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BillyBobG: I am new to your site, however I must say, I think "Oneness" said a lot, so I am going to have to take a few hours to review in my mind, then sleep on it before I comment. However I seem to like what he says, just got to get it straight in my mind.
chattels: Abadi’s reforms have thus far included, among other measures, decreasing the number of guards for high-ranking officials and restructuring these security details, forming a committee to reduce differences in salaries among government officials, and forming a committee to evaluate how ministries are performing.
From the perspectives of the political parties, public opinion and the religious authority, Abadi's reforms do not extend beyond the level of minor modifications and have not brought any real change to the political or governing system. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
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Wealthwatch Chat 9-5-15 Part 1 of 2
BillyBobG: I am new to your site, however I must say, I think "Oneness" said a lot, so I am going to have to take a few hours to review in my mind, then sleep on it before I comment. However I seem to like what he says, just got to get it straight in my mind.
chattels: Abadi’s reforms have thus far included, among other measures, decreasing the number of guards for high-ranking officials and restructuring these security details, forming a committee to reduce differences in salaries among government officials, and forming a committee to evaluate how ministries are performing.
From the perspectives of the political parties, public opinion and the religious authority, Abadi's reforms do not extend beyond the level of minor modifications and have not brought any real change to the political or governing system. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
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chattels: em·bel·lish əmˈbeliSH/ verb : make (a statement or story) more interesting or entertaining by adding extra details, especially ones that are not true.
Doug_W: GM Gang
chattels: several days ago - if you missed it :
chattels: Parliamentary Economic confirms that the investment law will pass next week 151496.jpg Follow-up - and babysit - confirmed a member of the economic and investment commission parliamentary Najiba Najib, Monday, that the investment law will pass through the parliament sessions next week.
She said Najib "The investment law does not have any political dispute it and there is a will by the House of Representatives to pass this law next week," indicating that "some members of the economy want to have investment, however, the federal government and is not, however, investment authorities in the provinces and that otherwise the constitution."
It showed that "in the event of insistence pass the investment law and that the investment is, however, the federal government, we will stand against this law, everyone is calling for there to be broad powers, however, the provincial administration,"
adding that "the law will represent a real breakthrough in the way of fact, investment in the development of Iraq." Still the Investment Law No. 13 of 2006 when the economic and investment commission is discussed, study after it was read a first reading and is expected to be voted on during the next parliamentary session.
chattels: Courtesy of DinarVets
Doug_W: ‹@chattels› who posted it over there?
chattels: newbieDA
chattels: 8/26/15 Twilight News / confirmed member of the economic and investment commission in Parliament MP Abdul Salam al-Maliki, Wednesday, Parliament's intention to pass the investment Pencchth amended law in the parliament session next Monday to achieve the full support of the Iraqi economy.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS... LINK
Doug_W: ty
chattels: Seems to be some " conflict " in translations between " will " and " may ".
chattels: Either way it is Iraq and we wait to see what actually happens if anything, eh ?
chattels: Even if it passes there is the implementation issue with all things in Iraq.
chattels: My belief is that if there was only a first reading then there must be a second and then a four day scheduling wait, so next week may be an " ambitious" timeline under the best of circumstances..
