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chattels: Abadi: Iraq is exposed to a flagrant violation and we will resort every legitimate means to protect national sovereignty
chattels: " ............ did not ask any country to send ground force will not accept it never ............ "
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chattels: Our government needs to stop talking about what it will do regarding sending ground troops if it wants to support Mr. Abadi, IMO.
chattels: They have a tendency to speak about Iraq as though Iraq was a child in the room with no cognitive abilities.
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News With Links & Discussion
Wealthwatch Sunday Chat 12-12-15 Part 1 of 2
Part 2 With OOTW
chattels: Abadi: Iraq is exposed to a flagrant violation and we will resort every legitimate means to protect national sovereignty
chattels: " ............ did not ask any country to send ground force will not accept it never ............ "
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1Y8pbAY
chattels: Our government needs to stop talking about what it will do regarding sending ground troops if it wants to support Mr. Abadi, IMO.
chattels: They have a tendency to speak about Iraq as though Iraq was a child in the room with no cognitive abilities.
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chattels: Everything that American politicians say is news in Iraq.
chattels: And much of it is sensationalized by certain Iraqi political factions as a weapon in public opinion against America and Mr. Abadi.
Davidnorris: Well what is next
chattels: Iraqi politicians divided over Turkish troop deployment in Mosul ERBIL, Kurdistan Region- Iraqi politicians still disagree on the nature of Turkish troop deployment near Mosul, some calling for cutting off all ties with Ankara while others welcome the Turkish move.
chattels: “We at the Nineveh provincial council do not have any issues with having Turkish troops near Mosul because they are training the soldiers to be prepared for Mosul liberation offensive,” he explained.
chattels: “There is no difference between having Iranian or Turkish troops inside Iraq,” MP Badr al-Falih told Rudaw. “Why no one talks about the presence of Iranian troops and its violation to Iraqi territory.”
chattels: Al-Falih believes that Iraq cannot afford to severe trade and economic ties with Turkey despite the threats. “Iraq will be the only one at disadvantage from cancelling its agreements with Turkey because Iraq's economy depends on Turkish companies and the economy will breakdown when those companies are out,” he concluded. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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chattels: Speaking to Rudaw TV, Hussein said that the question of Mosul is under study and that the Kurdish Peshmerga will assist the Iraqi army when the time comes. “The subject of the liberation of Mosul has to be studied well,” said President Masoud Barzani’s chief of staff.
“And we must help the Iraqi army, but the problem is that the Iraqi army is not ready for this yet. It is not ready to be part of that battle, and by not being ready I mean militarily.” Hussein hinted that the Iraqi army might be ready for Mosul once it is done fighting ISIS in “In Ramadi, Tikrit, Baiji and other areas.”
chattels: " ............... the problem is that the Iraqi army is not ready ......."
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1Y8p9sW
chattels: Currency Auctions Announcement No. (3093) The opening offers the sale and purchase of foreign currency in the window of the Central Bank of Iraq on 13/12/2015 and the results were as follows: DETAILS NOTES Number of banks 22 Number of remittance companies 17 Auction price selling dinar / US$ 1182 Auction price buying dinar / US$ ----- Amount sold at auction price (US$) 183,580,000 Amount purchased at Auction price (US$) ----- Total offers for buying (US$) 183,580,000 Total offers for selling (US$) -----
chattels: 3093 ..........13-Dec ........1,212 ...........1,182 chattels: 1,212
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LZCY4T....
http://ift.tt/1Sh4n1Z
chattels: the start of the parliamentary session in the presence of 220 deputies :: 2015/12/13 11:49 • Urgent .. start of the parliamentary session in the presence of 220 deputies [Baghdad - where] the House of Representatives began on Sunday, its usual presence of 220 deputies.
