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Thursday, June 25, 2015

Wealthwatch Member Chat Discussion 6-25-15

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1- Late Night 6-24-15 OOTW & Chattels Chat Discussion


2- Early Evening 6-25-15 Sczin11 & Member Chat Discussion

chattels: Displaced Iraqis still wait to return home SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq — Some Iraqis displaced from Tikrit returned on June 15, 2015, in a positive sign for the struggle against the Islamic State. A true victory will see not only the land freed, but also its residents returned and restored to normal life.

chattels: Regardless of the mutual accusations, it remains true that a victory over IS in the liberated areas will only be fully achieved after the return of their residents. Tikrit seems to have fully vanquished IS, while the battle is still unresolved in Jurf al-Sakhar and in the regions whose displaced residents have yet to return.
chattels:    http://ift.tt/1Ngj0Rq

OOTW: I THOUGHT TODAY'S CHAT WAS FULL OF SOLID INFORMATION

OOTW: SERIOUSLY

OOTW: I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT MUCH GOVT CONFIRMATION IN ONE DAY

OOTW: ABOUT ANY ONE TOPIC

OOTW: WHAT THAT RESULTS IN, I DO NOT KNOW

OOTW: MMMMM ME TOO

Chattels: ‹@OOTW› I simply cannot be too hopeful given that Iraqi is not safe or secure under the present circumstances, IMO

OOTW: I UNDERSTAND

OOTW: THERE'S A LOT TO BE CONCERNED WITH

OOTW: BUT..YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT MANY STILL WANT TO INVEST IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR EVEN WITH ALL THE STRIFE

chattels: I hope that I am wrong - I would like to be, but I cannot " bet " on it.

OOTW: THAT DOES WARRANT CONSIDERATION I THINK

OOTW: I UNDERSTAND

OOTW: I'LL TELL YOU I'LL NEVER EVER SELL MY DINAR UNTIL WE HAVE TO

OOTW: AND I AM A SKEPTIC BY NATURE BELIEVE IT OR NOT

OOTW: IT'S LATE THERE AREN'T YOU TIRED? LOL

chattels: ‹@OOTW› I am not selling because fortunately i do not have to elect between ultimate outcome and present survival

OOTW: I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A CHOICE

chattels: ‹@OOTW› i sleep for several hours when i get home from work

OOTW: AH OK

OOTW: THAT EXPLAINS THAT LOL

OOTW: WHAT'S THE WEATHER DOING THERE? HORRIBLE?

OOTW: WINNERDINAR TOLD ME YOU BROUGHT IN A GOOD ARTICLE ON THE OIL AND GAS LAW?

OOTW: DID YOU POST IT IN THE FORUMS?

chattels: thunderstorms just now - we needed the rain and the electrical event to cool off the atmsphere

OOTW: YES WE HAD THE SAME HERE TODAY, TORNADO AS WELL

chattels: ‹@OOTW› i think - it came from dinarvets as i recall

OOTW: OK I'LL TAKE A LOOK TY

chattels: ‹@OOTW› so very sorry for the sadness that must be for winnerdinar

OOTW: YES ME TOO

OOTW: THERE'S A CHANCE SHE'LL BE ABLE TO BREATH ON HER OWN AFTER THEY TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT, BUT TO LIVE WITHOUT BRAIN FUNCTION - HORRIBLE

chattels: ‹@OOTW› the oil and gas article mentions a 2007 draft - kinda curious

OOTW: OK I'M STILL LOOKING FOR IT

chattels:  here : http://ift.tt/1BF5Ix4

OOTW: THANKS HON

OOTW: THIS IS WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONE LAW I'M NOT INCREDIBLY STRONG ON BECAUSE THE INFORMATION I READ ABOUT IT VARIES SO MUCH

OOTW: ARE WE LOOKING FOR HYDROCARBON INFO

OOTW: ARE WE LOOKING FOR PAYMENT STRUCTURE?

OOTW: BOTH?

OOTW: BECAUSE

OOTW: THE 2010 BUDGET WHICH WAS "RE INSTITUTED" LAST SUMMER CLEARLY OUTLINED HOW THE KURDS WERE TO GET PAID AND ALSO THE 2015 BUDGET SPECIFIES THEIR PAYMENTS ALSO

OOTW: I DO NOT BUY INTO DINAR LORE THAT THIS IS A TRIGGER FOR AN "RV"

chattels: it is control of payment and determination of percentages, IMO

chattels: as you know there is a constitutional distinction between oil wells pre2003 and post 2003

chattels: according to the Kurds Baghdad has no respect for the constitution

OOTW: YES AND ESP AFTER NEW ONES HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED

