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Saturday, October 3, 2015

Wealthwatch Member Chat  10-03-15    Part 2 of  2

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Wealthwatch Member Chat  10-03-15    Part 2 of  2


MichelleL: Yes chattels, but if the PM has no power to cause the arrest of M, he should at the very least be able to halt his interference?

chattels: ‹@MichelleL› The Iraqi PM is a creature of Parliament, he is not a Judicial officer

MichelleL: frustrating as all getup - sounds like this isn't going anywhere anytime soon

chattels: His power comes from Parliament and there are branches of government which are to serve their respective roles - a balance of power

MichelleL: apparently Parliament has no need/reason to change anything as long as they continued to get paid??

MichelleL: seems the people are the ones who suffer, never the government

chattels: Much abridged by Maliki, but Abadi to be different must conduct himself different - otherwise it is a nation of men and Abadi is just another man - the latest PM
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MichelleL: thanks Chattels

chattels: ‹@MichelleL› there are arguable parallels in all democratic governments

MichelleL: yes, I see very little difference as to the ineffectiveness

chattels: ‹@MichelleL› What is happening is good news potentially, but it is not instantaneous in results

MichelleL: Hahahaha chattels, talk about understatement

chattels: Keep the faith and pray for justice

MichelleL: what was this "October deadline?"

MichelleL: will do chattels

chattels: justice for Iraqis and divine intervention for us :)

MichelleL: lol

chattels: and our event :)

Donnie: ‹@MichelleL› i thought it had to do with a blacklist which Iraq satisfied a couple weeks ago

MichelleL: its ok chattels, decided I can live in a tent as long as I have internet service lol

chattels: ‹@MichelleL› Anti Money Laundering Legislation

 chattels: Frankly, I am not at all sure that Iraq has " fully " complied

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 MichelleL: Thanks chattels, donnie - I think I'll enjoy the first coolish day here and take a trip away from iraq until later this afternoon :)

chattels: ‹@MichelleL› Have a fine day :)

chattels: Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi attacked the corruption he described as "the ruler and commander of necessity" in previous governments, including the distribution of donations in times of elections.

Ebadi said at a news conference, "are continuing to reduce government spending and we Qllnah either to the lowest level of wealth that has been lost over the past years and how it happened that this needs to be held accountable."

He announced Abadi: we provided 700 billion dinars from three presidencies to reduce the salaries and asked Abadi, "Why does not have a cash reserve government," noting "received government in its treasury only $ 3 billion and there are $ 15 billion in debt and we are up to the month of July we pay benefits oil companies for the past years."

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chattels: "The prime minister pointed out that" the distribution of donations in times of election corruption must account for it and we started so being corrupt exploit the elections to push Shi is not the king of the ruling because he belongs to the Iraqi people, ".

chattels: Mr.Maliki used the reserves heavily at election time for " donations " according to some news reports

Donnie: ‹@chattels›  lol LOL the old "buying votes" scheme

chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 4m4 minutes ago #Iraq's Sunni defence minister today survived questioning for alleged corruption in parliament. Case now closed. http://ift.tt/1CjzoR7... …

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chattels: ended the questioning of the House of Representatives Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi hearing Baknaath answers to the minister on Asailh

A parliamentary source told all of Iraq [where]: "The House of Representatives voted Baknaath answers to questions prepared by (Question 26) to the Minister of Defense to answer around the security situation in the country and editing operations provinces T_haa Daash terrorist gangs" .

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 chattels: House of Representatives decided today to raise its meeting next Monday. http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...

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 chattels: ‹@Donnie› :)

chattels: BAGHDAD / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / described the MP for the coalition of state law Huda Carpets law the mandate of the three presidencies is unconstitutional and can not be passed. The Iraqi News / Nina / National Agency there are many reasons not to pass this law,

including the lack of political agreement on a constitutional amendment before passing a law to determine the state of the three presidencies to ensure that no undone by the Federal Court.