According to a parliamentary source told all of Iraq [where], "The parliament session was held under the chairmanship of Salim al-Jubouri, head of the House of Representatives, and the presence of 220 deputies,"
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 5h5 hours ago #Iraq parliament just started its session w/ 220 MPs reportedly present. Substantially more than last Turkey session http://ift.tt/1NraQoM... LINK
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 5h5 hours ago #Iraq foreign minister Jaafari has just arrived at parliament to explain crisis with Turkey http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... … Testimony to be public. http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB4
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 2h2 hours ago Weird reports from Iraq suggest defence minister is at parliament but refuses to appear before assembly about Turkey http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1NraQoO
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 24m24 minutes ago #Iraq parliament session on Turkish incursion just finished without any appearance by the defence minister http://ift.tt/1CjzoR7... …
http://ift.tt/1NraQoS
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 8m8 minutes ago Official explanation #Iraq defence minister Obeidi failed to appear before parliament re Turkey is he needed PM's permission. Far-fetched!
chattels: Parliament to raise its next Wednesday :: 2015/12/13 16:08 • Parliament to raise its next Wednesday [Baghdad-where] raise the House of Representatives today to its regular Wednesday Almqubl.
chattels: It will be " difficult " to have a vote on the budget Monday without Parliament in session, eh ?
chattels: or Tuesday.
chattels: 12-11-2015 The head of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh ...................... alluding to "the completion of the budget discussion with the Ministry of Finance and all the concerned authorities and the completion of discussions over the next five days." wealthwatch.world/showthr... post # 119
http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB6
chattels: and Tamimi article today repeated the foregoing wealthwatch.world/showthr... post # 124
http://ift.tt/1NraQoU
chattels: Five days from 12-11-2015 will be Wednesday, 12-16-2015
chattels: also confirmed Tamimi " The Committee will hold its meeting on Monday to discuss the increase Mozanta the popular crowd and displaced persons, in addition to finalize details of the budget of ministries. "
chattels: Oil Minister: without assigning parliament and political forces we will not be able to solve the energy crisis with Kurdistan :: 2015/12/13 15:59 • [Baghdad - where] Oil Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi said on Sunday that without attribution by the House of Representatives and the political forces of the ministry will not be able to end with the oil crisis of the Kurdistan region.
And between Abdul-Mahdi during the Commission on oil and energy parliamentary seminar on licensing rounds "We will not be able alone to end the crisis with Kurdistan region over oil," adding that "the licensing rounds contracts bring many benefits to Iraq and should focus on and address the failures occurring Bcesp decline in global oil prices . "
The Commission on oil and energy parliamentary seminar was held on Sunday in the presence of the oil minister to discuss the 14 rounds Turakhas. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB8
chattels: Any one who says that the HCL is agreed upon and set forth in the 2016 budget is clueless, IMO.
Doug_W: clueless= having NO clue
chattels: A " permanent " and plenary HCL will involve several constitutional issues. It is not going to be set forth in any annual budget agreement / law.
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› yes
chattels: The agreement in November of 2014 and set forth in the 2015 budget was very limited and contingent upon performance by both sides, i.e., VOIDABLE. Indeed it was not performed by either side, Baghdad or Erbil.
chattels: " Real " laws are not voidable.
chattels: Turkey: military delegation agreed with the Iraqi government to expand its military presence in the base Ba'shiqah :: 2015/12/13 17:00 • [Follow-where] Turkey announced an agreement with the Iraqi government to expand the Turkish military presence in the base camp Ba'shiqah because of security conditions surrounding the training mission there. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NraQoY
chattels: REALLY ! ? AFTER DAYS OF POSTURING ? VERY CURIOUS NEWS.
Doug_W: gotta love saber rattling
chattels: There is no credible Iraqi force that can move into Mosul, kick out ISIS, and occupy the city, and there probably won’t be for a long time. But the siege of Mosul has begun.
Clearly, Turkey, which has boxed itself out of a solution in Syria, wants to be a part of whatever happens in northern Iraq. The Turkish troops that rolled across the border last week took up positions in the town of Bashiqa, a few miles outside of Mosul.
