Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 9-3-15
Wealthwatch Early Morning Chat 9-3-15 Part 2 of 2
Oneness: iraq is reportedly sending high officials to uk and to usa to talk about international bonds ...selling like 5B or 6B worth
SWSD: who is reporting this?
Oneness: I maintain that they will not send anyone, or, if they do send anyone then all they do is talk, talk, talk, ... no action
Oneness: mountain goat for one ... http://ift.tt/1BNbnBC... ... reports about bond sales ... cites article ... IRAQ DISPLAYS SOVEREIGN BONDS FOR SALE
http://ift.tt/1hAGiri
Oneness: Scheduled to travel a senior government delegation, including ministers, officials and experts in the financial and economic affairs, next week, to the United States and Britain to discuss the issue of Iraq sovereign bonds,
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Wealthwatch Early Morning Chat 9-3-15 Part 2 of 2
Oneness: iraq is reportedly sending high officials to uk and to usa to talk about international bonds ...selling like 5B or 6B worth
SWSD: who is reporting this?
Oneness: I maintain that they will not send anyone, or, if they do send anyone then all they do is talk, talk, talk, ... no action
Oneness: mountain goat for one ... http://ift.tt/1BNbnBC... ... reports about bond sales ... cites article ... IRAQ DISPLAYS SOVEREIGN BONDS FOR SALE
http://ift.tt/1hAGiri
Oneness: Scheduled to travel a senior government delegation, including ministers, officials and experts in the financial and economic affairs, next week, to the United States and Britain to discuss the issue of Iraq sovereign bonds,
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and to explain the ability of the country to fulfill its obligations to investors who Septaon those bonds and Atdaolunha in markets Alaalmih.ocd high-level government source, who preferred anonymity, said in an interview singled out the "morning" that a government delegation will travel next Monday,
accompanied by a credit rating talks team, to the United States and the UK to clarify Iraq's ability to fulfill its obligations to investors who Septaon Sindh Iraqi and international promotion, in a move that serve the welfare of economic reform measures and to maximize state revenues.
SWSD: oh he/she/it is quoting an article...I see
Oneness: yes quoting article
Oneness: I maintain, iraq is stalling, purposely stalling .... for some very dark and nefarious reasons
Oneness: if we bellieve iraq can save us ... then we wont question why china and usa and others makrkets are falling
Oneness: we wont ask the hard questions about ourselves
Oneness: just kepp pie in the sky any day now mentality
Oneness: so ... the question remains
tourman: what is that
Oneness: if iraq does not sell internationally traded bonds on monday , what does it mean to you ? ... are you going to keep on believing everything is going to be ok, just wait until the 15th or 30th .... .... or ... are you going to say " “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” and start stockpiling three months supply of food ... ?
tourman: i dont deal with doomsayers, preppers or what ever. paranoia gets you no where. if everyone believed that life is not worth living on a daily basis because you think that the government is out to get you, you have some real issues to deal with.
Oneness: deal with facts then
tourman: Give up the facts then
Oneness: greece shut its banks for awhile
Oneness: puerto rico is in default
tourman: because the people of that country wanted handouts they could not afford. pockets ran dry.. pay the piper.
tourman: P.R. bad management of their coffers. no conspiracy there
Oneness: it is not a conspiracy to say ... the usd is not backed by gold or silver ... it simply is a fact
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› I see your a maliki believer lol
Stash: I am a Maliki believer, I believe he should be hung.
tourman: as i said, i dont deal with conspiracy, so yes you are right, the USD is not backed by gold or silver... I was alive when Nixon removed the USD from the backing of the gold standard. The USD was never backed by silver anyway.
whitelions: or I should say supporter
Fit2beFit: USD is backed by oil
Oneness: not really interested in politics
whitelions: because everthing you are trying to get us to believe he has been spewing for years to keep the iraq people in line
tourman: Oil is backed by USD not the other way around.
tourman: nothing backing up the USD right now accept air!
Oneness: agreed ... tourman ... ty
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› lmao...ok
tourman: except^
whitelions: ‹@tourman› thats may be so iyo but what dose it have to do with the iraq dinar ?
