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Wealthwatch Evening Chat 9-01-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: [Follow-where] US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter revealed that his country has trained 12 000 Iraqis to fight against the terrorist organization Daash. Carter said in a speech to the annual conference of The 97 veterans in Baltimore "We still need more of these local forces" chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
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Fit2beFit: So any RV related News?
chattels: "He believed that" deliver a knockout blow to this organization means that there must be a local forces capable on the ground and stimulating to preserve the victory and only we know from experience that Daash will be defeated, but after five years or 10 years or something like that will come back.
"explained Carter" Coalition can support local forces, but he can not be a substitute for "revealing" We are so far we have trained more than 12 thousand Iraqis and we still need for more. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
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Wealthwatch Evening Chat 9-01-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: [Follow-where] US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter revealed that his country has trained 12 000 Iraqis to fight against the terrorist organization Daash. Carter said in a speech to the annual conference of The 97 veterans in Baltimore "We still need more of these local forces" chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1VvftUu
Fit2beFit: So any RV related News?
chattels: "He believed that" deliver a knockout blow to this organization means that there must be a local forces capable on the ground and stimulating to preserve the victory and only we know from experience that Daash will be defeated, but after five years or 10 years or something like that will come back.
"explained Carter" Coalition can support local forces, but he can not be a substitute for "revealing" We are so far we have trained more than 12 thousand Iraqis and we still need for more. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
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chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› What do you consider " RV " related news ?
nobody: I really do not like Maliki
nobody: Can we get up a collection to take care of him once and for all?
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... got a question for you when your not rolling
nobody: A good hit man may be 20k lol
nobody: Hey did you see al-Baghdadi has AIDS?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Is it " RV " related ? - inquiring / demanding minds want to know :)
chattels: ‹@nobody› no, I did not
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... do you give any credience to this to this isis currency?
nobody: http://ift.tt/1VvfuYD...
http://ift.tt/1NMiLRT
chattels: Credence as in does it exist ?
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... as in can they do it?
chattels: ‹@nobody› ty
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I believe that they have done it according to a report(s) some time back
BOBBY: nobody..... aids is rampant over there, we had to take tests before we went over there
chattels: Wasn't it a coin ?
chattels: or was it script ?
BOBBY: just saw an article..... not sure how valid
chattels: What circulation, use or confidence it has in the marketplace I do not know.
nobody: think they made a coin
BOBBY: i believe its in coins
nobody: made if gold
chattels: In some societies sea shells were currency - it's " value " depends upon the confidence of the users I think
chattels: gold has intrinsic and universal value as we know
chattels: according to it's weight primarily
Fit2beFit: RV related news is NOT hearing every other hour about bombings and war in iraq news
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› those things relate to security and stability which may affect the " rv " or so it occurs to me
Fit2beFit: whatever
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› But if you are unhappy with or about the news that I post you may post your own :)
chattels: i try to post relevant news, but obviously it does not suit everyone
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... how would a currency like isis even be considered legit?
chattels: If one wants to hear all good news " spun " and twisted to conform to the prediction of an " RV " soon then they do not want to listen to me - I get that
BOBBY: Chattels. ... plenty of other sites to supply rv related hot air
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› gold and silver have universal value
chattels: script requires " backing " or confidence in the full faith and credit of the issuer of the currency
BOBBY: I question the validity of this story/ source, was not sure to post or not
chattels: in part your question highlights a point that i try to make periodically which is that Iraq cannot unilaterally " value " their currency internationally - value to others in the world means that they can depend upon the stability, ligitimacy and " credit " of Iraq
chattels: the USA is not going to give Iraq $ 10 per dinar because Iraq says so
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... thats what i am trying to get at, it just getting lost in translation,..... thanks
chattels: my explanation may be naive, but it is my explanation / understanding for what it is worth
BOBBY: This article is stating Isis is pulling in millions a day, illegal oil sales etc.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› likely true
chattels: much of the buying market is indifferent to the origin of oil or how it was acquired
Stash: How are they sending this oil to the buyers
chattels: there are indescriminate buyers
chattels: ‹@Stash› truck / tanker
chattels: many accuse Turkey of buying their stolen oil
Stash: We need to stop it along with stopping their supply routes. We have the means to stop all this
chattels: the Syrian - Turkish border is very near by
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... source of article is quartz????????? ever hear of it?
chattels: ‹@Stash› Turkey has not been real cooperative according to some
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› no sir
Stash: True
BOBBY: any money on Iran buying any of it?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Iran is a producer and most of the oil is stolen from Syria and a few wells in western Iraq - no route to Iran across Iraq that I know of
BOBBY: Chattels. ........ do you think any of that is going beyond that region?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› say more please ?
disciple7: Iran news going bonkers
BOBBY: Chattels....... do you think any of that oil is making its way stateside?