newbieDA: we had some kind of different news yesterday, economic
newbieDA: The opening of the production of cars, "Firat Tico" card line 15 cars a day http://ift.tt/1KaGo5e...LINK
newbieDA: Muthanna complete steel plant investment worth more than two million dollars http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS... LINK
newbieDA: different than we are usta seeing
newbieDA: on that Investment Law being passed next week, take all the in stride, watch for the agenda, along with the results, be patient
whitelions: ‹@chattels› this is the 3rd and done on the investment laws I posted it 2 weeks ago was hopeing it would have been done by now lol but we wait
newbieDA: ‹@chattels› the Investment is ready for vote
chattels: somebody call me when it is implemented :)
newbieDA: lol so true
newbieDA: be patient I always say, I know you are too
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› ty for posting that
chattels: light news thus far today - i am going to live my other life most of the day - laterz all
newbieDA: ‹@chattels› take a break buddy
newbieDA: yep is light this morning
whitelions: I have not even looked yet lol
newbieDA: very impressed by the news
newbieDA: different type of stories then we are used too, very impressed they got some industry off the ground
whitelions: is it the steel mill story if so this is the 2nd mill to open in the last month and thats very very good
newbieDA: ya, very impressive news, new type almost, economic growth
newbieDA: no agenda posted yet for the 8th, no surprise though
whitelions: yes and that I hope means that despite the war and the corruption and the laws that they really need for protection they are recovering enough to open big business's
newbieDA: I also added to my notes the CBI is selling gold, the new S&P bond rating
newbieDA: things are looking good, for Iraq, I am impressed, Parliament is snail pace still
newbieDA: I wanted to make a note about the CBI loans - Launched August 26th article "Post Forum Iraqi small and medium enterprises in Oman"
whitelions: yes it is and one has to balance the other so they better catch up lol
newbieDA: I think something went wrong, need to locate the story though and actually read it
newbieDA: I agree, they balance is a great way to put it
newbieDA: I noticed that too
newbieDA: CoM is pushing everyone now for further, faster balance I noticed
Doug_W: all I wanna know is: did it RV yet ?
newbieDA: I always just wanted them to have electricity and we seen they are able too now in the news
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I'm sorry I think you miss understood me when I told chattles that I posted the investment laws I post in The IQD Team and I also posted the article on the loans if your looking for it
newbieDA: k I thought you posted it here
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I agree electricity is a biggie
newbieDA: electricity and new industrial this week, very good, but still long way to go
newbieDA: for reforms, they need the Federal Court Law asap, and to avoid being blacklisted the AML law, and Investment would be nice also
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I know you did that why I wanted clarafie that Chattles and I have know each other since before he was in that other room
newbieDA: no problem
newbieDA: ya I cant wait to see what happens, but it so slow, cant believe they took a week off of parliament
newbieDA: National Guard Law and Investment Law details are being worked on, hope they dont screw it up
newbieDA: in the S&P rating article, it said On the other hand, we could raise the ratings if Iraq's security situation improves significantly and, with it, Iraq's public finances. '
whitelions: they had to they could not fight this NG law in public they have to pass it and to do that they have to fight SOL and they fight dirty so now they are down to 1 paragraph ((pray thats true ) and thats better than the 6 they were fight over
newbieDA: thought that was interesting
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› ya last I read was the one thing also
newbieDA: this is what I have wrote down they accomplished recently
newbieDA: Law of Treaties - Passed Law of Parties = Passed National Card Law - Passed National Card Act - Launched 7/25/2015 Domestic Bonds - Launched August 2nd, extended month of September CBI loans - Launched August 26th article "Post Forum Iraqi small and medium enterprises in Oman" CBI selling gold to public
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Shia led Hashed fighters kill Daesh suicide bomber in his humvee, defuse the bombs & reuse the humvee near #Baiji
newbieDA: you add the NG law, that would be Great!, the Investment law, would be totally awesome
whitelions: well time to go to work see you soon dream big
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Iraqi #JamesBond.. Infiltrates Daesh position, kills 4, drives back a VBIED to Hashed position & dismantles it #Baiji
newbieDA: and the AML law, I would be so impressed
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Shia led Hashed volunteers take over Daesh 'safehouse' in #Baiji and dismantle large quantity of IEDs & explosives
newbieDA: got Daesh situation under control to a point it seems, well better
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1JwHFme... see status of all laws here. http://ift.tt/1dGvVtA
Tootsie: GM, , phone rang pretty early, from a friend Dinarian ~ I said 'hello' you calling so early , do we have a rate change?" hahaha, they said oops, forgot about the time difference, - UGH
Tootsie: haha, yes, oh well , early coffee today haha
Tootsie: Well, so much for fun at Galveston this w/end. Don't go in the water, some areas, High levels of Bacteria found ?west side of beach, they had red dots, looks pretty widespread. We went 1 time, years and years ago. Good thing I had packed meat tenderizer & alcohol =- kiddo tangled with a jellyfish - first & last time for us.