"She Carpets" The second issue of constitutional, constitution came clear and never in Article 72 thereof, which defined the mandate of the president to two terms absolute and left for the Prime Minister and the President of the House of Representatives.

 "She said "There is a constitutional article which stated in Article 76 of the Constitution is that the president assigns the candidate of the parliamentary blocs most numerous formation of the government and this absolute text of a right can not be restricted by law,

 but constitutional text because the constitution if he wanted otherwise would have been said that this is not the candidate held the post for two.

"The Presidency of Parliament yesterday postponed the second reading of a bill defining the mandates of the three presidencies at the request of a number of parliamentary blocs for the purpose of discussion.

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chattels: One would expect the foregoing rhetoric from a State of Law Coalition ( Maliki's party ) member

chattels: " lack of political agreement on a constitutional amendment before passing a law to determine the state of the three presidencies to ensure that no undone by the Federal Court. "

chattels: She is referring to the Federal Court ruling on the constitutionality of the term limitation law which Parliament passed before the last election

chattels: The constitutional issues were very narrow in that case and had to do with very technical grounds regarding the origination of the legislation

chattels: Her conclusion is flawed, i think, from a constitutional law perspective, but I confess that I am not a constitutional law expert :)

chattels: Architecture / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / the MP for the coalition of state law Mohammed Saadoun Chihod that the lack of a strategic vision of the Iraqi economy made ​​him a unilateral Source reliance on oil, which has affected negatively on the financial budget.

He said Chihod reporter National Iraqi News Agency / NINA Supply / demand: Iraq is a big and serious political, security and military challenges, economic, social, and perhaps the most prominent of these challenges is the drop in world oil prices with the product increased in some countries that do not want Iraq to promote its economy,

noting that "other economic sources of development of the agricultural, industrial and commercial such as investing crashes caused by the existence of internal and external Iyad wants to weaken Iraq and make it unable to advancement of its riches.

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chattels: " Iraq is a big and serious political, security and military challenges, economic, social, and perhaps the most prominent of these challenges is the drop in world oil prices "

sczin11: FIRST MAHMOUD, THEN MINISTER OF ELECTRICITY, NOW MIN OF DEFENSE

luckyinkentucky: when Iranian oil hits the markets, it will be an even bigger challenge

sczin11: YOU THINK SOMETHING BREWING BEHIND THE SCENES? BIG NAMES IN CORRUPTION, ALL BEING EXHONERATED???

Parliament renews its confidence in the Minister of Defense 03/10/2015 15:44 Long-Presse / Baghdad The voice of the Iraqi Council of Representatives, Saturday, to renew confidence in the Minister of Defense Khalid al-Obeidi, after the conviction Pajupth.

A parliamentary source said in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The House of Representatives renewed confidence Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi, after the conviction Pajupth during the 26th Legislative Chapter of the first second legislative year, which was held, the meeting today.

" The source, who asked not to be named, said: "120 deputies were convinced al-Obeidi with answers, while 68 others have not been convinced by the answers", adding that "20 deputies kept on the answers the minister."

chattels: Again, State of Law criticizing a lack of vision when they have been the party in power for eight years previous seems misguided

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sczin11: ‹@chattels› sorry,mthght u were done

chattels: ‹@sczin11› I am never done LOL

chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› I did read an article just the other day that said that said Iranian oil would have little impact in the near term

luckyinkentucky: good to hear

chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› whether fact of fiction i know not :)

luckyinkentucky: ‹@chattels› in your opinion, what is the biggest challenge that Iraq faces as far as increasing their currency value? ....security, laws, corruption?

sczin11: ANOTHER OBSERVATION... THE REPORT OF THE FALL OF MOSUL, BEING PLAYED WITH, THROWN IN THE PICTURE, OUT OF THE PICTURE, UNDER THE BUS, IN THE WASHING MACHINE, ETC...