OOTW: WELL IF THAT'S THE CASE (SOLELY) THEN THEY OIL AND GAS LAW IS DONE AND ONLY PAYMENTS NEED TO BE MADE AND PERHAPS A CENSUS

chattels: it is violated all the time from the Kurds perspective, so the only protection they have is a pragmatic one

OOTW: YES, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT

chattels: if the money goes to Baghdad then the Kurds will always be " cheated "

OOTW: YES

chattels: SOMO vs. KOMO is huge

chattels: IMO

OOTW: THEY ONLY NEED TO GET THEIR CENSUS DONE ACCDNG TO ALL I'VE READ SO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN TERMS

OOTW: YES IT IS

OOTW: THEY'LL STAY WITH IRAQ, BUT GET THIS WORKED OUT

chattels: the provincial law may be a means of " saving face " for all

OOTW: YES AND IT IS GRADUALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED, PROVINCE BY PROVINCE THE KIRKUK ARTICLE ON THIS WAS VERY GOOD TODAY

OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...

chattels: it is the age old struggle between federalism and " states " rights, IMO

OOTW: UNLIKE OTHERS AT DV, WHO HAVE ANALYZED THIS, I BELIEVE ZEBARI IS MAKING A CASE TO NOT RELY ON THE DOLLAR

OOTW: EXACTLY

chattels: central government and control vs. local

OOTW: YES PERSONALLY I WISH THE FEDS WOULD STAY OUT OF THE STATES' BUSINESS

chattels: Maliki was all about federalism

OOTW: ABSOLUTELY

chattels: this administration ( U.S.A. ) supports that approach

OOTW: YES - AND HOW ;)

chattels: it is what our civil war was about no matter what the controvery over race continues to be / say

OOTW: WELL ****** SO I MUST SIGN OFF NOW...I HOPE WE GET TO TALK MORE OFTEN, WE DO IN FACT SHARE SIMILAR VIEWS ON SOME ISSUES :)

OOTW: YES

chattels: union vs. self determination

OOTW: YES GIVE THE POWER TO THE STATES

chattels: ok, understood, laterz

OOTW: AND LET THE FEDS STEP IN ONLY WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY

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Early Evening 6-25-15 Sczin11 & Member Chat Discussion

sczin11: IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY NEWS DAY, HENCE NO PRESCENCE IN CHAT, BY ME ANYHOW...LOL...FORUM IS LOADED...SO MANY DOTS BEING CONNECTED, AND MANY OTHERS TO PONDER

sczin11: MALIKI, KEYWORDS, MASSUM, MOP, MOT, INTEGRITY, ICC....

Doug_W: English 11

Doug_W: or is it gazuntite

MichelleL: saw some stuff earlier, ready to do my reading :) but if you want to give us the cliff notes, they're always appreciated

sczin11: HOR COMING BACK TO WORK

Doug_W: HOW?

Doug_W: hoR

MichelleL: head of republic?

MichelleL: saw something about hor before - in the forum

sczin11: STATE OF LAW SAYING NO AMNESTY IF WAR CRIMINALS ARE INCLUDED...ALLAWI AND HASHEMI MUST BE EXCLUDED FROM AMNESTY

MichelleL: so they are excluding hashemi and allawi - and where does maliki stand in this ?

MichelleL: state of law conclude he's innocent?

sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› House of representatives

KiwiDoc: If the State of Law people are going down likely they don't want to be alone

Doug_W: AHH ty

sczin11: MEDIA STATES ABADI AND MASSUM AGREE MALIKI MUST GO DOWN

sczin11: MASSUM DENIES THIS AND TELLS MEDIA TO GROW UP

MichelleL: massum seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth simultaneously

sczin11: 2012 PROFITS FROM BIG COMPANY BEING PAID AS BONUSES TO THE CITIZENS ON SUNDAY...2 YEARS AGO FISCAL YEAR

sczin11: ZAIN URAQ BEING INVESTIGATED BY INTEGRITY FOR.......

sczin11: A FORM OF INSIDER TRADING YOU MIGHT SAY

sczin11: SUPPOSED TO GO PUBLUC ON USX 2010.. COMPANY VALUE 6 BILLION DOLLARS...

sczin11: DIDNT GO FOR 5 years...A FEW MONTHS AGO, COMPANY VALUE UP TO 9 BILLION PLUS

sczin11: WHO MADE OUT ON THAT 3 BILLION PLUS INCREASE IN VALUE? WHO DO U THINK HAD THEIR HANDS IN THAT?
MichelleL: big company - where are the profits going to?

sczin11: OVER $300 MILLION IN CBI AUCTIONS AGAIN

MichelleL: saw that when i got home today - thats day 2 or 3 in a row?

sczin11: ‹@MichelleL› 2 i think

MichelleL: thanks sczin

sczin11: HOWS THAT FOR CLIFF NOTES? OOOOOOOOO

sczin11: MALIKI LOOKS LIKE GOING TO CHARGED BY ICC

Doug_W: ICC ?