Tootsie: Parliament has not blocked out a session as of now ~
Tootsie: again, warning, all the beaches on west end, bacteria - leak from Airport Waste Water facility, poor Galveston -
Doug_W: ugg they are nasty
Doug_W: waht do U use Adolfs?
Doug_W: another weekend in ThE DiNaR ZoNe....
Tootsie: ‹@Doug_W› The adolphs dissolves, softens, the stingers and alchohol sterilizes
Tootsie: pretty painful
Doug_W: it breaks down teh protein in teh venom
Doug_W: into Amino acids
Tootsie: she had whelps on legs, inner thigh for couple days
Tootsie: yes
Doug_W: yikes that had to hurt
Tootsie: yes, and she was only around 4 if I remember, maybe 5
Tootsie: Kirkuk's Arabs were preparing to hold a Conference to announce their strategy and accused Abbadi of "forgetting" preservation2015-09-05 14:31 Range/Kirkuk Representatives from Arab component declared in Kirkuk province, Saturday set up a Committee to prepare for an Arab Conference in Kirkuk
to develop a strategy to counter the coming stage, and accused Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi "forgotten existence in Iraq named Kirkuk", as called for local and central Governments assume their responsibilities towards the children of the province, stressed the Arab component displays a "systematic exclusion."
He said the Arabs of Kirkuk in an interview lilsalvador1985 (range), a meeting took place today in Kirkuk to collect the children of Arab component of their representatives in the lower House and the provincial Council and local government as well as political representatives and clan and academics ",
stating that" the meeting discussed many issues concerning the Arab situation in Kirkuk saw an agreement to delegate representatives of Arab component in the House and the provincial Council to demand rights component. " CONT ~~ wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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Doug_W: well slap my face will you
Doug_W: did U know today in 1774 the first Continental Congress sat
Doug_W: took 2 years to draft constitution
Doug_W: today I mean
Tootsie: Interesting! I t hink I may start checking this day in history again, used to post stuff~
Tootsie: 2 years, yes, nothing happens overnight, and just think how simple items were then, as opposed to now.
chattels: em·bel·lish əmˈbeliSH/ verb : make (a statement or story) more interesting or entertaining by adding extra details, especially ones that are not true.
Doug_W: GM Gang
chattels: several days ago - if you missed it :
chattels: Parliamentary Economic confirms that the investment law will pass next week 151496.jpg Follow-up - and babysit - confirmed a member of the economic and investment commission parliamentary Najiba Najib, Monday, that the investment law will pass through the parliament sessions next week.
She said Najib "The investment law does not have any political dispute it and there is a will by the House of Representatives to pass this law next week," indicating that "some members of the economy want to have investment, however, the federal government and is not, however, investment authorities in the provinces and that otherwise the constitution."
It showed that "in the event of insistence pass the investment law and that the investment is, however, the federal government, we will stand against this law, everyone is calling for there to be broad powers, however, the provincial administration,"
adding that "the law will represent a real breakthrough in the way of fact, investment in the development of Iraq." Still the Investment Law No. 13 of 2006 when the economic and investment commission is discussed, study after it was read a first reading and is expected to be voted on during the next parliamentary session.
chattels: Courtesy of DinarVets
Doug_W: ‹@chattels› who posted it over there?
chattels: newbieDA
chattels: 8/26/15 Twilight News / confirmed member of the economic and investment commission in Parliament MP Abdul Salam al-Maliki, Wednesday, Parliament's intention to pass the investment Pencchth amended law in the parliament session next Monday to achieve the full support of the Iraqi economy.
