Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-22-15
Wealthwatch Afternoon OOTW Chat 8-22-15 Part 2 of 2
OOTW: YES IT'S WISE AT TIMES TO BE SKEPTICAL, ONLY IN SO MUCH THAT COMING FROM THE PLATFORM LENDS YOU THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE INFORMATION CRITICALLY,
BUT THIS MUST ALSO BE BALANCED WITH A MIND THAT WHAT WE GIVE OUR MENTAL ENERGY TO, IS OFTEN TIMES WHAT WE END UP SEEING CREATED OR ARE PUSHED TO FOCUS ON, WHICH CAN BE NEGATIVE
Donnie: Saying we need reform is easy - but at what level? Change garbage pickup from Tuesday to Thursday? Get the corrupt out of the GOI? Or complete monetary reform.
OOTW: AND THEREFORE THE CYCLE CONTINUES TO REPEAT ITSELF
OOTW: AND SO IF ONE ONLY THINKS THAT NEGATIVE OUTCOMES WILL ENSUE IN LIFE, THEN EVERYTHING BECOMES A SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY AND SO YOU SEE NEGATIVE OUTCOMES
AND SO NEGATIVE OUTCOMES ARE CREATED AND THEREFORE YOU ONLY HAVE REINFORCEMENT FOR NEGATIVE OUTCOMES, A CONSTANT CATCH 22 –
SO IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUSH PAST THIS AND ENVISION POSITIVE OUTCOMES IN ORDER TO HELP CREATE THEM
~~~
Wealthwatch Afternoon OOTW Chat 8-22-15 Part 2 of 2
OOTW: YES IT'S WISE AT TIMES TO BE SKEPTICAL, ONLY IN SO MUCH THAT COMING FROM THE PLATFORM LENDS YOU THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE INFORMATION CRITICALLY,
BUT THIS MUST ALSO BE BALANCED WITH A MIND THAT WHAT WE GIVE OUR MENTAL ENERGY TO, IS OFTEN TIMES WHAT WE END UP SEEING CREATED OR ARE PUSHED TO FOCUS ON, WHICH CAN BE NEGATIVE
Donnie: Saying we need reform is easy - but at what level? Change garbage pickup from Tuesday to Thursday? Get the corrupt out of the GOI? Or complete monetary reform.
OOTW: AND THEREFORE THE CYCLE CONTINUES TO REPEAT ITSELF
OOTW: AND SO IF ONE ONLY THINKS THAT NEGATIVE OUTCOMES WILL ENSUE IN LIFE, THEN EVERYTHING BECOMES A SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY AND SO YOU SEE NEGATIVE OUTCOMES
AND SO NEGATIVE OUTCOMES ARE CREATED AND THEREFORE YOU ONLY HAVE REINFORCEMENT FOR NEGATIVE OUTCOMES, A CONSTANT CATCH 22 –
SO IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUSH PAST THIS AND ENVISION POSITIVE OUTCOMES IN ORDER TO HELP CREATE THEM
~~~
chattels: ‹@OOTW› I DOUBT OR AT LEAST HOPE THAT MY SKEPTICAL VIEW IS NOT INFLUENTIAL UPON THE COURSE OF EVENTS IN IRAQ
OOTW: WHEN ONE PRAYS AND TRUSTS THAT THEIR PRAYERS FOR POSITIVE CHANGE, ETC, THEY ARE ENTRUSTING GOD THROUGH FAITH THAT THEIR PRAYERS WILL BE ANSWERED AND DON'T MANY OFTEN TIMES FIND THAT DOING THIS/PRAYING FOR A POSITIVE OUTCOME, DOES ACTUALLY MANIFEST?
