Post From wealthwatch.world Chat Room 7-5-15 Sczin11 - Chattels & OOTW
Early Afternoon til Late Afternoon Part 1 of 2
sczin11: GOOOOOOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY HOPE ALL ARE WELL
chattels: ‹@sczin11› wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NH4iU3
sczin11: ‹@chattels› TY..MAY MOVE TO OTHER CAT...LEFT IT UP TO OOTW
chattels: ‹@sczin11› all good
sczin11: I HOPE YOU ALL ARE TAKING THIS OFF TIME, TO NAVIGATE THE FORUM....THERE IS LOTS OF INFORMATION FROM THIS PAST WEEK...MUCH HAS HAPPENED IN PARLIAMENT...
ACCUSATIONS OF CORRUPTION BEING MADE AGAINST THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM ..
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Early Afternoon til Late Afternoon Part 1 of 2
sczin11: GOOOOOOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY HOPE ALL ARE WELL
chattels: ‹@sczin11› wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NH4iU3
sczin11: ‹@chattels› TY..MAY MOVE TO OTHER CAT...LEFT IT UP TO OOTW
chattels: ‹@sczin11› all good
sczin11: I HOPE YOU ALL ARE TAKING THIS OFF TIME, TO NAVIGATE THE FORUM....THERE IS LOTS OF INFORMATION FROM THIS PAST WEEK...MUCH HAS HAPPENED IN PARLIAMENT...
ACCUSATIONS OF CORRUPTION BEING MADE AGAINST THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM ..
~~~
MALIKI BEING BROUGHT TO TRIAL IS RAMPANT...
POLITICAL BLOKS BEING THREATENED TO COME TO MUTUAL CONSENSUS, OR WATCH THE AUTHORITY BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU...
sczin11: THE DINAR IS UP, THE DINAR IS DOWN....PVT SECTOR IS LAUNCHED...
sczin11: LOANS APPROVED FOR DISTRIBUTION TO PVT SECTOR
sczin11: GOVERNMENT ENTERTAINING OFFERS FROM GLOBAL TRADE PARTNERS FOR WORK ON CREDIT....YET ALL OF A SUDDEN, FC SAYS NO MORE CREDIT..CAUSED MANY DIFF PROBLEMS
sczin11: CBI CAN NOT CONTROL/STABILIZE THE EXCHANGE RATE OF THE DINAR
sczin11: CBI HAS NOT FUNDED THE BUDGET
sczin11: PROVINCES DEMANDING THE CONTROL OF CERTAIN MINISTRIES TO BE GIVEN TO THEM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVT
NearTheSea: so what does all this mean?
sczin11: IRAQ BEING THREATENED TO THE BLACKLIST IF ...
sczin11: ICC IS LOOKING INTO BRINGING MALIKI UP ON CHARGES
sczin11: SJC SETTING UP PRIVATE QUARTERS TO TRY THEIR OWN, WITHOUT FEAR
sczin11: PENSIONS BEING PAID, YET HOW TO OUT OF THE COUNTRY RETIREES
sczin11: MC IS UP
sczin11: QI CARDS ARE OUT
sczin11: SMART CARDS ARE OLD
sczin11: THE NEW NATIONAL CARD HAS STARTED TO APPEAR
sczin11: ELECTRONIC BANKING IS IN PLACE...TOPS IN THE WORLD
sczin11: E GOVERNMENT IS 75% IN PLACE...
sczin11: PARLIAMENT OFF FOR 2 WEEKS
sczin11: REPORT OF MOSUL END OF NEXT WEEK....HOW IF PARLIAMENT OFF
NearTheSea: I thought parliament just got back LOL
sczin11: ‹@NearTheSea› GREAT QUESTION....... IMHO, LOTS AND LOTS IS HAPPENING....MOST WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO, AND WONT BE, UNTIL IT HAPPENS....
sczin11: ‹@NearTheSea› THEY DID, 4 days FOR THEM, IS A MONTHS WORK..THEY NEED TO REST NOW
NearTheSea: LOL
NearTheSea: Wish I had a job like that!
Imagist: ‹@sczin11› good list!
