Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 10-25-15
Wealthwatch Sunday Chat 10-25-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: the legal expert Tareq Harb said, that the Presidency of Massoud Barzani of the Kurdistan region are illegal, and that the prime minister Haider al-Abadi has the right to interfere. He said war told all of Iraq [where]
"The prime minister is authorized to intervene in accordance with Article 78 of the Iraqi Constitution, because he is responsible for all including the provincial state," explaining that "Article 78 of the Constitution stipulates that the prime minister is the direct executive responsible to the state and has the right to take any action.
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Wealthwatch Sunday Chat 10-25-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: the legal expert Tareq Harb said, that the Presidency of Massoud Barzani of the Kurdistan region are illegal, and that the prime minister Haider al-Abadi has the right to interfere. He said war told all of Iraq [where]
"The prime minister is authorized to intervene in accordance with Article 78 of the Iraqi Constitution, because he is responsible for all including the provincial state," explaining that "Article 78 of the Constitution stipulates that the prime minister is the direct executive responsible to the state and has the right to take any action.
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"He said the war to be" the presence of Barzani unconstitutional and illegal because the prescribed period in office ended, "noting that" Massoud Barzani, the beneficiary of the non-Kurdish parties agreement to stay more time in power. : http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
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chattels: So, now the dysfunctional government in Baghdad is contemplating interceding in the KRG. What a laugh !
chattels: spokesman for the popular crowd MP Ahmad al-Asadi said on Sunday that Iraq stands in the first row in defense of the whole world.chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk..
http://ift.tt/1R7hB1T
chattels: Iraq Security Forces were running to the " back row " leaving equipment, arms and uniforms last year.
chattels: spokesman crowd the popular MP Ahmad al-Asadi on Sunday, said that the process of Hawija violation of Iraq's sovereignty and the government to take a firm stand them. He said al-Asadi told all of Iraq [where] that "Hawija process by the US forces with the help of the Kurds is a violation of Iraq's sovereignty in the absence of the Baghdad government aware of them."
He added that "in the case familiar with the central government process Hawija, it must explain the reasons for doing it." chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1GBsN6i
chattels: Is saving the lives of 70+ Iraqis not sufficient reason ?
chattels: Not a word of condolence for the killed in action American, MSgt. Wheeler or his family, from any Arab.
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - A Kurdish official said Sunday that the Iraqi government had not been informed of a joint raid by Kurdish Peshmerga forces and US commandos to save hostages held by the Islamic State group (ISIS). Fuad Hussein, the Kurdistan region’s presidential chief of staff, revealed in an interview with Turkey’s TRT World news that that authorities in Erbil did not have advance knowledge of the identities of the hostages in Thursday’s rescue operation in an ISIS prison in Hawija, Iraq.
“We hoped there would be some Kurdish Peshmerga hostages in there because the terrorists (ISIS) had caught some Peshmerga hostages and we thought some of those people were there,” TRT quoted Hussein as saying. “We knew there were hostages there, but we did not know their identities,” he added.
“Anyhow, we saved the lives of 69 innocent people.” Hussein rejected claims that Baghdad was aware of the operation, citing the distance between the Kurdish and Iraqi war fronts. Hussein also denied having any knowledge of information on ISIS that was reportedly seized at the site of the raid, but confirmed that six militants had been killed.
US Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said late Thursday that the Iraqi government had been informed of the operation. "As for the hostage rescue operation I would like to make a few points: No.1, the Iraqi government was informed of this operation," said cook.
"We conducted this operation in our advise and assist capacity. "There has been no change in our policy (and) we are not conducting combat operations in Iraq,” he added. Cook said: "Kurdish regional authorities requested American assistance to rescue hostages held by Daesh (ISIS), we agreed to provide helicopters to transport Kurdish forces."
"Kurdish forces attacked the Daesh prison where hostages being held, Kurdish forces killed 15 guards and freed 70 hostages," he added. Cook expressed regret for the one American soldier killed in the operation. He revealed that "the hostages have now to
chattels: He revealed that "the hostages have now told us they were to be executed that same day after morning prayer." Kurdistan Region Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani issued condolences for the death of the US soldier, Master Sgt. Joshua L. Wheeler. “
On behalf of Kurdistan Regional Government and Kurdish people, I express my condolences to the family and friends of the brave soldier, and I wish speedy recovery for the wounded Peshmerga,” Barzani said in a statement. : http://ift.tt/1Ny5Ort.
http://ift.tt/1LPllBz
chattels: "We conducted this operation in our advise and assist capacity. "There has been no change in our policy (and) we are not conducting combat operations in Iraq,” he added.
chattels: It must be a very close at hand and in harm's way " advise and assist capacity ", eh ?
chattels: the oil ministry said on Sunday, the launch of the third scientific conference of oil and gas in the Maysan province next Wednesday. According to a ministry statement received by the agency all of Iraq [where] a copy of which was "in the presence of Oil Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, and under the banner of [wealth hydrocarbon ensure a better life] will launch the Third Scientific Conference for oil and gas in the Maysan province on Wednesday."