BOBBY: Disciple7....... whats the Iran news?
Tootsie: GOOD EVENING = Just finished reading hx - Still asking re: RV ~ my 2Cents - what we are waiting and needing is that the IQD to become a 'legal tender' , irrespective of the rate, no??
they can change the rate in country all they want to, rv/ri, whatever , does not a thing for those out of country. So, in my humble thinking ~~ Let us get a mindset that we will/are waiting for an international - legal currency. Just my 2 1/2 cents ~ :wub:
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› unknown to me
Tootsie: Rate increase from 2 cents to 2 1/2 hah
Tootsie: Don't they sell the oil to traders? who , then sell to others? ??
BOBBY: Tootsie..... wise words
disciple7: ‹@BOBBY› just the news in the forum
BOBBY: Disciple7...... thanks
BOBBY: Washington (AFP) - Former CIA chief and retired general David Petraeus wants the United States to consider working with some members of an Al-Qaeda-affiliated organization to tackle the Islamic State group in Syria, he said Tuesday.
In a statement to CNN, Petraeus said some members of the Al-Qaeda affiliated Al-Nusra Front might be persuaded to join the coalition battling the IS group. "We should under no circumstances try to use or co-opt Nusra, an Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, as an organization against ISIL," Petraeus told CNN, using another acronym for the IS group.
"But some individual fighters, and perhaps some elements, within Nusra today have undoubtedly joined for opportunistic rather than ideological reasons: they saw Nusra as a strong horse, and they haven't seen a credible alternative, as the moderate opposition has yet to be adequately resourced."
So, Petraeus argued, it may eventually be possible to "peel off so-called 'reconcilables' who would be willing to renounce Nusra and align with the moderate opposition to fight against Nusra, ISIL, and (Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.)"
Petraeus became a household name in the United States when he oversaw the troop "surge" in Iraq in 2007, and US leaders credited him for salvaging the troubled war effort.
Part of that operation saw the decorated general convince Sunni fighters to stop fighting with Al-Qaeda and to work with the US military. His statement Tuesday followed the publication of a story in the Daily Beast that pointed out the irony of the United States working with anyone connected to Al-Qaeda, which carried out the September 11, 2001 attacks and triggered America's so-called war on terror.
The Daily Beast said several officials it had spoken to found Petraeus's idea to be politically toxic, almost impossible to carry out and strategically risky.
In his statement to CNN, Petraeus said using any Nusra fighters would require "both the rise of much stronger, moderate opposition groups -- backed, again, by the US and the coalition seeking to defeat ISIL --
and at the same time, intensified military pressure on all extremist groups." Petraeus, 62, had a spectacular fall from grace this year when he pleaded guilty to providing classified secrets to his mistress. He was given two years' probation and a $100,000 fine.
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› What do you consider " RV " related news ?
nobody: I really do not like Maliki
nobody: Can we get up a collection to take care of him once and for all?
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... got a question for you when your not rolling
nobody: A good hit man may be 20k lol
nobody: Hey did you see al-Baghdadi has AIDS?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Is it " RV " related ? - inquiring / demanding minds want to know :)
chattels: ‹@nobody› no, I did not
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... do you give any credience to this to this isis currency?
nobody: http://ift.tt/1VvfuYD...
http://ift.tt/1NMiLRT
chattels: Credence as in does it exist ?
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... as in can they do it?
chattels: ‹@nobody› ty
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I believe that they have done it according to a report(s) some time back
BOBBY: nobody..... aids is rampant over there, we had to take tests before we went over there
chattels: Wasn't it a coin ?
chattels: or was it script ?
