Butifldrm & Sczin11 Late Night Chat Part 2 of 2
sczin11: THE REAL CONFLICT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LAWS AND WHICH ONES..
vtech: Newshound Sczin1: I will buy everyone in my forum new homes if no RV in 2015.
sczin11: THERES A VAST DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT
sczin11: AS MOST WHO KNOW ME WILL ATTEST, I DONT THINK ANY ARE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED FOR AN EXCHANGE RATE CHANGE
whitelions: ‹@vtech› I'll take the blame I have big sholders and really don't care if you bad mouth me as long as you can take the it as good as you give lol
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sczin11: THE REAL CONFLICT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LAWS AND WHICH ONES..
vtech: Newshound Sczin1: I will buy everyone in my forum new homes if no RV in 2015.
sczin11: THERES A VAST DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT
sczin11: AS MOST WHO KNOW ME WILL ATTEST, I DONT THINK ANY ARE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED FOR AN EXCHANGE RATE CHANGE
whitelions: ‹@vtech› I'll take the blame I have big sholders and really don't care if you bad mouth me as long as you can take the it as good as you give lol
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keli15: Thanks vtech for my tree house in hawaii. I need land first lol
keli15: A zim do u see the rv coming this year
keli15: Oops crazy spell check sczin
] sczin11: I THINK I HAVE BEEN QUITE TRANSPARENT ABOUT MY CURRENT POSITION, WITHOUT GIVING A DATE..READ ABOVE
sczin11: AND IF THAT DOES TELL YOU, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1OQtJ6y
keli15: No I am not asking for a date just a year
keli15: I am hoping to see it this year is all
Stash: Keli. Your guess is an good as anybodies
tipsyterror: If the WB is imposing a 60-day deadline on Iraq, with severe consequences if they don't comply, am I missing something or does it not seem that they are doing anything to move in that direction. Do they even have anything on the agenda that hints they plan to move toward compliance?
vtech: WB threats black list and could also extend
vtech: WB threats black list and could also extend
keli15: Tip it doesn't seem like it is going any where. That's why lj and mike not doing a call anymore
Stash: We wait
vtech: no one knows for sure
keli15: Vetech we wait just like we have been doing for years now
vtech: la and Mike know no more then anyone else
tipsyterror: I don't understand... why does that stop them from doing a call?
vtech: zero day is the only one left woooowing still
keli15: please listen to their call from last night.
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› here are the agendas for the next 3 sessions scroll down to middle of the page http://ift.tt/1ewhcZN.... http://ift.tt/1h7yYno
whitelions: ‹@keli15› we will do the calls againe when the laws start getting passed untill then there is just things getting put into place
tipsyterror: Is it 760-569-7676 / Pin: 712222# for IQD Calls?
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› we stoped doing the call's because there is not enough progress being made on the laws and unless the laws are passed we will not see an rv
vtech: And when it does happen it will be by suprise
tipsyterror: ok - just wondering how to hear last night's call
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE MEMBERS, PLEASE USE A STATEMENT LIKE IMO, OR JMHO...SINCE IN FACT I DONT THINK YOU HAVE A LINK TO BACK YOUR LAST COMMENT:)
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› Thanks
vtech: there is NO NO NO NO WAY there gonna even hint it's done until AFTER
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› http://ift.tt/1ewhcZN....
http://ift.tt/1OQtJ6A
tipsyterror: Thank you... IQD Team is what I meant - not IQDCalls... sorry
whitelions: your welcome
Donnie: Securities available to the public raise the credit rating of Iraq to facilitate external borrowing
Donnie: Baghdad, Mohammed Hadi government is seeking to move the money supply among citizens across the raised credit bonds, to provide a cash deal with a part of the financial budget and cash crisis experienced by the deficit, according to the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister, while rated credit globally academics confirms that the move provides for Iraq. " facilitates his external borrowing and the sale of bonds. "
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX LINK
Donnie: "explaining that "those bonds will go the citizens a fixed exchange rate, and the interest rate is determined by the duration of the bond. " He said the move aims to "move the money supply to the citizens."