He added that "This conference comes Within the concerns of the ministry and its eagerness to support national capacities in the areas of science and research and competencies in the oil, energy, environment and occupational health and safety sectors as well as advanced technology in this area. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1jJlbos
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› hello ! no condoleance's from any arab's ?? was there any when we took saddam down ! and the 4 thousand plus live's lost
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› Don't know - was not reading Iraqi news in those days
chattels: US President Barack Obama announced, seeking to strengthen the partnership with Iraq and to work to put an end to the war in Syria. chattels:http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk.
http://ift.tt/1R7hDa5
chattels: BAGHDAD / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / called House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri of the United Nations to have an active role in the national reconciliation project expected in Iraq. chattels: http://ift.tt/1GNR4RF...
http://ift.tt/1R7hB1Z
chattels: He Jubouri at the end of his hopes "that the United Nations an active role in the upcoming project in Iraq's national reconciliation with the availability of objective and subjective conditions that became requires us hard together to work for the completion of this historic project under the auspices of UN reservation of Iraqi sovereignty and be the subject of a national consensus Iraqis get it out of the dark tunnel".
chattels: " .............. the national reconciliation project expected in Iraq.", and .................... " the upcoming project in Iraq's national reconciliation ................ "
chattels: " expected and upcoming national reconciliation "
chattels: project noun proj·ect ˈprä-ˌjekt, -jikt also ˈprō- : a planned piece of work that has a specific purpose (such as to find information or to make something new) and that usually requires a lot of time : a task or problem in school that requires careful work over a long period of time
chattels: " over a long period of time "
chattels: I have commented several times that the " national reconciliation " is not an event, but a process.
chattels: National reconciliation in Iraq remains elusive The latest statement on the “national reconciliation” in Iraq was made by Vice President Iyad Allawi on March 2, 2015, in which he noted, “A true reconciliation should include all parties except for the ones who have Iraqi blood on their hands.”
Summary⎙ Print Since the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, the national reconciliation project has been subject to several interpretations, as the separation between the innocent and “those who have Iraqi blood on their hands” is still ambiguous. Author Mushreq Abbas Posted March 20, 2015 This expression has been repeated several times by Allawi himself, as well as different political, intellectual, tribal and religious leaders since 2003.
It has been repeatedly associated with ambiguity concerning who should and should not be included in the reconciliation. Strangely enough, despite holding hundreds of meetings and conferences on the issue, no party has been able since 2003 to form a clear legal basis to determine who has Iraqi blood on their hands and who is innocent.
chattels: The concept of national reconciliation was proposed by Iraqi politicians in the first months of the US occupation of Iraq in 2003. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1jJldwy
http://ift.tt/1jJlboo
chattels: So, now the dysfunctional government in Baghdad is contemplating interceding in the KRG. What a laugh !
chattels: spokesman for the popular crowd MP Ahmad al-Asadi said on Sunday that Iraq stands in the first row in defense of the whole world.chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk..
http://ift.tt/1R7hB1T
chattels: Iraq Security Forces were running to the " back row " leaving equipment, arms and uniforms last year.
chattels: spokesman crowd the popular MP Ahmad al-Asadi on Sunday, said that the process of Hawija violation of Iraq's sovereignty and the government to take a firm stand them. He said al-Asadi told all of Iraq [where] that "Hawija process by the US forces with the help of the Kurds is a violation of Iraq's sovereignty in the absence of the Baghdad government aware of them."
He added that "in the case familiar with the central government process Hawija, it must explain the reasons for doing it." chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1GBsN6i
chattels: Is saving the lives of 70+ Iraqis not sufficient reason ?
chattels: Not a word of condolence for the killed in action American, MSgt. Wheeler or his family, from any Arab.
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - A Kurdish official said Sunday that the Iraqi government had not been informed of a joint raid by Kurdish Peshmerga forces and US commandos to save hostages held by the Islamic State group (ISIS). Fuad Hussein, the Kurdistan region’s presidential chief of staff, revealed in an interview with Turkey’s TRT World news that that authorities in Erbil did not have advance knowledge of the identities of the hostages in Thursday’s rescue operation in an ISIS prison in Hawija, Iraq.
“We hoped there would be some Kurdish Peshmerga hostages in there because the terrorists (ISIS) had caught some Peshmerga hostages and we thought some of those people were there,” TRT quoted Hussein as saying. “We knew there were hostages there, but we did not know their identities,” he added.
“Anyhow, we saved the lives of 69 innocent people.” Hussein rejected claims that Baghdad was aware of the operation, citing the distance between the Kurdish and Iraqi war fronts. Hussein also denied having any knowledge of information on ISIS that was reportedly seized at the site of the raid, but confirmed that six militants had been killed.
US Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said late Thursday that the Iraqi government had been informed of the operation. "As for the hostage rescue operation I would like to make a few points: No.1, the Iraqi government was informed of this operation," said cook.
"We conducted this operation in our advise and assist capacity. "There has been no change in our policy (and) we are not conducting combat operations in Iraq,” he added. Cook said: "Kurdish regional authorities requested American assistance to rescue hostages held by Daesh (ISIS), we agreed to provide helicopters to transport Kurdish forces."