BOBBY: just saw an article..... not sure how valid
chattels: What circulation, use or confidence it has in the marketplace I do not know.
nobody: think they made a coin
BOBBY: i believe its in coins
nobody: made if gold
chattels: In some societies sea shells were currency - it's " value " depends upon the confidence of the users I think
chattels: gold has intrinsic and universal value as we know
chattels: according to it's weight primarily
Fit2beFit: RV related news is NOT hearing every other hour about bombings and war in iraq news
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› those things relate to security and stability which may affect the " rv " or so it occurs to me
Fit2beFit: whatever
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› But if you are unhappy with or about the news that I post you may post your own :)
chattels: i try to post relevant news, but obviously it does not suit everyone
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... how would a currency like isis even be considered legit?
chattels: If one wants to hear all good news " spun " and twisted to conform to the prediction of an " RV " soon then they do not want to listen to me - I get that
BOBBY: Chattels. ... plenty of other sites to supply rv related hot air
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› gold and silver have universal value
chattels: script requires " backing " or confidence in the full faith and credit of the issuer of the currency
BOBBY: I question the validity of this story/ source, was not sure to post or not
chattels: in part your question highlights a point that i try to make periodically which is that Iraq cannot unilaterally " value " their currency internationally - value to others in the world means that they can depend upon the stability, ligitimacy and " credit " of Iraq
chattels: the USA is not going to give Iraq $ 10 per dinar because Iraq says so
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... thats what i am trying to get at, it just getting lost in translation,..... thanks
chattels: my explanation may be naive, but it is my explanation / understanding for what it is worth
BOBBY: This article is stating Isis is pulling in millions a day, illegal oil sales etc.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› likely true
chattels: much of the buying market is indifferent to the origin of oil or how it was acquired
Stash: How are they sending this oil to the buyers
chattels: there are indescriminate buyers
chattels: ‹@Stash› truck / tanker
chattels: many accuse Turkey of buying their stolen oil
Stash: We need to stop it along with stopping their supply routes. We have the means to stop all this
chattels: the Syrian - Turkish border is very near by
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... source of article is quartz????????? ever hear of it?
chattels: ‹@Stash› Turkey has not been real cooperative according to some
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› no sir
Stash: True
BOBBY: any money on Iran buying any of it?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Iran is a producer and most of the oil is stolen from Syria and a few wells in western Iraq - no route to Iran across Iraq that I know of
BOBBY: Chattels. ........ do you think any of that is going beyond that region?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› say more please ?
disciple7: Iran news going bonkers
BOBBY: Chattels....... do you think any of that oil is making its way stateside?
BOBBY: Disciple7....... whats the Iran news?
Tootsie: GOOD EVENING = Just finished reading hx - Still asking re: RV ~ my 2Cents - what we are waiting and needing is that the IQD to become a 'legal tender' , irrespective of the rate, no??
they can change the rate in country all they want to, rv/ri, whatever , does not a thing for those out of country. So, in my humble thinking ~~ Let us get a mindset that we will/are waiting for an international - legal currency. Just my 2 1/2 cents ~ :wub:
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› unknown to me
Tootsie: Rate increase from 2 cents to 2 1/2 hah
Tootsie: Don't they sell the oil to traders? who , then sell to others? ??
BOBBY: Tootsie..... wise words
disciple7: ‹@BOBBY› just the news in the forum
BOBBY: Disciple7...... thanks
BOBBY: Washington (AFP) - Former CIA chief and retired general David Petraeus wants the United States to consider working with some members of an Al-Qaeda-affiliated organization to tackle the Islamic State group in Syria, he said Tuesday.
In a statement to CNN, Petraeus said some members of the Al-Qaeda affiliated Al-Nusra Front might be persuaded to join the coalition battling the IS group. "We should under no circumstances try to use or co-opt Nusra, an Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, as an organization against ISIL," Petraeus told CNN, using another acronym for the IS group.
"But some individual fighters, and perhaps some elements, within Nusra today have undoubtedly joined for opportunistic rather than ideological reasons: they saw Nusra as a strong horse, and they haven't seen a credible alternative, as the moderate opposition has yet to be adequately resourced."
So, Petraeus argued, it may eventually be possible to "peel off so-called 'reconcilables' who would be willing to renounce Nusra and align with the moderate opposition to fight against Nusra, ISIL, and (Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.)"
Petraeus became a household name in the United States when he oversaw the troop "surge" in Iraq in 2007, and US leaders credited him for salvaging the troubled war effort.
Part of that operation saw the decorated general convince Sunni fighters to stop fighting with Al-Qaeda and to work with the US military. His statement Tuesday followed the publication of a story in the Daily Beast that pointed out the irony of the United States working with anyone connected to Al-Qaeda, which carried out the September 11, 2001 attacks and triggered America's so-called war on terror.
The Daily Beast said several officials it had spoken to found Petraeus's idea to be politically toxic, almost impossible to carry out and strategically risky.
