BGG News Time 9/5/15 Part 1 of 2
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BGG: rumors of Abadi hinting at some form of "marital law" if reforms don't work... is very curious.
BGG: I don't see it as all bad (for sure) - especially with the corruption in Iraq being sooooooo entrenched.
BGG: however, who knows??
jtank: so much for demonstrations
rcookie: But both ways to accomplish require Masoud to be on board and he has stated he is not
BGG says to rcookie: good point - I'm curious how much of an "Iran alliance" he has...
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BGG: Welcome to DinarUpdates.com for News Time...
BGG: rumors of Abadi hinting at some form of "marital law" if reforms don't work... is very curious.
BGG: I don't see it as all bad (for sure) - especially with the corruption in Iraq being sooooooo entrenched.
BGG: however, who knows??
jtank: so much for demonstrations
rcookie: But both ways to accomplish require Masoud to be on board and he has stated he is not
BGG says to rcookie: good point - I'm curious how much of an "Iran alliance" he has...
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BGG says to rcookie: keep in mind Talabani had Maliki on the ropes and pulled back at the last second.
Rcookie: and will require 60 days ....You're right BGG!
BGG says to rcookie: a HUGE missed opportunity... in retrospect, probably at some urging from Iran.
BGG says to rcookie: they offered some "behind the scenes hinkiness"
Rcookie: I think they have come too far to reset to that degree
BGG says to jtank: Good point too - however, keep in mind - "boots on the ground" are telling us demonstrations are FAR MORE widespread than is being reported.
BGG says to jtank: big time demonstrations in Baghdad. Which may well be the catalyst and pressure for real reforms to actually happen.
rcookie: And the WB deadlines clock still ticking!
BGG says to rcookie: still ticking... OCT 1st - right??
rcookie: yes sir!
BGG says to rcookie: do you have that Sadr article urging more protests??
rcookie : one sec
BGG says to rcookie: with calling Abadi's reforms "empty" (or something along those lines)??
rcookie : Muqtada al-Sadr. Describes the fixes Abadi "phantom"! Date: Saturday, 05-09-15 11:31 am Sadrist leader described government reforms as "fake", and called for continued protest for "real reforms" Sadrist leader noted Mr. Muqtada al-Sadr, that continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."Sadr said in a statement, government reforms, describing the "timid".
He stressed the need for "reform of the judiciary and Cabinet collapsing and the Election Commission, ministerial bodies, and bodies that are dormant and inactive". http://ift.tt/1M3Cpsv Bad / Broken Link – sorry
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: there is rumor of more sweeping reforms coming - big shake-up in the GOI.
Rcookie: And it seems the words of the week for Sistani are no more words....ACTION!!!!
BGG: IMHO I see this as a real peek into what's going on - Sadr and the opposition have no problem keeping the heat on.
BGG: there must be some waffling on the part of the GOI - the struggle I have talked about over and over - some parts of the GOI wanting to stay corrupt and stay "at the trough"...
rcookie : fat & sleepy BGG!
BGG: the truth is - they keep that up and there will be no money and no Iraq left. Looks like the house cleaning couldn't have come at a better time.
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BGG: IMHO...
BGG says to rcookie: give us some thoughts
Rcookie: Here is a piece
rcookie : Vice holds previous governments lose $ 600 billion Date: 05/09/2015 16:35 governments the responsibility of corrupt deals in the purchase of weapons contracts and waste of public funds. Said Shawki told / information /
"The previous governments, the executive, legislative and judicial their authorities bear all the legal consequences in the purchase of arms deals that hover around suspicions of corruption in addition to the loss of more than $ 600 billion without the presence of its own final accounts,"
"likely that there would be figures and banks and civil government is accused of corruption issues. " He added that "the current government is committed to the recommendations of the religious authority and Ptoukitat reforms announced by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to purge all state institutions of the rampant corruption in it."
The religious reference in her speech stressed on Friday the need for large capital accounting of corruption and forwarded to the judiciary. Finished
rcookie: Another report today BGG of $45Billion spent in last 10 years and they don’t have 1/3 of their total electricity needs
BGG says to rcookie: Sounds like Sistani points out Maliki, (executive) the MP's (legislative) and Medhat al-Mahmoud (judicial authorities) are the ones responsible for 600 BILLION in losses... he's probably gettin closer to the right number...
rcookie : However the scariest report today is where Iraq & Sudan ranks as Worlds top most corrupt placing 170 out of 175 countries...long report but mind blowing numbers and details!!