Donnie: "For the first time after 2003 Iraq plans bonds put on this scale."
Donnie: "This procedure allows Iraq enter the "Global Credit Portal, and thus give him a rated credit certain officially." known credit rating"
Donnie: "The budget law for 2015, the government authorized the sovereign government bonds issuance by seven trillion dinars to cover the fiscal deficit. "
Donnie: "The bank said it "will sell that amount in Iraqi dinars and the price of 1095 dinars per dollars and payable by the Ministry of Finance in December 31 2016, to be paid in dollars at maturity. ""
Butifldrm: ‹@Donnie› we will be together until at least December 2016 ... from this statement
Butifldrm: "The bank said it "will sell that amount in Iraqi dinars and the price of 1095 dinars per dollars and payable by the Ministry of Finance in December 31 2016, to be paid in dollars at maturity. ""
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX LINK
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› TY
Tex: ‹@sczin11› Many thanks for that Tariff Opinon
Butifldrm: this means the more than likely the Central Bank of Iraq is not going to liberalize their economy and unpeg from the dollar
Butifldrm: in other words move dinto article VIII
keli15: Butifl wow that's not good.
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› the IMF has been asking Iraq since Shabibi left to liberalize their economy
Butifldrm: it's tool to let the free markets decide the value of a countries currency
Butifldrm: Iraq/the GOI have not done so
TxBrand: ‹@Butifldrm› what is their tool ? asking them to liberalize ?
Butifldrm: ‹@TxBrand› Liberlaize means unpeg from the dollar
Butifldrm: move innto article VIII
TxBrand: ic
Butifldrm: the problem with every article IV consultation has been the 2% spread
Butifldrm: the CBI has been using their reserves to try to meet this demand fromm the IMF
Butifldrm: anyway, the government sees this but does nothing about the corruption
Butifldrm: I am very excited about the anti corruption laws that the Parliament is voting on
Donnie: The meeting's agenda number (9) Monday 3 August 2015
Tex: ‹@Butifldrm› Is there any reason for the GOI to change???
Donnie: First, read verses from the Koran. Second, the first reading of the draft Oil Ministry employees' salaries law.
Donnie: Third: the first reading of the draft Social Welfare Act.
Donnie: Seventh: The second reading of the draft law of the Ministry of Interior.
Butifldrm: ‹@Tex› are you talking about changing their wicked ways
Donnie: Eighth: the second reading of a bill to impose fees on vehicles for the purposes of the streets and bridges
Tex: That could be a problem allright
Donnie: Ninth: The second reading of the draft law on protection from domestic violence.
Butifldrm: I think with the passing of anti corruption laws that they will have incentive to change
Butifldrm: It appears the Judiciary is on board now
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The meeting's agenda number (9) Monday 3 August 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
Butifldrm: Integrity is going to release the names in August
Tex: I would think that there pockets would be full by now...
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The agenda of the session No. (8) Saturday (1) August 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
keli15: Buti don't we need the basket of laws passed to see the rv
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The agenda of the session number (7) Thursday 30 July 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
Butifldrm: ‹@Donnie› have you noticed how many people of parliament are showing up recently?