YET THE HOR QUESTIONINGS OF THE BIG NAME MINISTERS ACCUSED OF CORRUPTION, CONTINUE, WITHOUT WORRIES, AND CERTAINLY WITHOUT CHANGE , ON THE CONTRARY, WITH EXHONERATION.... THINK ABOUT IT

chattels: Haider Al-Abadi Government spending cuts in the salaries of the three presidencies provided us with 700 billion dinars, and we will continue the actions that will reduce spending

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TxBrand: wow

chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› I try not to think / speak outside of my competence level

chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› " Iraq is a big and serious political, security and military challenges, economic, social, and perhaps the most prominent of these challenges is the drop in world oil prices " http://ift.tt/1LKsacv....

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chattels: Without cash flow ( oil sales / 90 % of the Iraqi budget ) and the reduction in reserves posed by all of the many problems mentioned seems most critical, eh ?

chattels: ‹@sczin11› Whachu thinkin' ?

sczin11: ‹@chattels› I COULDVE WRITTEN THAT RESPONSE FOR U, LOL

 sczin11: ITS WHAT I HAVE BEEN STATING ALL ALONG..IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME, THAT ABADI AND HIS LEGAL ADVISORS AND SUPPORTERS, WOULD NOT EXPECT THE RESULTS WE ARE NOT BELIEVING....

THIS MUST BE PART OF THEIR PLAN...WE JUST HAVE TO WATCH IT UNFOLD

sczin11: WHAT IS EQUALLING TROUBLING TO ME, IS THE COSTS, GIVEN THEIR SUPPOSED FINANCIAL CRISIS AND AUSTERITY STATE, OF ALL OF THESE WASTED HOR MEETINGS, WITH FAIRLY GOOD PRESCENSE IN MOST CASES NOW, THE TIME,MTHE MONEY, BEING SPENT ON THE MPS BEING THERE,

THE ELECTRICITY COSTS IN THE BLDNG, JUST TO COME OUT WITH NOTHING..

LOOK AT THIRSDAY HOR AND TODAY... DID THEY REALLY NEED TO VOTE ON INCOME TAX LAW AMMENDMENT?

 IF THEY CANT BUY PRODUCTS FOR SURVIVAL NOW, AND THEY CANT PAY TARIFFS AND CUSTOMS AS THEY ARE TOO BROKE FOR SURVIVAL, HOW CAN THEY PAY INCOME TAXES? WITH WHAT?

BUT SPENT ENTIRE SESSION, TO READ VERSE FROM KORAN, AND FIDDLE THROUGH SOME PAPERS..FOR THE MOST PART...WITH ALL THE "IMPORTANT" LAWS , MANY JUST WAITING FOR A VOTE

] sczin11: SITTING ON SOME SECTYS DESK

luckyinkentucky: whatever happened to democracies being For the people?

sczin11: THAT IS THE ABADI PLAN

sczin11: SO HE STATES

luckyinkentucky: took the words out of my mouth

chattels: My sense is that the Abadi government is engaged in an honest struggle for the advance / survival of the democratic experiment that is Iraq. Will they make it ? Outcome not known, IMO.

luckyinkentucky: I agree. They still have much work to do

sczin11: THOSE ARE THE GUESSES THAT MAKE UP OPINIONS.... WE TRULY DO NOT KNOW, WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW!

newbieDA: Abadi gives al-Maliki 48 hours to evacuated offices and headquarters own Bmsbh 03-10-2015 12:58 PM Demanded the Iraqi prime minister, Haydar al-Abadi, former Prime Minister and Vice President of the article Republic,

Nuri al-Maliki, the evacuation of the headquarters and offices for his position as deputy president after he was sacked from the post. An informed source in Maliki's office, who declined to be named in a press statement followed the news,

 "The Iraqi prime minister, Haydar al-Abadi, gave a 48-hour deadline for the owners to evacuate offices and headquarters for former Bmansbah as Prime Minister and Vice President of the Republic, especially after his dismissal from the last position within the reformist campaign led by al-Abadi."