NearTheSea: I have been in chat a few times but I always miss your post, so glad I got on today, having a little trouble navigating the site
OOTW: HI EVERYONE!
sczin11: ‹@Imagist› MY PLEASURE...THERES PLENTY MORE IN THE FORUM THREADS
sczin11: O O T W GA
NearTheSea: Hey OOTW
OOTW: SCZIN BROUGHT IN A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE - BASICALLY STATING THAT THE HEAD OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE,
CHALABI WANTS TO BRING A SUIT AGAINST ABADI ACCUSING HIM OF NOT ENACTING ECONOMIC REFORM-
AT THE VERY LEAST, THWARTING THE LAUNCHING OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR
OOTW: I DO WANT TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE GET MORE ARTICLES ON THIS- BUT IF IT'S TRUE, HOW CAN CHALABI VALIDATE THOSE CHARGES IF LAWS STILL NEED TO BE PASSED?
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› MAYBE HE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DONT KNOW
OOTW: THE PARLIAMENT PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE TODAY THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CONTENTIOUS ISSUES ON THE NATIONAL GUARD LAW - THEY GAVE NO TIMELINE IN THE OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - THEY'RE WORKING ON IT
OOTW: YES SCZIN- AGAIN.....WE WAIT...UGH LOL
NearTheSea: Heard that before!
OOTW: YES NEARTHESEA - BUT REMEMBER BEFORE RAMADAN THEY SAID THEY'D COME BACK TO PARLIAMENT IN "EMERGENCY" CONDITIONS AND IMO THAT'S GOT TO DO WITH ECONOMIC REFORM AND SOCIAL JUSTICE LAWS
NearTheSea: They're working on that is
OOTW: AND MASSUM CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO GIVE JOBOURI THE RIGHT TO PASS LAWS NEEDED FOR NATIONAL RECONCILIATION, INCLUDING ECONOMIC REFORM
OOTW: I'LL BRING SOME LINKS IN RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT FINISHED WRITING MY ASSESSMENT OF THE PARLIAMENT PRESS RELEASE RE THEIR SESSION FOR TODAY
NearTheSea: k
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› BTW
OOTW: http://ift.tt/1SAKXau...
http://ift.tt/1KIoWnq
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› THEY POSTPONED THE SALARY PAYMENTS, THE GRADES, PROMISED FOR JULY
OOTW: WELL I HOPE THEY ACTUALLY PAID THEM, THE PROVINCES ARE THREATENING TO HANDLE BUSINESS ON THEIR OWN IF THE GOVT DOESN'T ACT
OOTW: I'M GETTING LINKS BRB
OOTW: EVERYONE PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD, IT ADDRESSES MANY ISSUES - BUT UNDERLYING IS THAT MASSUM HAS GIVEN JOBOURI THE POWER TO PASS LAWS....AND THAT THE CORRUPT ARE GOING TO BE TRIED...
AND IT ALSO OUTLINES WHAT'S NEEDED TO GET SJC HEAD, MAHMOUD , OUT OF HIS POST - IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE ENTIRE THREAD - GO TO THE COMMENTS AT BOTTOM
OOTW: I'LL POST IN HERE AS WELL
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NH4jah
OOTW: so where are we at with the justice and accountability law...uhh...not a good place... this is the last time this was read... The competent Committee First reading Second reading Date of vote Law No. Publishing the facts 2008/12/01 10 02/14/2008 2 - National law the Authority for Accountability and Justice No. (10) for the year 2008
OOTW: SO THIS READING IS FROM 2008 -THIS LAW NEEDS TO BE READ THREE TIMES UNDER CURRENT GOVERNMENT http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj...
http://ift.tt/1NH4jal
THERE'S MANY CONNECTIONS IN HERE AND ALL OF THEM FALL TO THE PRIMARY HEAD OF THE HYDRA...MAHMOUD - SOME MIGHT MALIKI'S THE MAIN "HEAD",
BUT REMEMBER DURING THE ELECTIONS LAST YEAR, JOBOURI, MASSUM, AND MAHMOUD PULLED TOGETHER TO GET ABADI SEATED AS THE PM? IT WAS STUPENDOUS. ‘
IF IRAQ CAN TOPPLE MAHMOUD, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A BOLD MOVE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IMO...
EITHER BY VOTING IN NEW JUDGES - WHICH WOULD MEAN THEY WOULD NEED TO VALIDATE DISMISSAL OF MAHMOUD VIA OFFICIAL COURT PROCEEDINGS –
AND/OR ENACTMENT OF THE EITHER OR BOTH THE FEDERAL COURT ACT OR THE JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY LAW.
OR, AS ELUDED IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE QUOTING MASSUM, MASSUM IS SAYING (EFFECTIVELY) JOBOURI'S BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO GET THE LAWS PASSED –
IT SEEMS THERE'S AT LEAST THREE PATHS HERE. IRAQ..JUST GET ONE OF THESE DONE, WOULD YA, PLEASE?