The public reason given by the Turks is that the troops were sent to bolster a contingent of forces that was already there to train a Sunni militia. But no one really believes that.
chattels: The Iraqi government may not have invited the Turks, but it seems pretty clear that the Kurdish Regional Government, which oversees the autonomous region of northern Iraq, did not protest when they arrived. In any case, the Iraqi Kurds can’t say no to the Turks: the thing that all Kurdish hopes of independence rest on is the oil pipeline that sends Kurdish oil to the Mediterranean every day.
It runs through Turkey, and Erdoğan could turn it off at any moment if he wanted to. On Wednesday, the Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani, whom I Profiled in the magazine last year, met with Erdoğan in Ankara.
chattels: So, finally, why did the Turks go into northern Iraq? It seems pretty clear that Erdoğan, whose policy has failed in Syria, is trying to be relevant again. “Erdoğan wants to be part of whatever happens in Mosul, and putting troops there guarantees that,’’ a senior Iraqi official told me.
chattels: Last month, Kurdish forces, backed by American airstrikes, cut the highway that connected Mosul to the ISIS base in Syria. There are still a few roads leading into Mosul that ISIS can use to resupply its fighters, but the Kurds are moving to cut them, too.
Very soon, the ISIS fighters inside Mosul will be isolated. “If you cut those roads, the quality of life inside Mosul is going to deteriorate very quickly,’’ a former American intelligence official who works in the region told me.
chattels: " ............ the quality of life inside Mosul is going to deteriorate very quickly,’’
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... POST # 41
http://ift.tt/1Y8p9Jm
chattels: And much of it is sensationalized by certain Iraqi political factions as a weapon in public opinion against America and Mr. Abadi.
Davidnorris: Well what is next
chattels: Iraqi politicians divided over Turkish troop deployment in Mosul ERBIL, Kurdistan Region- Iraqi politicians still disagree on the nature of Turkish troop deployment near Mosul, some calling for cutting off all ties with Ankara while others welcome the Turkish move.
chattels: “We at the Nineveh provincial council do not have any issues with having Turkish troops near Mosul because they are training the soldiers to be prepared for Mosul liberation offensive,” he explained.
chattels: “There is no difference between having Iranian or Turkish troops inside Iraq,” MP Badr al-Falih told Rudaw. “Why no one talks about the presence of Iranian troops and its violation to Iraqi territory.”
chattels: Al-Falih believes that Iraq cannot afford to severe trade and economic ties with Turkey despite the threats. “Iraq will be the only one at disadvantage from cancelling its agreements with Turkey because Iraq's economy depends on Turkish companies and the economy will breakdown when those companies are out,” he concluded. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NraRt2
chattels: Speaking to Rudaw TV, Hussein said that the question of Mosul is under study and that the Kurdish Peshmerga will assist the Iraqi army when the time comes. “The subject of the liberation of Mosul has to be studied well,” said President Masoud Barzani’s chief of staff.
“And we must help the Iraqi army, but the problem is that the Iraqi army is not ready for this yet. It is not ready to be part of that battle, and by not being ready I mean militarily.” Hussein hinted that the Iraqi army might be ready for Mosul once it is done fighting ISIS in “In Ramadi, Tikrit, Baiji and other areas.”
chattels: " ............... the problem is that the Iraqi army is not ready ......."
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://ift.tt/1Y8p9sW
chattels: Currency Auctions Announcement No. (3093) The opening offers the sale and purchase of foreign currency in the window of the Central Bank of Iraq on 13/12/2015 and the results were as follows: DETAILS NOTES Number of banks 22 Number of remittance companies 17 Auction price selling dinar / US$ 1182 Auction price buying dinar / US$ ----- Amount sold at auction price (US$) 183,580,000 Amount purchased at Auction price (US$) ----- Total offers for buying (US$) 183,580,000 Total offers for selling (US$) -----
chattels: 3093 ..........13-Dec ........1,212 ...........1,182 chattels: 1,212
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LZCY4T....
http://ift.tt/1Sh4n1Z
chattels: the start of the parliamentary session in the presence of 220 deputies :: 2015/12/13 11:49 • Urgent .. start of the parliamentary session in the presence of 220 deputies [Baghdad - where] the House of Representatives began on Sunday, its usual presence of 220 deputies.