The source added that "a formal letter from Ebadi's office arrived Maliki in this regard, asking him to re offices and headquarters occupied by the official to the concerned authorities in the government delivery ". http://ift.tt/1M89FcO

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sczin11: ‹@newbieDA› ZGM

chattels: Where and how monetary / banking reform / currency valuation fits into all of it is our great interest.

newbieDA: ‹@luckyinkentucky› that was called a republic

sczin11: ‹@chattels› AND THAT MY FRIEND, AS YOU KNOW, WE WILL NEVER KNOW FOR CERTAINTY, UNTIL, MAYBE, AFTER THE FACT...ALL WE CAN DO NOW IS GUESS/OPINE

 [10:04:16 AM] newbieDA: we are suppose to be and act like a republic too http://www.youtube.com/watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdS6fyUIklI

chattels: I am fairly satisfied, as Donnie likes to observe, that there is no " button " to push.

luckyinkentucky: me 2

sczin11: ‹@chattels› AND THANK YOU, AS WELL....FOR YOUR ASTUTE UNDERSTANDING, COMMENTARY, ON ALL THE ARABISH, WE ALL FIND SO DIFFICULT TO DIGEST...

MOST IMPORTANT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEVOTION TO THE HELP OF US ALL, IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY WANT US TO SEE, AND KNOW.... YOU ARE , IMHO, AS I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES, THE PREMIER RESEARCHER IN DINAR LAND, AND WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU HOUSED HERE AT WEALTHWATCH.WORLD! THANK YOU AGAIN

chattels: ‹@sczin11› The hope that springs eternal out of human suffering as the poet says.

chattels: Anyone notice how " presidential " the photo ops have become for Abadi - very dignified - http://ift.tt/1M89FcM...

luckyinkentucky: these facebook pages won't open for me. Is that cause we're not friends?

chattels: Haider Al-Abadi Who oppose the reforms they know it will reach them ..lcunnina will not retreat and are getting more determined to continue the reform and the fight against corruption

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chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› Not sure - Donnie may know

chattels: Vice President of the Republic (Almrhq) Nuri al-Maliki with the Minister of Defence Croatia Croatian role in the fight against terrorist gangs Daash. A statement from Maliki's office, received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it, the two sides discussed today in Baghdad, "developments in the political and security situation and efforts to combat terrorism

 The statement added, that al-Maliki "stressed the need to strengthen military and security cooperation between the two countries, and to benefit from the experiences of Croatia in various fields, "he said, adding, that" Iraq wants to consolidate its relations with the countries of the world on the basis of respect and sharing common interests.

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chattels: there is that " fly on the wall " again - " Vice President of the Republic (Almrhq) Nuri al-Maliki "

chattels: Of course it is a press release from Mr. Maliki's office, but he is clearly meeting with State representatives

] Donnie: ‹@luckyinkentucky› "The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in."

chattels: ‹@luckyinkentucky› do you want to be a part of my " audience " ? :)

Donnie: You may have to be Friends or have Joined the group this like is trying to get to OR the object has been removed.

luckyinkentucky: that's what it says

luckyinkentucky: yes I do

Donnie: *link not like

chattels: you can sign up to follow Abadi and get the facebook posts directly, eh ?

luckyinkentucky: I will try that

chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 3m3 minutes ago Request for #Iraq defence minister to be questioned by parliament today had been made by Hanan al-Fatlawi, formerly strong Maliki supporter.

chattels: formerly ?

Donnie: House of Representatives end the questioning of the Minister of Defense 03/10/2015

Donnie: Finished houses twenty-sixth Minutes normal, which was held under the chairmanship of Dr. Salim al-Jubouri, President of the Council and in the presence of 265 deputy Saturday 3/10/2015, questioning Mr. Khalid al-Obeidi, the defense minister. http://ift.tt/1CjzoR7...

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chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 1h1 hour ago #Iraq's Sunni defence minister today survived questioning for alleged corruption in parliament. Case now closed. http://ift.tt/1CjzoR7... …

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chattels: Lots of military reports today on Coalition action in Anbar Province and elsewhere http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...

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