OOTW: ITS CALLED FAITH
OOTW: ENERGY IS ENERGY..THOUGHTS ARE ENERGY
OOTW: ALL THINGS ARE MADE UP OF ENERGY
OOTW: WHAT YOU LEND ENERGY TO, IS WHERE IT GOES
OOTW: NO MATTER HOW LARGE OR SMALL THE INFLUENCE
Donnie: ‹@OOTW› agreed
OOTW: I AM NOT CRITICIZING YOU IN PARTICULAR AT ALL, I'M SIMPLY ADMONISHING US TO CONSIDER WHAT WE THINK ABOUT
Donnie: BBL - off to church to focus some energy
OOTW: DONNIE LOL..HUGS HONEY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO..I'M VERY GRATEFUL
OOTW: AND TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES HERE
OOTW: HUGS
Donnie: Catholic
chattels: ‹@OOTW› I AM A BELIEVER BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE GOD DOES NOT ROUTINELY INTERFERE IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN - HIS SPIRIT MAY CONSOLE US, BUT MIRACLES ARE NOT SO PREVALENT FOR ME
Doug_W: <<aLTAR BOY
chattels: GO IN PEACE ALL
Donnie: <--- was also for many years - now the kids do it
OOTW: THAT IS TRUE CHATTELS..HUMAN WILL OVER RIDES GOD THIS HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US - OUR CHOICE
Donnie: TY for your insight - i truely enjoy reading the other point of view
OOTW: AND THE OUTCOMES WE MUST LIVE WITH, AS RESULT OF US IMPOSING OUR WILL
Donnie: ‹@chattels› that was for you
chattels: ‹@Donnie› TY :)
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / face Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi application of the unified pension law at all Referred officials to retire like other retired state employees without additional privileges.,
Said Ebadi's office said in a statement today that the Prime Minister face "the application of the unified pension law at all Referred officials retirement like other retired state employees without additional privileges and their pensions represent a fraction of what they get now.
"He stressed that" no truth to be published of those responsible for 80% of their current salaries ".
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1EaQhy2
chattels: THE FOREGOING MAY BE ABADI'S WAY OF REMOVING MEDHAT WITHOUT IT BEING " PERSONAL "
chattels: WE SHALL SEE
OOTW: YES WE SHALL, BUT I DO BELIEVE MAHMOUD WILL RELATIVELY SOON BE GONE
OOTW: It instructed the Ministry of Finance to the competent banks and relevant departments at the ministry's headquarters (Legal Department) quickly accomplish the employees of the pay of self-financing companies immediately and prepared controls and mechanisms simplified for disbursement through the development of specific timing does not exceed the (6) days
only with the need to adhere to the regulations and instructions issued in this particular and coordination between the Ministries of employees of those companies and banks concerned
to avoid any delay might happen in the disbursement of salaries has been committed and that the Ministry of Finance and its departments are working so immediately. OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr
http://ift.tt/1Job8tG
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / suggested the head of the Virtue Ammar Tohme to take over associations and non-participation in the government regulatory agencies officials nomination to ensure the independence and stay away from political polarization process. and his office said in a statement today,
it said Tohme received deputy representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations in Iraq Georgi Posten and Search his evaluation of governmental and parliamentary reforms and ways to ensure the completion and implementation, especially that some of the reforms require legislation laws depends approval on the backing of political forces and parliamentary blocs.
OOTW: I POSTED AN ARTICLE TWO DAYS AGO STATING THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS STATED THAT THE CUSTOMS/TARIFFS ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH,
BECAUSE THEY'RE A NECESSITY TO GENERATE REVENUE VIA THE PRIVATE SECTOR - AND IN TURN PROMOTE PRIVATE SECTOR GROWTH
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1EaQeSV
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / accused the parliamentary finance committee member Majda al-Tamimi and Electricity Minister Qassim Fahdawi to spend the investment plan allocations to buy luxuries instead of saving electricity. chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1Job8tI
OOTW: AND TODAY ANOTHER ARTICLE HAS COME OUT CONFIRMING THIS
OOTW: THIS IS FROM OUR MEMBER JD BLUE
OOTW: Deputy: we refuse to stop the work of customs tariff Fri Aug 21 2015 08:45 | (Voice of Iraq) - Baghdad It refused to economic and investment commission in Parliament, to stop the work of customs tariff, as pointed out that activated Cedar money and stimulating the economy. "
A member of the committee MP Ali Mohammed told JD: "There are demands by some quarters to postpone the work of customs tariff," noting that "the law has been postponed since 2010 has been activated with the beginning of the month of the current year."
"We categorically reject and postpone work this time for the Law of the customs tariff because it is one of the important economic laws of the country, because he Seder big money of the state and stimulating the economy."
He noted that "activating the investment law will attract investors and will have a significant role in supporting the Iraqi private sector." http://ift.tt/1SCRTC5...
http://ift.tt/1MDSXpd
EdoBini: The Iraqi currency has to be International to make tariff meaningful and applicable.