"Kurdish forces attacked the Daesh prison where hostages being held, Kurdish forces killed 15 guards and freed 70 hostages," he added. Cook expressed regret for the one American soldier killed in the operation. He revealed that "the hostages have now to
chattels: He revealed that "the hostages have now told us they were to be executed that same day after morning prayer." Kurdistan Region Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani issued condolences for the death of the US soldier, Master Sgt. Joshua L. Wheeler. “
On behalf of Kurdistan Regional Government and Kurdish people, I express my condolences to the family and friends of the brave soldier, and I wish speedy recovery for the wounded Peshmerga,” Barzani said in a statement. : http://ift.tt/1Ny5Ort.
http://ift.tt/1LPllBz
chattels: "We conducted this operation in our advise and assist capacity. "There has been no change in our policy (and) we are not conducting combat operations in Iraq,” he added.
chattels: It must be a very close at hand and in harm's way " advise and assist capacity ", eh ?
chattels: the oil ministry said on Sunday, the launch of the third scientific conference of oil and gas in the Maysan province next Wednesday. According to a ministry statement received by the agency all of Iraq [where] a copy of which was "in the presence of Oil Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, and under the banner of [wealth hydrocarbon ensure a better life] will launch the Third Scientific Conference for oil and gas in the Maysan province on Wednesday."
He added that "This conference comes Within the concerns of the ministry and its eagerness to support national capacities in the areas of science and research and competencies in the oil, energy, environment and occupational health and safety sectors as well as advanced technology in this area. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1jJlbos
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› hello ! no condoleance's from any arab's ?? was there any when we took saddam down ! and the 4 thousand plus live's lost
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› Don't know - was not reading Iraqi news in those days
chattels: US President Barack Obama announced, seeking to strengthen the partnership with Iraq and to work to put an end to the war in Syria. chattels:http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk.
http://ift.tt/1R7hDa5
chattels: BAGHDAD / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / called House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri of the United Nations to have an active role in the national reconciliation project expected in Iraq. chattels: http://ift.tt/1GNR4RF...
http://ift.tt/1R7hB1Z
chattels: He Jubouri at the end of his hopes "that the United Nations an active role in the upcoming project in Iraq's national reconciliation with the availability of objective and subjective conditions that became requires us hard together to work for the completion of this historic project under the auspices of UN reservation of Iraqi sovereignty and be the subject of a national consensus Iraqis get it out of the dark tunnel".
chattels: " .............. the national reconciliation project expected in Iraq.", and .................... " the upcoming project in Iraq's national reconciliation ................ "
chattels: " expected and upcoming national reconciliation "
chattels: project noun proj·ect ˈprä-ˌjekt, -jikt also ˈprō- : a planned piece of work that has a specific purpose (such as to find information or to make something new) and that usually requires a lot of time : a task or problem in school that requires careful work over a long period of time
chattels: " over a long period of time "
chattels: I have commented several times that the " national reconciliation " is not an event, but a process.
chattels: National reconciliation in Iraq remains elusive The latest statement on the “national reconciliation” in Iraq was made by Vice President Iyad Allawi on March 2, 2015, in which he noted, “A true reconciliation should include all parties except for the ones who have Iraqi blood on their hands.”
Summary⎙ Print Since the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, the national reconciliation project has been subject to several interpretations, as the separation between the innocent and “those who have Iraqi blood on their hands” is still ambiguous. Author Mushreq Abbas Posted March 20, 2015 This expression has been repeated several times by Allawi himself, as well as different political, intellectual, tribal and religious leaders since 2003.
It has been repeatedly associated with ambiguity concerning who should and should not be included in the reconciliation. Strangely enough, despite holding hundreds of meetings and conferences on the issue, no party has been able since 2003 to form a clear legal basis to determine who has Iraqi blood on their hands and who is innocent.
chattels: The concept of national reconciliation was proposed by Iraqi politicians in the first months of the US occupation of Iraq in 2003. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1jJldwy
chattels: The repeated and pointless questions by the political and intellectual elites regarding the failure of the reconciliation resurfaced, while former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki continued to reiterate throughout his years in office (2006-2014) that the national reconciliation had achieved its objectives — mainly achieving civil peace, which did not happen in Iraq.
chattels: Reality proved that reconciliation was never reached in Iraq. Neither the government nor any party seriously and honestly sought to achieve it.
chattels: After the Islamic State (IS) took over vast lands in Iraq, occupying several cities on June 9, 2014, the concept of national reconciliation became more complex than ever.
chattels: National Reconciliation is the term used for establishment of so-called 'national unity' in countries beset with political problems.
chattels: Reality proved that reconciliation was never reached in Iraq. Neither the government nor any party seriously and honestly sought to achieve it.
chattels: After the Islamic State (IS) took over vast lands in Iraq, occupying several cities on June 9, 2014, the concept of national reconciliation became more complex than ever.
chattels: National Reconciliation is the term used for establishment of so-called 'national unity' in countries beset with political problems.
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