Oneness: oct 1 ... iraqi dinar blacklisted
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› and your point is ?
tourman: I was responding to Fit2beFit statement, I said nothing about the dinar...
whitelions: ‹@tourman› O sorry my bad
Oneness: so ... i maintain ... iraq is intentionally stalling ... waiting to oct 1
tourman: SOK :smile:
tourman: In the end we shall see who's "opinion" was the closest.
Fit2beFit: oil is not backed by anything, and never has been
whitelions: ‹@tourman› I should know better I got caught up in oneness up chuck
tourman: The petro dollar is what is backing oil... And what currency is that? Petro dollar will be a thing of the past anyway.
Oneness: so ... whitelions maintains party line ... you going to keep on believing everything is going to be ok, just wait until the 15th or 30th
whitelions: ‹@Fit2beFit› oil has always been backed by the petro dollar witch is USD that could change down the road maybe 100 years or so but you better wish to god it never dose
Fit2beFit: again...nothing backs oil, but oil
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› sorry but, your wrong
Fit2beFit: oil is not backed by anything, petro and others USE oil to back and subise it for many countries
whitelions: wow for those that are young oneness just called me a comie lol
Oneness: oil ... i prefer the term the devils excrement
whitelions: lol
tourman: ‹@Fit2beFit› so your saying oil has no value?
Oneness: value has to be paired
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› so you are saying every country in the world backs oil with the petro?
Oneness: usd/eur
tourman: all oil producing countries us the petro dollar to buy and sell oil...
Oneness: not anymore
Fit2beFit: father, grandfather, 2 uncles, brother, cousins, all in the oil industry, and not the field
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› wrong again
whitelions: ‹@tourman› your right and if people in dinar land do not believe it all thay have to do is google it
tourman: get me some facts them, prove me wrong
Fit2beFit: not ALL countries do, only 70%
tourman: do what?
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› dont need to go research yourself
Oneness: agree with fit2befit
Oneness: only 70% use usd to buy/sell oil
Fit2beFit: correct
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› ‹@Fit2beFit› just telling people that they are wrong and calling them names dose not cut it in dinar land any more what proof do you have and you need to come up with 3 kinds of proof from differnent sources
Fit2beFit: and its going down
tourman: typical response from someone who's words are not backed by presentable facts, sorry..
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› there was no name calling, please be the same
Oneness: oil is what makes the iraqi dinar potentially so powerful
tourman: done! you can finish arguing by yourself..
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› and this is not a proof world is a freedom of speech world
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› your right on that one point but they have other underdeveloped resources that they will mine down the road but for now oil is what keeps them afloat
whitelions: ‹@Fit2beFit› this is a proof world b/c with out it you look like a bafoon
Oneness: i fully believe iraqi dinar will be traded internationally
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› well then i guess it takes one to know one
Oneness: i just question whether or not the west can survive in its current state to see the iraqi dinar trade
whitelions: lol is that the best you have I got out of kindergarten a long time ago lol
Fit2beFit: good for you
whitelions: yep ok have a good one time for me to get some work done
Fit2beFit: take care
Oneness: old news ... yet ... here goes ... "This announcement by China is one of the most significant sea changes in the global economic and monetary systems, but was barely reported on due to its announcement taking place during the Democratic convention last week.
The ramifications of this new action are vast, and could very well be the catalyst that brings down the dollar as the global reserve currency, and change the entire landscape of how the world purchases energy."
accompanied by a credit rating talks team, to the United States and the UK to clarify Iraq's ability to fulfill its obligations to investors who Septaon Sindh Iraqi and international promotion, in a move that serve the welfare of economic reform measures and to maximize state revenues.
SWSD: oh he/she/it is quoting an article...I see
Oneness: yes quoting article
Oneness: I maintain, iraq is stalling, purposely stalling .... for some very dark and nefarious reasons
Oneness: if we bellieve iraq can save us ... then we wont question why china and usa and others makrkets are falling
Oneness: we wont ask the hard questions about ourselves
Oneness: just kepp pie in the sky any day now mentality
Oneness: so ... the question remains
tourman: what is that
Oneness: if iraq does not sell internationally traded bonds on monday , what does it mean to you ? ... are you going to keep on believing everything is going to be ok, just wait until the 15th or 30th .... .... or ... are you going to say " “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” and start stockpiling three months supply of food ... ?
tourman: i dont deal with doomsayers, preppers or what ever. paranoia gets you no where. if everyone believed that life is not worth living on a daily basis because you think that the government is out to get you, you have some real issues to deal with.