BGG: and the current government is COMMITTED to rooting out the corruption.
BGG says to rcookie: it is the truth.
BGG says to rcooki: S&P pointed out "institutional risk" - meaning the very institutions of Iraq are at risk (maybe they ARE the risk)...
Rcookie: Iraq and Sudan, the Arab world's most corrupt Date: 05/09/2015 20:35 http://ift.tt/1FkgFki te.google.com&sandbox=0&sl=ar&u=http://ift.tt/1Ld7C6T QhzRxcT_TlvVw
http://ift.tt/1M3CqfP
BGG says to rcookie: the good news, Abadi appears in high gear to fix it...
Rcookie: And that is Iraq's only hope to survive!!
BGG says to rcookie: Sadr and Sistani don't appear to be willing to let him forget it either
BGG : Sorry - I am getting carried away - let's take a break for ??s
satrib says to BGG: would Martial law make it easier for Abadi to handle Maliki et al?
BGG says to satrib: not impossible - could be a threat from Abadi if those in the "middle ground" can't manage to start acting right ASAP.
BGG says to satrib: in redneck lingo...
Pablo: Did you ever hear anything more of those rumors that M fled to Iran earlier this week?
BGG says to Pablo: I doubt he has yet - but as soon as he thinks he is in danger, he'll ROLL
BGG says to Pablo: bank on it.
BGG says to Pablo: he won't stay for "the trial"...
Rcookie: and will require 60 days ....You're right BGG!
BGG says to rcookie: a HUGE missed opportunity... in retrospect, probably at some urging from Iran.
BGG says to rcookie: they offered some "behind the scenes hinkiness"
Rcookie: I think they have come too far to reset to that degree
BGG says to jtank: Good point too - however, keep in mind - "boots on the ground" are telling us demonstrations are FAR MORE widespread than is being reported.
BGG says to jtank: big time demonstrations in Baghdad. Which may well be the catalyst and pressure for real reforms to actually happen.
rcookie: And the WB deadlines clock still ticking!
BGG says to rcookie: still ticking... OCT 1st - right??
rcookie: yes sir!
BGG says to rcookie: do you have that Sadr article urging more protests??
rcookie : one sec
BGG says to rcookie: with calling Abadi's reforms "empty" (or something along those lines)??
rcookie : Muqtada al-Sadr. Describes the fixes Abadi "phantom"! Date: Saturday, 05-09-15 11:31 am Sadrist leader described government reforms as "fake", and called for continued protest for "real reforms" Sadrist leader noted Mr. Muqtada al-Sadr, that continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."Sadr said in a statement, government reforms, describing the "timid".
He stressed the need for "reform of the judiciary and Cabinet collapsing and the Election Commission, ministerial bodies, and bodies that are dormant and inactive". http://ift.tt/1M3Cpsv Bad / Broken Link – sorry
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: continued protests "means there is a glimmer of hope of reaching real reforms."
BGG: there is rumor of more sweeping reforms coming - big shake-up in the GOI.
Rcookie: And it seems the words of the week for Sistani are no more words....ACTION!!!!
BGG: IMHO I see this as a real peek into what's going on - Sadr and the opposition have no problem keeping the heat on.
BGG: there must be some waffling on the part of the GOI - the struggle I have talked about over and over - some parts of the GOI wanting to stay corrupt and stay "at the trough"...
rcookie : fat & sleepy BGG!
BGG: the truth is - they keep that up and there will be no money and no Iraq left. Looks like the house cleaning couldn't have come at a better time.
THE BLOG - Dinar Daily NEWS Blog - http://ift.tt/1gVHrsb
BGG: IMHO...
BGG says to rcookie: give us some thoughts
Rcookie: Here is a piece
rcookie : Vice holds previous governments lose $ 600 billion Date: 05/09/2015 16:35 governments the responsibility of corrupt deals in the purchase of weapons contracts and waste of public funds. Said Shawki told / information /
"The previous governments, the executive, legislative and judicial their authorities bear all the legal consequences in the purchase of arms deals that hover around suspicions of corruption in addition to the loss of more than $ 600 billion without the presence of its own final accounts,"
"likely that there would be figures and banks and civil government is accused of corruption issues. " He added that "the current government is committed to the recommendations of the religious authority and Ptoukitat reforms announced by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to purge all state institutions of the rampant corruption in it."