OOTW: REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COST OF GOODS ARE, VS THE PERCENTAGE PAID TOWARDS TARIFFS - THE POINT REMAINS THAT THE PEOPLE NEED INCREASED BUYING POWER,
SO IN EFFECT, YES , EDOBINI, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING APPLIES, IN SO MUCH THAT, THERE'S NO POINT TO PAYING TARIFF'S IF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THEM,
UNTIL THEY GET BUYING POWER, PEOPLE WILL DO ALL THEY CAN TO GO WITHOUT OR LIVE OFF THE LAND FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE
EdoBini: OOTW.>>> your intellect is amazing.. Exactly what l meant. Thank you for what you share with us here and beyond.
chattels: Tom finally decided to tie the knot with his longtime girlfriend. One evening, after the honeymoon, he was cleaning one of his cars for an upcoming show. His wife was standing there at the bench watching him. After a long period of silence she finally speaks.
chattels: “Honey, I’ve been thinking, now that we are married, maybe it’s time you quit spending all your time out here in the garage and you should consider selling your cars and your gun collection.”
chattels: Tom gets a horrified look on his face. She says, “Darling, what’s wrong?” “There for a minute you were starting to sound like my ex-wife.”
chattels: “Ex wife!”, she screams, “YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED BEFORE!!!!!!!”
chattels: Tom’s reply: “I wasn’t”. :)
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› your right and it also puts pressure on parlemnt to get things done so they can raise the value of the dinar so it is all working
OOTW: ‹@EdoBini› TAKES ONE....
OOTW: WHITELIONS WE CAN HOPE
OOTW: WHEN ONE PRAYS AND TRUSTS THAT THEIR PRAYERS FOR POSITIVE CHANGE, ETC, THEY ARE ENTRUSTING GOD THROUGH FAITH THAT THEIR PRAYERS WILL BE ANSWERED AND DON'T MANY OFTEN TIMES FIND THAT DOING THIS/PRAYING FOR A POSITIVE OUTCOME, DOES ACTUALLY MANIFEST?
OOTW: ITS CALLED FAITH
OOTW: ENERGY IS ENERGY..THOUGHTS ARE ENERGY
OOTW: ALL THINGS ARE MADE UP OF ENERGY
OOTW: WHAT YOU LEND ENERGY TO, IS WHERE IT GOES
OOTW: NO MATTER HOW LARGE OR SMALL THE INFLUENCE
Donnie: ‹@OOTW› agreed
OOTW: I AM NOT CRITICIZING YOU IN PARTICULAR AT ALL, I'M SIMPLY ADMONISHING US TO CONSIDER WHAT WE THINK ABOUT
Donnie: BBL - off to church to focus some energy
OOTW: DONNIE LOL..HUGS HONEY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO..I'M VERY GRATEFUL
OOTW: AND TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES HERE
OOTW: HUGS
Donnie: Catholic
chattels: ‹@OOTW› I AM A BELIEVER BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE GOD DOES NOT ROUTINELY INTERFERE IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN - HIS SPIRIT MAY CONSOLE US, BUT MIRACLES ARE NOT SO PREVALENT FOR ME
Doug_W: <<aLTAR BOY
chattels: GO IN PEACE ALL
Donnie: <--- was also for many years - now the kids do it
OOTW: THAT IS TRUE CHATTELS..HUMAN WILL OVER RIDES GOD THIS HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US - OUR CHOICE
Donnie: TY for your insight - i truely enjoy reading the other point of view
OOTW: AND THE OUTCOMES WE MUST LIVE WITH, AS RESULT OF US IMPOSING OUR WILL
Donnie: ‹@chattels› that was for you
chattels: ‹@Donnie› TY :)
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / face Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi application of the unified pension law at all Referred officials to retire like other retired state employees without additional privileges.,
Said Ebadi's office said in a statement today that the Prime Minister face "the application of the unified pension law at all Referred officials retirement like other retired state employees without additional privileges and their pensions represent a fraction of what they get now.
"He stressed that" no truth to be published of those responsible for 80% of their current salaries ".