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS... LINK
Doug_W: ty
chattels: Seems to be some " conflict " in translations between " will " and " may ".
chattels: Either way it is Iraq and we wait to see what actually happens if anything, eh ?
chattels: Even if it passes there is the implementation issue with all things in Iraq.
chattels: My belief is that if there was only a first reading then there must be a second and then a four day scheduling wait, so next week may be an " ambitious" timeline under the best of circumstances..
newbieDA: we had some kind of different news yesterday, economic
newbieDA: The opening of the production of cars, "Firat Tico" card line 15 cars a day http://ift.tt/1KaGo5e...LINK
newbieDA: Muthanna complete steel plant investment worth more than two million dollars http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS... LINK
newbieDA: different than we are usta seeing
newbieDA: on that Investment Law being passed next week, take all the in stride, watch for the agenda, along with the results, be patient
whitelions: ‹@chattels› this is the 3rd and done on the investment laws I posted it 2 weeks ago was hopeing it would have been done by now lol but we wait
newbieDA: ‹@chattels› the Investment is ready for vote
chattels: somebody call me when it is implemented :)
newbieDA: lol so true
newbieDA: be patient I always say, I know you are too
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› ty for posting that
chattels: light news thus far today - i am going to live my other life most of the day - laterz all
newbieDA: ‹@chattels› take a break buddy
newbieDA: yep is light this morning
whitelions: I have not even looked yet lol
newbieDA: very impressed by the news
newbieDA: different type of stories then we are used too, very impressed they got some industry off the ground
whitelions: is it the steel mill story if so this is the 2nd mill to open in the last month and thats very very good
newbieDA: ya, very impressive news, new type almost, economic growth
newbieDA: no agenda posted yet for the 8th, no surprise though
whitelions: yes and that I hope means that despite the war and the corruption and the laws that they really need for protection they are recovering enough to open big business's
newbieDA: I also added to my notes the CBI is selling gold, the new S&P bond rating
newbieDA: things are looking good, for Iraq, I am impressed, Parliament is snail pace still
newbieDA: I wanted to make a note about the CBI loans - Launched August 26th article "Post Forum Iraqi small and medium enterprises in Oman"
whitelions: yes it is and one has to balance the other so they better catch up lol
newbieDA: I think something went wrong, need to locate the story though and actually read it
newbieDA: I agree, they balance is a great way to put it
newbieDA: I noticed that too
newbieDA: CoM is pushing everyone now for further, faster balance I noticed
Doug_W: all I wanna know is: did it RV yet ?
newbieDA: I always just wanted them to have electricity and we seen they are able too now in the news
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I'm sorry I think you miss understood me when I told chattles that I posted the investment laws I post in The IQD Team and I also posted the article on the loans if your looking for it
newbieDA: k I thought you posted it here
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I agree electricity is a biggie
newbieDA: electricity and new industrial this week, very good, but still long way to go
newbieDA: for reforms, they need the Federal Court Law asap, and to avoid being blacklisted the AML law, and Investment would be nice also
whitelions: ‹@newbieDA› I know you did that why I wanted clarafie that Chattles and I have know each other since before he was in that other room
newbieDA: no problem
newbieDA: ya I cant wait to see what happens, but it so slow, cant believe they took a week off of parliament
newbieDA: National Guard Law and Investment Law details are being worked on, hope they dont screw it up
newbieDA: in the S&P rating article, it said On the other hand, we could raise the ratings if Iraq's security situation improves significantly and, with it, Iraq's public finances. '
whitelions: they had to they could not fight this NG law in public they have to pass it and to do that they have to fight SOL and they fight dirty so now they are down to 1 paragraph ((pray thats true ) and thats better than the 6 they were fight over
newbieDA: thought that was interesting
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› ya last I read was the one thing also