According to a parliamentary source told all of Iraq [where], "The parliament session was held under the chairmanship of Salim al-Jubouri, head of the House of Representatives, and the presence of 220 deputies,"
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 5h5 hours ago #Iraq parliament just started its session w/ 220 MPs reportedly present. Substantially more than last Turkey session http://ift.tt/1NraQoM... LINK
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 5h5 hours ago #Iraq foreign minister Jaafari has just arrived at parliament to explain crisis with Turkey http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... … Testimony to be public. http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB4
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 2h2 hours ago Weird reports from Iraq suggest defence minister is at parliament but refuses to appear before assembly about Turkey http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1NraQoO
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 24m24 minutes ago #Iraq parliament session on Turkish incursion just finished without any appearance by the defence minister http://ift.tt/1CjzoR7... …
http://ift.tt/1NraQoS
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 8m8 minutes ago Official explanation #Iraq defence minister Obeidi failed to appear before parliament re Turkey is he needed PM's permission. Far-fetched!
chattels: Parliament to raise its next Wednesday :: 2015/12/13 16:08 • Parliament to raise its next Wednesday [Baghdad-where] raise the House of Representatives today to its regular Wednesday Almqubl.
chattels: It will be " difficult " to have a vote on the budget Monday without Parliament in session, eh ?
chattels: or Tuesday.
chattels: 12-11-2015 The head of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh ...................... alluding to "the completion of the budget discussion with the Ministry of Finance and all the concerned authorities and the completion of discussions over the next five days." wealthwatch.world/showthr... post # 119
http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB6
chattels: and Tamimi article today repeated the foregoing wealthwatch.world/showthr... post # 124
http://ift.tt/1NraQoU
chattels: Five days from 12-11-2015 will be Wednesday, 12-16-2015
chattels: also confirmed Tamimi " The Committee will hold its meeting on Monday to discuss the increase Mozanta the popular crowd and displaced persons, in addition to finalize details of the budget of ministries. "
chattels: Oil Minister: without assigning parliament and political forces we will not be able to solve the energy crisis with Kurdistan :: 2015/12/13 15:59 • [Baghdad - where] Oil Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi said on Sunday that without attribution by the House of Representatives and the political forces of the ministry will not be able to end with the oil crisis of the Kurdistan region.
And between Abdul-Mahdi during the Commission on oil and energy parliamentary seminar on licensing rounds "We will not be able alone to end the crisis with Kurdistan region over oil," adding that "the licensing rounds contracts bring many benefits to Iraq and should focus on and address the failures occurring Bcesp decline in global oil prices . "
The Commission on oil and energy parliamentary seminar was held on Sunday in the presence of the oil minister to discuss the 14 rounds Turakhas. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...http://ift.tt/1Y8pbB8
chattels: Any one who says that the HCL is agreed upon and set forth in the 2016 budget is clueless, IMO.
Doug_W: clueless= having NO clue
chattels: A " permanent " and plenary HCL will involve several constitutional issues. It is not going to be set forth in any annual budget agreement / law.
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› yes
chattels: The agreement in November of 2014 and set forth in the 2015 budget was very limited and contingent upon performance by both sides, i.e., VOIDABLE. Indeed it was not performed by either side, Baghdad or Erbil.
chattels: " Real " laws are not voidable.
chattels: Turkey: military delegation agreed with the Iraqi government to expand its military presence in the base Ba'shiqah :: 2015/12/13 17:00 • [Follow-where] Turkey announced an agreement with the Iraqi government to expand the Turkish military presence in the base camp Ba'shiqah because of security conditions surrounding the training mission there. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NraQoY
chattels: REALLY ! ? AFTER DAYS OF POSTURING ? VERY CURIOUS NEWS.
Doug_W: gotta love saber rattling
chattels: There is no credible Iraqi force that can move into Mosul, kick out ISIS, and occupy the city, and there probably won’t be for a long time. But the siege of Mosul has begun.
