority directives and demands of the masses,
and the answer is yes, but the conditions, these steps will launch the movement and momentum must Asttmra positive for maximum border responses to the events of reforms beyond the things formalism, to go to the essential things. "
He stressed that "the country needs to legislative reforms unite reference laws and the philosophy of the state, based on the constitutional principles that been asked of our people on them, but the Constitution may require adjustments to take into account the past years lessons advantages and disadvantages. "
chattels: " ......... the Constitution may require adjustments ................ "
chattels: I believe that what is revealed here is that Abadi had a choice / option to dissolve his government and enter into a caretaker government awaiting new elections or to take the path of reform which has some attendant constitutional issues. We shall see what the next thirty days bring for Iraq and us.
chattels: This is " unplowed ground " for Iraq.
Donnie: sleep well - we may be very busy (too excited to sleep) come 30 days from now :)
chattels: Article 126: First: The President of the Republic and the Council of the Ministers collectively, or one-fifth of the Council of Representatives members, may propose to amend the Constitution. Second:
The fundamental principles mentioned in Section One and the rights and liberties mentioned in Section Two of the Constitution may not be amended except after two successive electoral terms, with the approval of two-thirds of the members of the Council of Representatives, the approval of the people in a general referendum, and the ratification by the President of the Republic within seven days.
chattels: A little " yin " and a little " yang " make for a balanced perspective.
chattels: " Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
chattels: We all see through a glass darkly, we do not have all the facts and our perspective is clouded by many things. What they want us to hear / see and what we want to hear and believe.
chattels: This is not an exact science.
chattels: We are part of a great experiment that is government in and of Iraq.
chattels: " If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,.........................: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; .............................Yours is the earth and everything that's in it......." - R. Kipling
chattels: Godspeed the completion of the Iraqi banking sector reform project. Fight the good fight, holding on to faith and good conscience.God bless us everyone.
chattels: Good night all and to all a good night.
chattels: I believe that what is revealed here is that Abadi had a choice / option to dissolve his government and enter into a caretaker government awaiting new elections or to take the path of reform which has some attendant constitutional issues. We shall see what the next thirty days bring for Iraq and us.
chattels: This is " unplowed ground " for Iraq.
Donnie: sleep well - we may be very busy (too excited to sleep) come 30 days from now :)
chattels: Article 126: First: The President of the Republic and the Council of the Ministers collectively, or one-fifth of the Council of Representatives members, may propose to amend the Constitution. Second:
The fundamental principles mentioned in Section One and the rights and liberties mentioned in Section Two of the Constitution may not be amended except after two successive electoral terms, with the approval of two-thirds of the members of the Council of Representatives, the approval of the people in a general referendum, and the ratification by the President of the Republic within seven days.
chattels: A little " yin " and a little " yang " make for a balanced perspective.
chattels: " Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
chattels: We all see through a glass darkly, we do not have all the facts and our perspective is clouded by many things. What they want us to hear / see and what we want to hear and believe.
chattels: This is not an exact science.
chattels: We are part of a great experiment that is government in and of Iraq.
chattels: " If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,.........................: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; .............................Yours is the earth and everything that's in it......." - R. Kipling
chattels: Godspeed the completion of the Iraqi banking sector reform project. Fight the good fight, holding on to faith and good conscience.God bless us everyone.
chattels: Good night all and to all a good night.
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