Oneness: deal with facts then
tourman: Give up the facts then
Oneness: greece shut its banks for awhile
Oneness: puerto rico is in default
tourman: because the people of that country wanted handouts they could not afford. pockets ran dry.. pay the piper.
tourman: P.R. bad management of their coffers. no conspiracy there
Oneness: it is not a conspiracy to say ... the usd is not backed by gold or silver ... it simply is a fact
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› I see your a maliki believer lol
Stash: I am a Maliki believer, I believe he should be hung.
tourman: as i said, i dont deal with conspiracy, so yes you are right, the USD is not backed by gold or silver... I was alive when Nixon removed the USD from the backing of the gold standard. The USD was never backed by silver anyway.
whitelions: or I should say supporter
Fit2beFit: USD is backed by oil
Oneness: not really interested in politics
whitelions: because everthing you are trying to get us to believe he has been spewing for years to keep the iraq people in line
tourman: Oil is backed by USD not the other way around.
tourman: nothing backing up the USD right now accept air!
Oneness: agreed ... tourman ... ty
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› lmao...ok
tourman: except^
whitelions: ‹@tourman› thats may be so iyo but what dose it have to do with the iraq dinar ?
Oneness: oct 1 ... iraqi dinar blacklisted
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› and your point is ?
tourman: I was responding to Fit2beFit statement, I said nothing about the dinar...
whitelions: ‹@tourman› O sorry my bad
Oneness: so ... i maintain ... iraq is intentionally stalling ... waiting to oct 1
tourman: SOK :smile:
tourman: In the end we shall see who's "opinion" was the closest.
Fit2beFit: oil is not backed by anything, and never has been
whitelions: ‹@tourman› I should know better I got caught up in oneness up chuck
tourman: The petro dollar is what is backing oil... And what currency is that? Petro dollar will be a thing of the past anyway.
Oneness: so ... whitelions maintains party line ... you going to keep on believing everything is going to be ok, just wait until the 15th or 30th
whitelions: ‹@Fit2beFit› oil has always been backed by the petro dollar witch is USD that could change down the road maybe 100 years or so but you better wish to god it never dose
Fit2beFit: again...nothing backs oil, but oil
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› sorry but, your wrong
Fit2beFit: oil is not backed by anything, petro and others USE oil to back and subise it for many countries
whitelions: wow for those that are young oneness just called me a comie lol
Oneness: oil ... i prefer the term the devils excrement
whitelions: lol
tourman: ‹@Fit2beFit› so your saying oil has no value?
Oneness: value has to be paired
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› so you are saying every country in the world backs oil with the petro?
Oneness: usd/eur
tourman: all oil producing countries us the petro dollar to buy and sell oil...
Oneness: not anymore
Fit2beFit: father, grandfather, 2 uncles, brother, cousins, all in the oil industry, and not the field
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› wrong again
whitelions: ‹@tourman› your right and if people in dinar land do not believe it all thay have to do is google it
tourman: get me some facts them, prove me wrong
Fit2beFit: not ALL countries do, only 70%
tourman: do what?
Fit2beFit: ‹@tourman› dont need to go research yourself
Oneness: agree with fit2befit
Oneness: only 70% use usd to buy/sell oil
Fit2beFit: correct
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› ‹@Fit2beFit› just telling people that they are wrong and calling them names dose not cut it in dinar land any more what proof do you have and you need to come up with 3 kinds of proof from differnent sources
Fit2beFit: and its going down
tourman: typical response from someone who's words are not backed by presentable facts, sorry..
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› there was no name calling, please be the same
Oneness: oil is what makes the iraqi dinar potentially so powerful
tourman: done! you can finish arguing by yourself..
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› and this is not a proof world is a freedom of speech world
whitelions: ‹@Oneness› your right on that one point but they have other underdeveloped resources that they will mine down the road but for now oil is what keeps them afloat
whitelions: ‹@Fit2beFit› this is a proof world b/c with out it you look like a bafoon
Oneness: i fully believe iraqi dinar will be traded internationally
Fit2beFit: ‹@whitelions› well then i guess it takes one to know one
Oneness: i just question whether or not the west can survive in its current state to see the iraqi dinar trade
whitelions: lol is that the best you have I got out of kindergarten a long time ago lol
Fit2beFit: good for you
whitelions: yep ok have a good one time for me to get some work done
Fit2beFit: take care
Oneness: old news ... yet ... here goes ... "This announcement by China is one of the most significant sea changes in the global economic and monetary systems, but was barely reported on due to its announcement taking place during the Democratic convention last week.