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› yup
Butifldrm: this is or could be a problem
Butifldrm: there are 328 possible vote in the iraqi parliament
Donnie: Those are 3 full sessions
Donnie: a lot of laws being read
keli15: Thanks donnie
Butifldrm: truly about 170+ have showed up
Donnie: none up for vote though :(
keli15: Donnie not the hcl, article 140 etc
Butifldrm: this is problem for the important laws that need a 2/3 majority vote
Butifldrm: the Kurds are not showing up
Butifldrm: they are not getting paid
Donnie: how many are needed in session for a reading?
keli15: Donnie I am talking about the important laws
Donnie: ‹@keli15› i know what you're talking about
Donnie: the "important" laws aren't on the schedule
keli15: A zim do u see the rv coming this year
keli15: Oops crazy spell check sczin
] sczin11: I THINK I HAVE BEEN QUITE TRANSPARENT ABOUT MY CURRENT POSITION, WITHOUT GIVING A DATE..READ ABOVE
sczin11: AND IF THAT DOES TELL YOU, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1OQtJ6y
keli15: No I am not asking for a date just a year
keli15: I am hoping to see it this year is all
Stash: Keli. Your guess is an good as anybodies
tipsyterror: If the WB is imposing a 60-day deadline on Iraq, with severe consequences if they don't comply, am I missing something or does it not seem that they are doing anything to move in that direction. Do they even have anything on the agenda that hints they plan to move toward compliance?
vtech: WB threats black list and could also extend
vtech: WB threats black list and could also extend
keli15: Tip it doesn't seem like it is going any where. That's why lj and mike not doing a call anymore
Stash: We wait
vtech: no one knows for sure
keli15: Vetech we wait just like we have been doing for years now
vtech: la and Mike know no more then anyone else
tipsyterror: I don't understand... why does that stop them from doing a call?
vtech: zero day is the only one left woooowing still
keli15: please listen to their call from last night.
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› here are the agendas for the next 3 sessions scroll down to middle of the page http://ift.tt/1ewhcZN.... http://ift.tt/1h7yYno
whitelions: ‹@keli15› we will do the calls againe when the laws start getting passed untill then there is just things getting put into place
tipsyterror: Is it 760-569-7676 / Pin: 712222# for IQD Calls?
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› we stoped doing the call's because there is not enough progress being made on the laws and unless the laws are passed we will not see an rv
vtech: And when it does happen it will be by suprise
tipsyterror: ok - just wondering how to hear last night's call
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE MEMBERS, PLEASE USE A STATEMENT LIKE IMO, OR JMHO...SINCE IN FACT I DONT THINK YOU HAVE A LINK TO BACK YOUR LAST COMMENT:)
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› Thanks
vtech: there is NO NO NO NO WAY there gonna even hint it's done until AFTER
whitelions: ‹@tipsyterror› http://ift.tt/1ewhcZN....
http://ift.tt/1OQtJ6A
tipsyterror: Thank you... IQD Team is what I meant - not IQDCalls... sorry
whitelions: your welcome
Donnie: Securities available to the public raise the credit rating of Iraq to facilitate external borrowing
Donnie: Baghdad, Mohammed Hadi government is seeking to move the money supply among citizens across the raised credit bonds, to provide a cash deal with a part of the financial budget and cash crisis experienced by the deficit, according to the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister, while rated credit globally academics confirms that the move provides for Iraq. " facilitates his external borrowing and the sale of bonds. "
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX LINK
Donnie: "explaining that "those bonds will go the citizens a fixed exchange rate, and the interest rate is determined by the duration of the bond. " He said the move aims to "move the money supply to the citizens."
Donnie: "For the first time after 2003 Iraq plans bonds put on this scale."
Donnie: "This procedure allows Iraq enter the "Global Credit Portal, and thus give him a rated credit certain officially." known credit rating"
Donnie: "The budget law for 2015, the government authorized the sovereign government bonds issuance by seven trillion dinars to cover the fiscal deficit. "
Donnie: "The bank said it "will sell that amount in Iraqi dinars and the price of 1095 dinars per dollars and payable by the Ministry of Finance in December 31 2016, to be paid in dollars at maturity. ""
Butifldrm: ‹@Donnie› we will be together until at least December 2016 ... from this statement
Butifldrm: "The bank said it "will sell that amount in Iraqi dinars and the price of 1095 dinars per dollars and payable by the Ministry of Finance in December 31 2016, to be paid in dollars at maturity. ""
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX LINK
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› TY
Tex: ‹@sczin11› Many thanks for that Tariff Opinon
Butifldrm: this means the more than likely the Central Bank of Iraq is not going to liberalize their economy and unpeg from the dollar
Butifldrm: in other words move dinto article VIII
keli15: Butifl wow that's not good.