In his statement to CNN, Petraeus said using any Nusra fighters would require "both the rise of much stronger, moderate opposition groups -- backed, again, by the US and the coalition seeking to defeat ISIL --
and at the same time, intensified military pressure on all extremist groups." Petraeus, 62, had a spectacular fall from grace this year when he pleaded guilty to providing classified secrets to his mistress. He was given two years' probation and a $100,000 fine.
Lauren305: nah, that doesnt sound crazy AT ALL.
BOBBY: i really hate to think were at this point
Dianne777: R WE THERE YET?
chattels: [Baghdad - where] A member of the parliamentary Economic Committee Ahmad Kanani, on Tuesday, the central bank for the issuance of new currencies in both categories [50] thousand and [100] thousand Iraqi dinars end of this year.
Said Kanani told all of Iraq [where] that "the Iraqi Central Bank, in connection with the issuance of currency in both categories [50] thousand dinars and [100] dinars, printed".
Noting that "put this category to the market will be the end of this year." Kanani said that "the class [100] thousand dinars printed, will be under the experience of the [50] thousand dinars," pointing out that "the new monetary category will have its work later this year." .
It is said that the CBI is now dealing with a class [25] thousand Iraqi dinars at a time when the country is experiencing a financial crisis due to low oil prices, and warns some specialists that the issue of Iraqi currency more than the limit will lead to the low level of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar and other currencies . chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1NMiLRV
chattels: e] revealed the parliamentary finance committee member Majda al-Tamimi said Tuesday that Alsapfh governments wasted nearly $ 350 billion, adding that "the general budget deficit of 53 trillion dinars." Said al-Tamimi said in a statement received by the agency all of Iraq [where] that "money wasted during the previous years since 2003, the rate and to 2014 of not less than $ 350 billion, indicating that it" went inclusion of wind in fake projects.
"She said that" if it has to take advantage of the surplus accumulated in previous budgets and employ the money in the right place when we arrived to the current crisis and the policy of austerity and retrenchment in which we live today, "pointing out that" the government will be forced to internal and external borrowing to cover the deficit generating future risks to Iraq.
chattels: "She Tamimi that" the deficit scheduled in the general budget is 23 trillion dinars, but according to the accounts of current data and low oil prices in the global market deficit reached 53 trillion dinars, adding that "more than half of the current year's budget is the real deficit is not planned." chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1VvftUw
chattels: The Iraqi budget deficit is more than DOUBLE than that which was " projected "
BOBBY: i really hate to think were at this point
Dianne777: R WE THERE YET?
chattels: [Baghdad - where] A member of the parliamentary Economic Committee Ahmad Kanani, on Tuesday, the central bank for the issuance of new currencies in both categories [50] thousand and [100] thousand Iraqi dinars end of this year.
Said Kanani told all of Iraq [where] that "the Iraqi Central Bank, in connection with the issuance of currency in both categories [50] thousand dinars and [100] dinars, printed".
Noting that "put this category to the market will be the end of this year." Kanani said that "the class [100] thousand dinars printed, will be under the experience of the [50] thousand dinars," pointing out that "the new monetary category will have its work later this year." .
It is said that the CBI is now dealing with a class [25] thousand Iraqi dinars at a time when the country is experiencing a financial crisis due to low oil prices, and warns some specialists that the issue of Iraqi currency more than the limit will lead to the low level of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar and other currencies . chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1NMiLRV
chattels: e] revealed the parliamentary finance committee member Majda al-Tamimi said Tuesday that Alsapfh governments wasted nearly $ 350 billion, adding that "the general budget deficit of 53 trillion dinars." Said al-Tamimi said in a statement received by the agency all of Iraq [where] that "money wasted during the previous years since 2003, the rate and to 2014 of not less than $ 350 billion, indicating that it" went inclusion of wind in fake projects.
"She said that" if it has to take advantage of the surplus accumulated in previous budgets and employ the money in the right place when we arrived to the current crisis and the policy of austerity and retrenchment in which we live today, "pointing out that" the government will be forced to internal and external borrowing to cover the deficit generating future risks to Iraq.
chattels: "She Tamimi that" the deficit scheduled in the general budget is 23 trillion dinars, but according to the accounts of current data and low oil prices in the global market deficit reached 53 trillion dinars, adding that "more than half of the current year's budget is the real deficit is not planned." chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1VvftUw
chattels: The Iraqi budget deficit is more than DOUBLE than that which was " projected "
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