The religious reference in her speech stressed on Friday the need for large capital accounting of corruption and forwarded to the judiciary. Finished
rcookie: Another report today BGG of $45Billion spent in last 10 years and they don’t have 1/3 of their total electricity needs
BGG says to rcookie: Sounds like Sistani points out Maliki, (executive) the MP's (legislative) and Medhat al-Mahmoud (judicial authorities) are the ones responsible for 600 BILLION in losses... he's probably gettin closer to the right number...
rcookie : However the scariest report today is where Iraq & Sudan ranks as Worlds top most corrupt placing 170 out of 175 countries...long report but mind blowing numbers and details!!
BGG: and the current government is COMMITTED to rooting out the corruption.
BGG says to rcookie: it is the truth.
BGG says to rcooki: S&P pointed out "institutional risk" - meaning the very institutions of Iraq are at risk (maybe they ARE the risk)...
Rcookie: Iraq and Sudan, the Arab world's most corrupt Date: 05/09/2015 20:35 http://ift.tt/1FkgFki te.google.com&sandbox=0&sl=ar&u=http://ift.tt/1Ld7C6T QhzRxcT_TlvVw
http://ift.tt/1M3CqfP
BGG says to rcookie: the good news, Abadi appears in high gear to fix it...
Rcookie: And that is Iraq's only hope to survive!!
BGG says to rcookie: Sadr and Sistani don't appear to be willing to let him forget it either
BGG : Sorry - I am getting carried away - let's take a break for ??s
satrib says to BGG: would Martial law make it easier for Abadi to handle Maliki et al?
BGG says to satrib: not impossible - could be a threat from Abadi if those in the "middle ground" can't manage to start acting right ASAP.
BGG says to satrib: in redneck lingo...
Pablo: Did you ever hear anything more of those rumors that M fled to Iran earlier this week?
BGG says to Pablo: I doubt he has yet - but as soon as he thinks he is in danger, he'll ROLL
BGG says to Pablo: bank on it.
BGG says to Pablo: he won't stay for "the trial"...
BGG says to Doodle Brain: You have an interesting article to discuss??
Doodle Brain : Yes, but first a comment, please. For example, Abadi isn't the one going after Maliki, he is letting the facts and the International courts go after him. Abadi's hands a clean. Seems like if he wants to declare martial law, now is the time.
Doodle Brain : he has the power of the citizens behind him.
BGG : Very curious (today) how the news for today seemed late in developing...
BGG: maybe I was just sleepy
Doodle Brain : So if he wants to declare Martial Law, so to speak...now is the time. CBI is opening the files, International Courts going after Maliki, etc. etc. etc
Jtank: they are near rioting now and it will make things worse
BGG says to jtank: not according to sources - lots of demonstrations (mostly peaceful) and Sadr seems to think they need to keep up the pressure.
Jtank: then why martial law
Doodle Brain : Last ditch efforts by guilty players?
BGG says to jtank: I can assure you - behind the scenes, Sadr is called on to be "the bad guy"... Hakim isn't saying a word. He's trying to walk a fine line with Tehran...
BGG says to jtank: but Sadr is always on the "outs" with Iran - he doesn't care
Doodle Brain : when you are ready, I have the article that I though, for me anyway...was curious in its timing.
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Doodle Brain : Yes, but first a comment, please. For example, Abadi isn't the one going after Maliki, he is letting the facts and the International courts go after him. Abadi's hands a clean. Seems like if he wants to declare martial law, now is the time.
Doodle Brain : he has the power of the citizens behind him.
BGG : Very curious (today) how the news for today seemed late in developing...
BGG: maybe I was just sleepy
Doodle Brain : So if he wants to declare Martial Law, so to speak...now is the time. CBI is opening the files, International Courts going after Maliki, etc. etc. etc
Jtank: they are near rioting now and it will make things worse
BGG says to jtank: not according to sources - lots of demonstrations (mostly peaceful) and Sadr seems to think they need to keep up the pressure.
Jtank: then why martial law
Doodle Brain : Last ditch efforts by guilty players?
BGG says to jtank: I can assure you - behind the scenes, Sadr is called on to be "the bad guy"... Hakim isn't saying a word. He's trying to walk a fine line with Tehran...
BGG says to jtank: but Sadr is always on the "outs" with Iran - he doesn't care
Doodle Brain : when you are ready, I have the article that I though, for me anyway...was curious in its timing.
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