POLITICAL BLOKS BEING THREATENED TO COME TO MUTUAL CONSENSUS, OR WATCH THE AUTHORITY BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU...
sczin11: THE DINAR IS UP, THE DINAR IS DOWN....PVT SECTOR IS LAUNCHED...
sczin11: LOANS APPROVED FOR DISTRIBUTION TO PVT SECTOR
sczin11: GOVERNMENT ENTERTAINING OFFERS FROM GLOBAL TRADE PARTNERS FOR WORK ON CREDIT....YET ALL OF A SUDDEN, FC SAYS NO MORE CREDIT..CAUSED MANY DIFF PROBLEMS
sczin11: CBI CAN NOT CONTROL/STABILIZE THE EXCHANGE RATE OF THE DINAR
sczin11: CBI HAS NOT FUNDED THE BUDGET
sczin11: PROVINCES DEMANDING THE CONTROL OF CERTAIN MINISTRIES TO BE GIVEN TO THEM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVT
NearTheSea: so what does all this mean?
sczin11: IRAQ BEING THREATENED TO THE BLACKLIST IF ...
sczin11: ICC IS LOOKING INTO BRINGING MALIKI UP ON CHARGES
sczin11: SJC SETTING UP PRIVATE QUARTERS TO TRY THEIR OWN, WITHOUT FEAR
sczin11: PENSIONS BEING PAID, YET HOW TO OUT OF THE COUNTRY RETIREES
sczin11: MC IS UP
sczin11: QI CARDS ARE OUT
sczin11: SMART CARDS ARE OLD
sczin11: THE NEW NATIONAL CARD HAS STARTED TO APPEAR
sczin11: ELECTRONIC BANKING IS IN PLACE...TOPS IN THE WORLD
sczin11: E GOVERNMENT IS 75% IN PLACE...
sczin11: PARLIAMENT OFF FOR 2 WEEKS
sczin11: REPORT OF MOSUL END OF NEXT WEEK....HOW IF PARLIAMENT OFF
NearTheSea: I thought parliament just got back LOL
sczin11: ‹@NearTheSea› GREAT QUESTION....... IMHO, LOTS AND LOTS IS HAPPENING....MOST WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO, AND WONT BE, UNTIL IT HAPPENS....
sczin11: ‹@NearTheSea› THEY DID, 4 days FOR THEM, IS A MONTHS WORK..THEY NEED TO REST NOW
NearTheSea: LOL
NearTheSea: Wish I had a job like that!
Imagist: ‹@sczin11› good list!
NearTheSea: I have been in chat a few times but I always miss your post, so glad I got on today, having a little trouble navigating the site
OOTW: HI EVERYONE!
sczin11: ‹@Imagist› MY PLEASURE...THERES PLENTY MORE IN THE FORUM THREADS
sczin11: O O T W GA
NearTheSea: Hey OOTW
OOTW: SCZIN BROUGHT IN A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE - BASICALLY STATING THAT THE HEAD OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE,
CHALABI WANTS TO BRING A SUIT AGAINST ABADI ACCUSING HIM OF NOT ENACTING ECONOMIC REFORM-
AT THE VERY LEAST, THWARTING THE LAUNCHING OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR
OOTW: I DO WANT TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE GET MORE ARTICLES ON THIS- BUT IF IT'S TRUE, HOW CAN CHALABI VALIDATE THOSE CHARGES IF LAWS STILL NEED TO BE PASSED?
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› MAYBE HE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DONT KNOW
OOTW: THE PARLIAMENT PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE TODAY THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CONTENTIOUS ISSUES ON THE NATIONAL GUARD LAW - THEY GAVE NO TIMELINE IN THE OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - THEY'RE WORKING ON IT
OOTW: YES SCZIN- AGAIN.....WE WAIT...UGH LOL
NearTheSea: Heard that before!