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1EaQhy2
chattels: THE FOREGOING MAY BE ABADI'S WAY OF REMOVING MEDHAT WITHOUT IT BEING " PERSONAL "
chattels: WE SHALL SEE
OOTW: YES WE SHALL, BUT I DO BELIEVE MAHMOUD WILL RELATIVELY SOON BE GONE
OOTW: It instructed the Ministry of Finance to the competent banks and relevant departments at the ministry's headquarters (Legal Department) quickly accomplish the employees of the pay of self-financing companies immediately and prepared controls and mechanisms simplified for disbursement through the development of specific timing does not exceed the (6) days
only with the need to adhere to the regulations and instructions issued in this particular and coordination between the Ministries of employees of those companies and banks concerned
to avoid any delay might happen in the disbursement of salaries has been committed and that the Ministry of Finance and its departments are working so immediately. OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr
http://ift.tt/1Job8tG
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / suggested the head of the Virtue Ammar Tohme to take over associations and non-participation in the government regulatory agencies officials nomination to ensure the independence and stay away from political polarization process. and his office said in a statement today,
it said Tohme received deputy representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations in Iraq Georgi Posten and Search his evaluation of governmental and parliamentary reforms and ways to ensure the completion and implementation, especially that some of the reforms require legislation laws depends approval on the backing of political forces and parliamentary blocs.
OOTW: I POSTED AN ARTICLE TWO DAYS AGO STATING THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS STATED THAT THE CUSTOMS/TARIFFS ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH,
BECAUSE THEY'RE A NECESSITY TO GENERATE REVENUE VIA THE PRIVATE SECTOR - AND IN TURN PROMOTE PRIVATE SECTOR GROWTH
chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1EaQeSV
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / accused the parliamentary finance committee member Majda al-Tamimi and Electricity Minister Qassim Fahdawi to spend the investment plan allocations to buy luxuries instead of saving electricity. chattels: http://ift.tt/1NDueAj...
http://ift.tt/1Job8tI
OOTW: AND TODAY ANOTHER ARTICLE HAS COME OUT CONFIRMING THIS
OOTW: THIS IS FROM OUR MEMBER JD BLUE
OOTW: Deputy: we refuse to stop the work of customs tariff Fri Aug 21 2015 08:45 | (Voice of Iraq) - Baghdad It refused to economic and investment commission in Parliament, to stop the work of customs tariff, as pointed out that activated Cedar money and stimulating the economy. "
A member of the committee MP Ali Mohammed told JD: "There are demands by some quarters to postpone the work of customs tariff," noting that "the law has been postponed since 2010 has been activated with the beginning of the month of the current year."
"We categorically reject and postpone work this time for the Law of the customs tariff because it is one of the important economic laws of the country, because he Seder big money of the state and stimulating the economy."
He noted that "activating the investment law will attract investors and will have a significant role in supporting the Iraqi private sector." http://ift.tt/1SCRTC5...
http://ift.tt/1MDSXpd
EdoBini: The Iraqi currency has to be International to make tariff meaningful and applicable.
OOTW: REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COST OF GOODS ARE, VS THE PERCENTAGE PAID TOWARDS TARIFFS - THE POINT REMAINS THAT THE PEOPLE NEED INCREASED BUYING POWER,
SO IN EFFECT, YES , EDOBINI, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING APPLIES, IN SO MUCH THAT, THERE'S NO POINT TO PAYING TARIFF'S IF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THEM,
UNTIL THEY GET BUYING POWER, PEOPLE WILL DO ALL THEY CAN TO GO WITHOUT OR LIVE OFF THE LAND FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE
EdoBini: OOTW.>>> your intellect is amazing.. Exactly what l meant. Thank you for what you share with us here and beyond.
chattels: Tom finally decided to tie the knot with his longtime girlfriend. One evening, after the honeymoon, he was cleaning one of his cars for an upcoming show. His wife was standing there at the bench watching him. After a long period of silence she finally speaks.
chattels: “Honey, I’ve been thinking, now that we are married, maybe it’s time you quit spending all your time out here in the garage and you should consider selling your cars and your gun collection.”
chattels: Tom gets a horrified look on his face. She says, “Darling, what’s wrong?” “There for a minute you were starting to sound like my ex-wife.”
chattels: “Ex wife!”, she screams, “YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED BEFORE!!!!!!!”
chattels: Tom’s reply: “I wasn’t”. :)
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› your right and it also puts pressure on parlemnt to get things done so they can raise the value of the dinar so it is all working
OOTW: ‹@EdoBini› TAKES ONE....