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› the IMF has been asking Iraq since Shabibi left to liberalize their economy
Butifldrm: it's tool to let the free markets decide the value of a countries currency
Butifldrm: Iraq/the GOI have not done so
TxBrand: ‹@Butifldrm› what is their tool ? asking them to liberalize ?
Butifldrm: ‹@TxBrand› Liberlaize means unpeg from the dollar
Butifldrm: move innto article VIII
TxBrand: ic
Butifldrm: the problem with every article IV consultation has been the 2% spread
Butifldrm: the CBI has been using their reserves to try to meet this demand fromm the IMF
Butifldrm: anyway, the government sees this but does nothing about the corruption
Butifldrm: I am very excited about the anti corruption laws that the Parliament is voting on
Donnie: The meeting's agenda number (9) Monday 3 August 2015
Tex: ‹@Butifldrm› Is there any reason for the GOI to change???
Donnie: First, read verses from the Koran. Second, the first reading of the draft Oil Ministry employees' salaries law.
Donnie: Third: the first reading of the draft Social Welfare Act.
Donnie: Seventh: The second reading of the draft law of the Ministry of Interior.
Butifldrm: ‹@Tex› are you talking about changing their wicked ways
Donnie: Eighth: the second reading of a bill to impose fees on vehicles for the purposes of the streets and bridges
Tex: That could be a problem allright
Donnie: Ninth: The second reading of the draft law on protection from domestic violence.
Butifldrm: I think with the passing of anti corruption laws that they will have incentive to change
Butifldrm: It appears the Judiciary is on board now
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The meeting's agenda number (9) Monday 3 August 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
Butifldrm: Integrity is going to release the names in August
Tex: I would think that there pockets would be full by now...
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The agenda of the session No. (8) Saturday (1) August 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
keli15: Buti don't we need the basket of laws passed to see the rv
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1NH4jaj... The agenda of the session number (7) Thursday 30 July 2015
http://ift.tt/1OQtLeJ
Butifldrm: ‹@Donnie› have you noticed how many people of parliament are showing up recently?
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› yup
Butifldrm: this is or could be a problem
Butifldrm: there are 328 possible vote in the iraqi parliament
Donnie: Those are 3 full sessions
Donnie: a lot of laws being read
keli15: Thanks donnie
Butifldrm: truly about 170+ have showed up
Donnie: none up for vote though :(
keli15: Donnie not the hcl, article 140 etc
Butifldrm: this is problem for the important laws that need a 2/3 majority vote
Butifldrm: the Kurds are not showing up
Butifldrm: they are not getting paid
Donnie: how many are needed in session for a reading?
keli15: Donnie I am talking about the important laws
Donnie: ‹@keli15› i know what you're talking about
Donnie: the "important" laws aren't on the schedule
Butifldrm: there has been a few article stating that the Kurds are willing to negotiate, but thye are bypassing Somo and pumping oil thru Turkey cutting out the OI
keli15: Oh okay just checking lol
Butifldrm: The Kurds are the Key to HCL
Butifldrm: What is so sad is that Maliki had the money and the chance to make this happen before 2014
Butifldrm: Yet he and Sharistani chose corruption instead
keli15: It will be awhile for the laws to be passed buti?
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› I do believe once they get HCL passed, the important laws will be passed quickly
Butifldrm: before HCL, has to come a number of important laws
Butifldrm: all thing are possible thru negotiations right?
Butifldrm: It may be that the Kurds under their own circumstances have to have the ability to sell oil on the side to support the war against ISIS, take care of the refugees, and pay their employees until the GOI get their ** together
keli15: Right buti. Why do you think that the laws are not voted on yet.
gold642: and Maliki?