Clearly, Turkey, which has boxed itself out of a solution in Syria, wants to be a part of whatever happens in northern Iraq. The Turkish troops that rolled across the border last week took up positions in the town of Bashiqa, a few miles outside of Mosul.
The public reason given by the Turks is that the troops were sent to bolster a contingent of forces that was already there to train a Sunni militia. But no one really believes that.
chattels: The Iraqi government may not have invited the Turks, but it seems pretty clear that the Kurdish Regional Government, which oversees the autonomous region of northern Iraq, did not protest when they arrived. In any case, the Iraqi Kurds can’t say no to the Turks: the thing that all Kurdish hopes of independence rest on is the oil pipeline that sends Kurdish oil to the Mediterranean every day.
It runs through Turkey, and Erdoğan could turn it off at any moment if he wanted to. On Wednesday, the Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani, whom I Profiled in the magazine last year, met with Erdoğan in Ankara.
chattels: So, finally, why did the Turks go into northern Iraq? It seems pretty clear that Erdoğan, whose policy has failed in Syria, is trying to be relevant again. “Erdoğan wants to be part of whatever happens in Mosul, and putting troops there guarantees that,’’ a senior Iraqi official told me.
chattels: Last month, Kurdish forces, backed by American airstrikes, cut the highway that connected Mosul to the ISIS base in Syria. There are still a few roads leading into Mosul that ISIS can use to resupply its fighters, but the Kurds are moving to cut them, too.
Very soon, the ISIS fighters inside Mosul will be isolated. “If you cut those roads, the quality of life inside Mosul is going to deteriorate very quickly,’’ a former American intelligence official who works in the region told me.
chattels: " ............ the quality of life inside Mosul is going to deteriorate very quickly,’’
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... POST # 41
http://ift.tt/1Y8p9Jm
chattels: There are approximately 1 million people in Mosul.
chattels: The noose around ISIS’s neck is slowly getting tighter wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NraQp1
chattels: My post from yesterday regarding the budget vote : " For those who keep score of the accuracy of Iraqi news, observations and predictions in " dinarland ", you may write this down. There will be no vote on the 2016 Iraqi budget on Monday or next week, IMO."
chattels: " raise the House of Representatives today to its regular Wednesday " http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1Y8p9Jo
Doug_W: gee imagine that "C" more delays
chattels: Article quote: "completion of discussions over the next five days"? [so maybe the budget being put off until next month may not be true?] Maybe, but discussions, even if timely and completed, may not result in a vote...?
We have yet to hear from the Kurds about the budget. ...even if the budget is passed then what significance has it for our event? Just observing the ink content without much expectation of anything from/on the budget relevant to our event.
chattels: " ........discussions, even if timely and completed, may not result in a vote.. "
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› Not hard to figure, eh ?
chattels: Why pundits insist upon opining that events are urgent, necessary or immediate defies my understanding.
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2 Thank You
chattels: The noose around ISIS’s neck is slowly getting tighter wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1NraQp1
chattels: My post from yesterday regarding the budget vote : " For those who keep score of the accuracy of Iraqi news, observations and predictions in " dinarland ", you may write this down. There will be no vote on the 2016 Iraqi budget on Monday or next week, IMO."
chattels: " raise the House of Representatives today to its regular Wednesday " http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1Y8p9Jo
Doug_W: gee imagine that "C" more delays
chattels: Article quote: "completion of discussions over the next five days"? [so maybe the budget being put off until next month may not be true?] Maybe, but discussions, even if timely and completed, may not result in a vote...?
We have yet to hear from the Kurds about the budget. ...even if the budget is passed then what significance has it for our event? Just observing the ink content without much expectation of anything from/on the budget relevant to our event.
chattels: " ........discussions, even if timely and completed, may not result in a vote.. "
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› Not hard to figure, eh ?
chattels: Why pundits insist upon opining that events are urgent, necessary or immediate defies my understanding.
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2 Thank You
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