newbieDA: this is what I have wrote down they accomplished recently
newbieDA: Law of Treaties - Passed Law of Parties = Passed National Card Law - Passed National Card Act - Launched 7/25/2015 Domestic Bonds - Launched August 2nd, extended month of September CBI loans - Launched August 26th article "Post Forum Iraqi small and medium enterprises in Oman" CBI selling gold to public
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Shia led Hashed fighters kill Daesh suicide bomber in his humvee, defuse the bombs & reuse the humvee near #Baiji
newbieDA: you add the NG law, that would be Great!, the Investment law, would be totally awesome
whitelions: well time to go to work see you soon dream big
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Iraqi #JamesBond.. Infiltrates Daesh position, kills 4, drives back a VBIED to Hashed position & dismantles it #Baiji
newbieDA: and the AML law, I would be so impressed
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate Sep 3 Shia led Hashed volunteers take over Daesh 'safehouse' in #Baiji and dismantle large quantity of IEDs & explosives
newbieDA: got Daesh situation under control to a point it seems, well better
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1JwHFme... see status of all laws here. http://ift.tt/1dGvVtA
Tootsie: GM, , phone rang pretty early, from a friend Dinarian ~ I said 'hello' you calling so early , do we have a rate change?" hahaha, they said oops, forgot about the time difference, - UGH
Tootsie: haha, yes, oh well , early coffee today haha
Tootsie: Well, so much for fun at Galveston this w/end. Don't go in the water, some areas, High levels of Bacteria found ?west side of beach, they had red dots, looks pretty widespread. We went 1 time, years and years ago. Good thing I had packed meat tenderizer & alcohol =- kiddo tangled with a jellyfish - first & last time for us.
Tootsie: Parliament has not blocked out a session as of now ~
Tootsie: again, warning, all the beaches on west end, bacteria - leak from Airport Waste Water facility, poor Galveston -
Doug_W: ugg they are nasty
Doug_W: waht do U use Adolfs?
Doug_W: another weekend in ThE DiNaR ZoNe....
Tootsie: ‹@Doug_W› The adolphs dissolves, softens, the stingers and alchohol sterilizes
Tootsie: pretty painful
Doug_W: it breaks down teh protein in teh venom
Doug_W: into Amino acids
Tootsie: she had whelps on legs, inner thigh for couple days
Tootsie: yes
Doug_W: yikes that had to hurt
Tootsie: yes, and she was only around 4 if I remember, maybe 5
Tootsie: Kirkuk's Arabs were preparing to hold a Conference to announce their strategy and accused Abbadi of "forgetting" preservation2015-09-05 14:31 Range/Kirkuk Representatives from Arab component declared in Kirkuk province, Saturday set up a Committee to prepare for an Arab Conference in Kirkuk
to develop a strategy to counter the coming stage, and accused Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi "forgotten existence in Iraq named Kirkuk", as called for local and central Governments assume their responsibilities towards the children of the province, stressed the Arab component displays a "systematic exclusion."
He said the Arabs of Kirkuk in an interview lilsalvador1985 (range), a meeting took place today in Kirkuk to collect the children of Arab component of their representatives in the lower House and the provincial Council and local government as well as political representatives and clan and academics ",
stating that" the meeting discussed many issues concerning the Arab situation in Kirkuk saw an agreement to delegate representatives of Arab component in the House and the provincial Council to demand rights component. " CONT ~~ wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1XvYKT7
Doug_W: well slap my face will you
Doug_W: did U know today in 1774 the first Continental Congress sat
Doug_W: took 2 years to draft constitution
Doug_W: today I mean
Tootsie: Interesting! I t hink I may start checking this day in history again, used to post stuff~
Tootsie: 2 years, yes, nothing happens overnight, and just think how simple items were then, as opposed to now.
Tootsie: Blocks be declared the Constitution "generally Abadi reforms .. and put other controversial laws 04/09/2015 22:17 Long-Presse / Baghdad After a month of the launch of the government's reforms package deputies from the bloc of Prime Minister revealed that the measures "was hasty," and they came because of the pressure of the street and it needs to "rationing" so as not to conflict with the Constitution and the laws in force.