The ramifications of this new action are vast, and could very well be the catalyst that brings down the dollar as the global reserve currency, and change the entire landscape of how the world purchases energy."
Oneness: Dollar no longer primary oil currency as China begins to sell oil using Yuan ... September 12, 2012 .... http://ift.tt/16Xs500...
http://ift.tt/QHjNjo
Oneness: so ... again ... is iraq stalling ... purposely stalling ...
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 2h2 hours ago Reidar Visser retweeted KRG-MNR In sign of continuing conflict, KRG contribution to Iraq govt oil sales continues to fall, down from 70K bpd in July
chattels: http://twitter.com/MNRKurdistan/...
https://twitter.com/MNRKurdistan/status/639378902272593920
Oneness: @chattels ... doesn't surprise me ... does it surprise you ?
chattels: ‹@Oneness› not really
chattels: Najaf (AIN) –Najaf Provincial Council has chosen in its exceptional session on Thursday the deputy of the PC of Law bloc Luay al-Yasiri as a new Najaf Governor instead of the former one Adnan al-Zurfi.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1RmeaU6...
http://ift.tt/1NcGGtG
chattels: Nuri al-Maliki’s ally Adnan al-Zurfi has finally assumed the governorship of Najaf, after initial attempts by the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq (ISCI) to mount a legal challenge to his candidacy
chattels: gulfanalysis.wordpress.co...
http://ift.tt/1VzdNJQ
chattels: Appears to be " neutral shift " in Najaf
chattels: Maliki is the SLC
[09:34:35 AM] Oneness: When Mebane Faber talks, people listen. ... http://ift.tt/1NcGGtI;
http://ift.tt/1L6T6xm
Oneness: marketwatch article reports about two different viewpoints ... Faber Faber tweeted "... 100% in cash & bonds.” This has happened less than 7% of the time in the past, he said. “Last time? 2008/2009.” and the reporter viewpoint "I’m not going to follow his model"
Doug_W: since I am not in teh stock market ....
Oneness: yes, neither am i
Oneness: it is just interesting ... two viewpoints ... both in some since extremist
http://ift.tt/QHjNjo
Oneness: so ... again ... is iraq stalling ... purposely stalling ...
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 2h2 hours ago Reidar Visser retweeted KRG-MNR In sign of continuing conflict, KRG contribution to Iraq govt oil sales continues to fall, down from 70K bpd in July
chattels: http://twitter.com/MNRKurdistan/...
https://twitter.com/MNRKurdistan/status/639378902272593920
Oneness: @chattels ... doesn't surprise me ... does it surprise you ?
chattels: ‹@Oneness› not really
chattels: Najaf (AIN) –Najaf Provincial Council has chosen in its exceptional session on Thursday the deputy of the PC of Law bloc Luay al-Yasiri as a new Najaf Governor instead of the former one Adnan al-Zurfi.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1RmeaU6...
http://ift.tt/1NcGGtG
chattels: Nuri al-Maliki’s ally Adnan al-Zurfi has finally assumed the governorship of Najaf, after initial attempts by the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq (ISCI) to mount a legal challenge to his candidacy
chattels: gulfanalysis.wordpress.co...
http://ift.tt/1VzdNJQ
chattels: Appears to be " neutral shift " in Najaf
chattels: Maliki is the SLC
[09:34:35 AM] Oneness: When Mebane Faber talks, people listen. ... http://ift.tt/1NcGGtI;
http://ift.tt/1L6T6xm
Oneness: marketwatch article reports about two different viewpoints ... Faber Faber tweeted "... 100% in cash & bonds.” This has happened less than 7% of the time in the past, he said. “Last time? 2008/2009.” and the reporter viewpoint "I’m not going to follow his model"
Doug_W: since I am not in teh stock market ....
Oneness: yes, neither am i
Oneness: it is just interesting ... two viewpoints ... both in some since extremist
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