OOTW: WHITELIONS WE CAN HOPE
OOTW: THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT IS FILLED WITH ARROGANCE AND PRIDE THEY ARE NOT EVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY "SHOULD"
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› hope heck there no reason to hope just nerve enough to wait lol
OOTW: LOL
OOTW: THEY HAVE TO BE COERCED AND RIGHT NOW THE AID THEY RECEIVE FOR THE WAR ON TERROR IS WHAT WILL FORCE THEM - ALSO INTERNATIONAL LOANS, AID ETC
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› you can say that but thry are weeding out in a hurry now and the ones that are left better eat their pried or lose it all
OOTW: AND EVEN THIS, IMHO, HOLDS CONTENTION - IN THEIR WAY OF SEEING THINGS
OOTW: TRUE - THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, LET'S SEE IF THEY DO THIS
EdoBini: Pride and arrogance cometh before a fall
whitelions: yep
whitelions: A change of government "expected" topples new ministers and reduce the number of ministries to 19 translate.googleuserconte...
http://ift.tt/1JobaSr
EdoBini: How we wish the IMF has the capacity to impose the rate on them laterally.
OOTW: WELL IN DREAMLAND, YES, EDOBINI, BUT REMEMBER THEY CHOOSE THEIR EXCHANGE REGIME - BUT STILL HAVE TO ENACT THE PLATFORMS THE IMF WANTS TO SEE...ONE EXAMPLE, VISIBLE BANKING
EdoBini: l should have thought that they have installed their XBRL system according to what they announced the other day.
OOTW: ALL I CAN SAY TO THAT IS THAT THE DEADLINE TENDER APPLICATION DATE WAS LISTED AS 08-23-2015 OOTW: OR TODAY
OOTW: I REMEMBER IT WAS THE THIRD WEEK IN AUGUST
OOTW: HOPEFULLY THEY'VE HIRED THE APPROPRIATE BIDDER
EdoBini: Yes, It was reported here with a Link that their newly installed system placed their CBI as one of the best technologically advanced systems in the World. especially when it is combined with Swift which are already suing.
OOTW: AGREED AND THE UN IS HELPING THEM SET THIS UP
EdoBini: they are already using
EdoBini: Agreed with you completely, the IMF demands this requirement from them before any Rate increase. Thank you so much for this healthy discussions.
OOTW: THANK YOU EDOBINI...I CAN ONLY DISCUSS ASPECTS WHEN OTHERS OPEN THEMSELVES TO THE DISCUSSIONS - IT TAKES TWO OR MORE LOL
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› hope heck there no reason to hope just nerve enough to wait lol
OOTW: LOL
OOTW: THEY HAVE TO BE COERCED AND RIGHT NOW THE AID THEY RECEIVE FOR THE WAR ON TERROR IS WHAT WILL FORCE THEM - ALSO INTERNATIONAL LOANS, AID ETC
whitelions: ‹@OOTW› you can say that but thry are weeding out in a hurry now and the ones that are left better eat their pried or lose it all
OOTW: AND EVEN THIS, IMHO, HOLDS CONTENTION - IN THEIR WAY OF SEEING THINGS
OOTW: TRUE - THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, LET'S SEE IF THEY DO THIS
EdoBini: Pride and arrogance cometh before a fall
whitelions: yep
whitelions: A change of government "expected" topples new ministers and reduce the number of ministries to 19 translate.googleuserconte...
http://ift.tt/1JobaSr
EdoBini: How we wish the IMF has the capacity to impose the rate on them laterally.
OOTW: WELL IN DREAMLAND, YES, EDOBINI, BUT REMEMBER THEY CHOOSE THEIR EXCHANGE REGIME - BUT STILL HAVE TO ENACT THE PLATFORMS THE IMF WANTS TO SEE...ONE EXAMPLE, VISIBLE BANKING
EdoBini: l should have thought that they have installed their XBRL system according to what they announced the other day.
OOTW: ALL I CAN SAY TO THAT IS THAT THE DEADLINE TENDER APPLICATION DATE WAS LISTED AS 08-23-2015 OOTW: OR TODAY
OOTW: I REMEMBER IT WAS THE THIRD WEEK IN AUGUST
OOTW: HOPEFULLY THEY'VE HIRED THE APPROPRIATE BIDDER
EdoBini: Yes, It was reported here with a Link that their newly installed system placed their CBI as one of the best technologically advanced systems in the World. especially when it is combined with Swift which are already suing.
OOTW: AGREED AND THE UN IS HELPING THEM SET THIS UP
EdoBini: they are already using
EdoBini: Agreed with you completely, the IMF demands this requirement from them before any Rate increase. Thank you so much for this healthy discussions.
OOTW: THANK YOU EDOBINI...I CAN ONLY DISCUSS ASPECTS WHEN OTHERS OPEN THEMSELVES TO THE DISCUSSIONS - IT TAKES TWO OR MORE LOL
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