And those actors also criticized the parliamentary paper which coincided with the reforms Abadi, arguing that the House of Representatives need to "reform from within" before you start wading in the controversial laws.
Despite the importance of the laws that Parliament intends to discuss the National Kahars and the law of amnesty, it is, according to Kurdish deputies, must take measures to break the stereotype formed by the public against him started.
This does not hide some political forces fear that the protests and reform measures Abadi to pay "play The role of the three authorities, "at the same time.
Warns of exclusivity and prejudice as the" constitution ", stressing that the infringement it will lead the country in a big mess. After weeks of public support and support for reforms that packs issued by the Prime Minister, the political blocs began to raise their voices to intercept shy about "constitutionality" of these measures.
The House of Representatives recently listed National Guard law on the agenda, but the continuing political controversy over its provisions led to the lifting until further notice. And Baltazmn with Union forces that demanded the inclusion of a general amnesty law on the parliamentary agenda, as one of the terms "political paper" that emerged from the government-Abadi.
And it showed the three presidencies, during a meeting last week, support for the reforms a condition to be "in accordance with the constitution."
She stressed the need to complete the presidencies of the National Guard and the Federal Court and national reconciliation laws,
Tootsie: and stressed the need to go all the reforms are carried out in accordance with the Constitution and the law. Observers expressed fear of some political blocs attempt to circumvent the government reforms under the pretext of abiding by the Constitution, and compatibility with the consensus.
Paper hasty reform MP says Rubaie, a member of a coalition of state law, that "reforms Abadi prepared in haste and must codified accordance with the constitutional dimensions." He said al-Rubaie (range), that "the Constitution is the only standard agreed upon by all the political blocs and the loss of this standard will pay into chaos."
And confirms a member of a coalition of state law that "some of the reforms launched by the government will need to change the laws and other window may conflict with the constitution." CONTINUES ~ wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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And those actors also criticized the parliamentary paper which coincided with the reforms Abadi, arguing that the House of Representatives need to "reform from within" before you start wading in the controversial laws.
Despite the importance of the laws that Parliament intends to discuss the National Kahars and the law of amnesty, it is, according to Kurdish deputies, must take measures to break the stereotype formed by the public against him started.
This does not hide some political forces fear that the protests and reform measures Abadi to pay "play The role of the three authorities, "at the same time.
Warns of exclusivity and prejudice as the" constitution ", stressing that the infringement it will lead the country in a big mess. After weeks of public support and support for reforms that packs issued by the Prime Minister, the political blocs began to raise their voices to intercept shy about "constitutionality" of these measures.
The House of Representatives recently listed National Guard law on the agenda, but the continuing political controversy over its provisions led to the lifting until further notice. And Baltazmn with Union forces that demanded the inclusion of a general amnesty law on the parliamentary agenda, as one of the terms "political paper" that emerged from the government-Abadi.
And it showed the three presidencies, during a meeting last week, support for the reforms a condition to be "in accordance with the constitution."
She stressed the need to complete the presidencies of the National Guard and the Federal Court and national reconciliation laws,
Tootsie: and stressed the need to go all the reforms are carried out in accordance with the Constitution and the law. Observers expressed fear of some political blocs attempt to circumvent the government reforms under the pretext of abiding by the Constitution, and compatibility with the consensus.
Paper hasty reform MP says Rubaie, a member of a coalition of state law, that "reforms Abadi prepared in haste and must codified accordance with the constitutional dimensions." He said al-Rubaie (range), that "the Constitution is the only standard agreed upon by all the political blocs and the loss of this standard will pay into chaos."
And confirms a member of a coalition of state law that "some of the reforms launched by the government will need to change the laws and other window may conflict with the constitution." CONTINUES ~ wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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