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› iraq has many faces. Sectarianism is the worst
Butifldrm: ‹@gold642› Maliki is the root cause
gold642: so he is not in the way?
Butifldrm: but he is still very popular with the owners in Iraq
Butifldrm: In other words
Butifldrm: he has provided much wealth to a distinct group of people
Butifldrm: that is his protection
Butifldrm: government is the largest business in Iraq
gold642: ok so he is not in the way, no matter what he does or says, it doesnt matter now?
Butifldrm: It provides for Billions
Butifldrm: ‹@gold642› oh he is still in the way
Butifldrm: but not nearly as much as he was while in power
gold642: imo, i think he now just being used as an excuse until they are ready to push the button
Butifldrm: you can see what a reaction the world gave about his comments toward Saudi Arabia
Butifldrm: When i say HCL must be passed, I'm talking ALL the little details/laws must be passed first, including National Reconciliation, A census, Amnesty, their form of Justice and accountability....the list goes on
Butifldrm: Then we still need the banking laws
Tex: ‹@Butifldrm› Can they start the Tariffs Aug. 1
gold642: CAN, but will they
nobody: ‹@Butifldrm› hello
Butifldrm: ‹@nobody› helllooo
Butifldrm: ‹@Tex› absolutely
Butifldrm: this will be a start on stopping the corruption
Butifldrm: they will be able to control the borders
Butifldrm: OK Luv yall I better get to bed I still have to make a living the hard way. Night Night
Tex: Thank You have a great nights rest
keli15: Oh okay just checking lol
Butifldrm: The Kurds are the Key to HCL
Butifldrm: What is so sad is that Maliki had the money and the chance to make this happen before 2014
Butifldrm: Yet he and Sharistani chose corruption instead
keli15: It will be awhile for the laws to be passed buti?
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› I do believe once they get HCL passed, the important laws will be passed quickly
Butifldrm: before HCL, has to come a number of important laws
Butifldrm: all thing are possible thru negotiations right?
Butifldrm: It may be that the Kurds under their own circumstances have to have the ability to sell oil on the side to support the war against ISIS, take care of the refugees, and pay their employees until the GOI get their ** together
keli15: Right buti. Why do you think that the laws are not voted on yet.
gold642: and Maliki?
Butifldrm: ‹@keli15› iraq has many faces. Sectarianism is the worst
Butifldrm: ‹@gold642› Maliki is the root cause
gold642: so he is not in the way?
Butifldrm: but he is still very popular with the owners in Iraq
Butifldrm: In other words
Butifldrm: he has provided much wealth to a distinct group of people
Butifldrm: that is his protection
Butifldrm: government is the largest business in Iraq
gold642: ok so he is not in the way, no matter what he does or says, it doesnt matter now?
Butifldrm: It provides for Billions
Butifldrm: ‹@gold642› oh he is still in the way
Butifldrm: but not nearly as much as he was while in power
gold642: imo, i think he now just being used as an excuse until they are ready to push the button
Butifldrm: you can see what a reaction the world gave about his comments toward Saudi Arabia
Butifldrm: When i say HCL must be passed, I'm talking ALL the little details/laws must be passed first, including National Reconciliation, A census, Amnesty, their form of Justice and accountability....the list goes on
Butifldrm: Then we still need the banking laws
Tex: ‹@Butifldrm› Can they start the Tariffs Aug. 1
gold642: CAN, but will they
nobody: ‹@Butifldrm› hello
Butifldrm: ‹@nobody› helllooo
Butifldrm: ‹@Tex› absolutely
Butifldrm: this will be a start on stopping the corruption
Butifldrm: they will be able to control the borders
Butifldrm: OK Luv yall I better get to bed I still have to make a living the hard way. Night Night
Tex: Thank You have a great nights rest
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