OOTW: YES NEARTHESEA - BUT REMEMBER BEFORE RAMADAN THEY SAID THEY'D COME BACK TO PARLIAMENT IN "EMERGENCY" CONDITIONS AND IMO THAT'S GOT TO DO WITH ECONOMIC REFORM AND SOCIAL JUSTICE LAWS
NearTheSea: They're working on that is
OOTW: AND MASSUM CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO GIVE JOBOURI THE RIGHT TO PASS LAWS NEEDED FOR NATIONAL RECONCILIATION, INCLUDING ECONOMIC REFORM
OOTW: I'LL BRING SOME LINKS IN RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT FINISHED WRITING MY ASSESSMENT OF THE PARLIAMENT PRESS RELEASE RE THEIR SESSION FOR TODAY
NearTheSea: k
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› BTW
OOTW: http://ift.tt/1SAKXau...
http://ift.tt/1KIoWnq
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› THEY POSTPONED THE SALARY PAYMENTS, THE GRADES, PROMISED FOR JULY
OOTW: WELL I HOPE THEY ACTUALLY PAID THEM, THE PROVINCES ARE THREATENING TO HANDLE BUSINESS ON THEIR OWN IF THE GOVT DOESN'T ACT
OOTW: I'M GETTING LINKS BRB
OOTW: EVERYONE PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD, IT ADDRESSES MANY ISSUES - BUT UNDERLYING IS THAT MASSUM HAS GIVEN JOBOURI THE POWER TO PASS LAWS....AND THAT THE CORRUPT ARE GOING TO BE TRIED...
AND IT ALSO OUTLINES WHAT'S NEEDED TO GET SJC HEAD, MAHMOUD , OUT OF HIS POST - IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE ENTIRE THREAD - GO TO THE COMMENTS AT BOTTOM
OOTW: I'LL POST IN HERE AS WELL
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NH4jah
OOTW: so where are we at with the justice and accountability law...uhh...not a good place... this is the last time this was read... The competent Committee First reading Second reading Date of vote Law No. Publishing the facts 2008/12/01 10 02/14/2008 2 - National law the Authority for Accountability and Justice No. (10) for the year 2008
OOTW: SO THIS READING IS FROM 2008 -THIS LAW NEEDS TO BE READ THREE TIMES UNDER CURRENT GOVERNMENT http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj...
http://ift.tt/1NH4jal
THERE'S MANY CONNECTIONS IN HERE AND ALL OF THEM FALL TO THE PRIMARY HEAD OF THE HYDRA...MAHMOUD - SOME MIGHT MALIKI'S THE MAIN "HEAD",
BUT REMEMBER DURING THE ELECTIONS LAST YEAR, JOBOURI, MASSUM, AND MAHMOUD PULLED TOGETHER TO GET ABADI SEATED AS THE PM? IT WAS STUPENDOUS. ‘
IF IRAQ CAN TOPPLE MAHMOUD, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A BOLD MOVE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IMO...
EITHER BY VOTING IN NEW JUDGES - WHICH WOULD MEAN THEY WOULD NEED TO VALIDATE DISMISSAL OF MAHMOUD VIA OFFICIAL COURT PROCEEDINGS –
AND/OR ENACTMENT OF THE EITHER OR BOTH THE FEDERAL COURT ACT OR THE JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY LAW.
OR, AS ELUDED IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE QUOTING MASSUM, MASSUM IS SAYING (EFFECTIVELY) JOBOURI'S BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO GET THE LAWS PASSED –
IT SEEMS THERE'S AT LEAST THREE PATHS HERE. IRAQ..JUST GET ONE OF THESE DONE, WOULD YA, PLEASE?
OOTW: THE SUPPORTING ARTICLES FOR MY COMMENTS, AGAIN, ARE IN THIS THREAD
OOTW: BREAK
OOTW: BESIDES, WHY DO WE NEED MAHMOUD TO GO?
WELL, HE'S SAID TO HAVE STOPPED THE ENACTMENT OF KEY LAWS AND/OR SUPPORTED MALIKI'S "REQUIREMENTS" RE INTERPRETATION OF LAW,
AND CERTAINLY, THERE'S DOCUMENTS LINKING HIM TO OWNING SADDAM ERA PROPERTIES, SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO HIM BY MALIKI.
I'M FAIRLY SURE HE'S A BAD EGG. LOL.
WE NEED TO SEE IRAQ GET SOMEONE INTO THE HEAD THE SJC, WHO ACTUALLY WANTS SOCIAL JUSTICE AND SHOWS IT. THIS IS THE UNDERLYING FOUNDATION OF ECONOMIC REFORM...
REMEMBER WHAT MASSUM SAID ABOVE (SORRY TO REPEAT MYSELF...BUT IT'S IMPORTANT)...HE SAID WE NEED ECONOMIC REFORM AND NATIONAL RECONCILIATION, THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM SOCIAL JUSTICE..