MichelleL: lol that means I read most earlier, and you're saving my eyes - but when is M going down?? lol

MichelleL: sczin how do you thing greece plays out in this?

MichelleL: or do you?

MichelleL: think

Doug_W: he always thinks M

tourman: ‹@MichelleL› they default but come up with enough dinar to take care of their problems

sczin11: ‹@MichelleL› I AM WRONG PERSON TO ASK THAT..I BELIEVE THERE IS A PLAN , IN MOTION, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLAN, AND IF WE WORRIED OR TYGHT WORLD ECONOMICS AND EMERGING MARKETS

MichelleL: tourman while that works for us, what does it do to the state of world economics? is the euro doomed?

sczin11: AFFECT THE IRAQI PLAN, EVERY DAY THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE IT

MichelleL: thanks sczin

tourman: IMO yes. the euro is toast.. In the next couple years

Doug_W: what is ICC ?

sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT...HAGUE

MichelleL: yes, and I do because IRAQ is everything sczin ROFLMAO

Doug_W: ok NOW it makes sense ty

MichelleL: tourman, it never should have happened - problem is what debris is it going to leave in its wake globally

MichelleL: we need to go to "club med candy bead necklaces" as currency

sczin11: ‹@MichelleL› OR EAT A CHOCOLATE BAR

tourman: lots of debt being forgiven world wide.. IQD becoming the premier reserve currency...

MichelleL: the euro had as much sense behind it as obamacare - clean up is going to be painful

MichelleL: sczin lol

MrDiagy: Supreme Court Approveed OCare again today

sczin11: ‹@MrDiagy› DID U BELIEVE OR JUST HOPE THEY WOULDNT?

MichelleL: saw that MrD - another political move, and we have to wonder WHO will clean up the mess - if health insurance goes up another 50% for the individual payer, there will be less and less covered

MrDiagy: ‹@sczin11› I didn't even know about it

MichelleL: not everyone qualified for this "deduction" but those who are paying their own way get to keep paying - isn't that nice. Thank God I'm only 5 years from medicare lol - hope it will still be here

sczin11: ‹@MrDiagy› o, i was just veing cute anyhow, no worries

MichelleL: lol sczin

MrDiagy: ‹@MichelleL› I got accepted for medicare this year

MrDiagy: Im getting both of my hips replaced finally!

MichelleL: I make a wish for all of us, that we don't need the healthcare - and that we have enough money to always pay our own way and get the best

sczin11: sczin11- WHY DO U THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT? IT IS FOR SURE.. Transport Minister confirms the importance of the advancement of the airline History of edits:: 2015/6/25 23:53 • 32 visits readable 

{Baghdad: Euphrates News} Transport Minister Baqer al-Zubaidi, during his visit to the headquarters of Iraqi Airways on the importance of the advancement of the company because it represents a complementary image of the facade of the country in the outside world. 

He said al-Zubaidi's office in their profile location social networking {Facebook} that "al-Zubaidi, a contract with the director of the company Mr. Osama al-Sadr and the Director of the Office of the Minister at the airport Nawfal al-Moussawi, a meeting with representatives of Lufthansa German company specialized in the field of aviation in the presence of General Manager of the lines and the Director of the Minister's Office at the airport ". 

"It has also Zubaidi toured Walker aircraft where he met employees briefed on the progress of work there as flight catering department visited and met with a representative of subsistence and noble Catering Company, which will equip the Iraqi Airways planes diets in accordance with the applicable specifications by companies Global Aviation ".anthy

sczin11: wealthwatch.world/showthr...

sczin11: MORE INTERNATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLIANCE....

sczin11: in accordance with the applicable specifications by companies Global Aviation

MrDiagy: wow

MrDiagy: SCZ lets buy the first plane ticket

sczin11: ‹@MrDiagy› Y NOT THE WHOLE PLANE

MrDiagy: lol

MrDiagy: SCZ IRAQ Airlines

sczin11: ‹@MrDiagy› JUST A THGHT...U SHOULD MAKE YOUR SURGERY PLANS STAT....CAUSE AFTER THE CHANGE IN VALUE, U WILL LOSE THE MEDICAID BENEFITS...U MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SPEAKING  W FINANCIAL ADVISOR ON ASSET PROTECTION

sczin11: ‹@MrDiagy› AND DONT TELL ME U R TAX ADVISOR , I NO THAT

sczin11: LOL

MrDiagy: ‹@sczin11› dang thanks dude I never thought of that!

MrDiagy: IMO an RV would by me much more than a hip replacement, I could be the 6 million dollar man

MrDiagy: lol    Jar taught me bout him

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