AND HE SAYS..JOBOURI'S THE MAN, AND MASSUM SUPPORTS JOBOURI IN DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO...TO GET THOSE LAWS PASSED..."LET HIM GET HIS WORK DONE"..
AGAIN, AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE.."IT'S ALL CONNECTED." AND, IMHO, THE INTRODUCTION OF THE AMNESTY,(AGAIN), AS WELL AS THE JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY LAW, INTO THE HOR'S SESSION TOMORROW...
DEFINITELY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MAHMOUD AND THOSE CHARGED WITH CORRUPTION WHO WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS "PRIVATE COURT" THE SJC HAS ESTABLISHED....
DO YOU THINK THAT THE PRESS ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BE INFORMED ABOUT MAHMOUD'S CORRUPTION - NOPE..BUT THE GOVT HAS HAD ITS HANDS TIED. IT SEEMS IRAQ IS DOING A LOT CLEANING UP.
LET'S HOPE THEY GET IT DONE! STAY TUNED..I'LL BE ADDING TO THIS AS THE EVENTS OF THE COMING WEEK UNFOLD.
OOTW: *"TOMORROW" NOW BEING "TODAY"
OOTW: AGAIN, I'M STILL WORKING ON MY ANALYSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN PARLIAMENT TODAY
NearTheSea: TY ootw
OOTW: WE MAY WELL BE ABOUT TO SEE ANOTHER COUP FROM MASSUM AND JOBOURI
OOTW: AS A PERSON I KNOW FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, WHO'S MUSLIM, SAID TO ME THE OTHER DAY..."RAMADAN IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GENEROUS AND THEY WANT TO SHOW IT"
OOTW: WE'LL SEE
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2 Thank You
OOTW: BREAK
OOTW: BESIDES, WHY DO WE NEED MAHMOUD TO GO?
WELL, HE'S SAID TO HAVE STOPPED THE ENACTMENT OF KEY LAWS AND/OR SUPPORTED MALIKI'S "REQUIREMENTS" RE INTERPRETATION OF LAW,
AND CERTAINLY, THERE'S DOCUMENTS LINKING HIM TO OWNING SADDAM ERA PROPERTIES, SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO HIM BY MALIKI.
I'M FAIRLY SURE HE'S A BAD EGG. LOL.
WE NEED TO SEE IRAQ GET SOMEONE INTO THE HEAD THE SJC, WHO ACTUALLY WANTS SOCIAL JUSTICE AND SHOWS IT. THIS IS THE UNDERLYING FOUNDATION OF ECONOMIC REFORM...
REMEMBER WHAT MASSUM SAID ABOVE (SORRY TO REPEAT MYSELF...BUT IT'S IMPORTANT)...HE SAID WE NEED ECONOMIC REFORM AND NATIONAL RECONCILIATION, THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM SOCIAL JUSTICE..
AND HE SAYS..JOBOURI'S THE MAN, AND MASSUM SUPPORTS JOBOURI IN DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO...TO GET THOSE LAWS PASSED..."LET HIM GET HIS WORK DONE"..
AGAIN, AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE.."IT'S ALL CONNECTED." AND, IMHO, THE INTRODUCTION OF THE AMNESTY,(AGAIN), AS WELL AS THE JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY LAW, INTO THE HOR'S SESSION TOMORROW...
DEFINITELY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MAHMOUD AND THOSE CHARGED WITH CORRUPTION WHO WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS "PRIVATE COURT" THE SJC HAS ESTABLISHED....
DO YOU THINK THAT THE PRESS ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BE INFORMED ABOUT MAHMOUD'S CORRUPTION - NOPE..BUT THE GOVT HAS HAD ITS HANDS TIED. IT SEEMS IRAQ IS DOING A LOT CLEANING UP.
LET'S HOPE THEY GET IT DONE! STAY TUNED..I'LL BE ADDING TO THIS AS THE EVENTS OF THE COMING WEEK UNFOLD.
OOTW: *"TOMORROW" NOW BEING "TODAY"
OOTW: AGAIN, I'M STILL WORKING ON MY ANALYSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN PARLIAMENT TODAY
NearTheSea: TY ootw
OOTW: WE MAY WELL BE ABOUT TO SEE ANOTHER COUP FROM MASSUM AND JOBOURI
OOTW: AS A PERSON I KNOW FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, WHO'S MUSLIM, SAID TO ME THE OTHER DAY..."RAMADAN IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GENEROUS AND THEY WANT TO SHOW IT"
OOTW: WE'LL SEE
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2 Thank You
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