Post From wealthwatch.world Chat Room 7-2-15 Early Morning Part 2 of 2
vtech: 3 articles out today on currency black list
vtech: Bankers and economists warn that Iraq be included in the black list and calling for urgent reforms
vtech: THEY NEED TO FIX THIS FAST
jarhead: ‹@vtech› i take it this is bad?
vtech: very very bad and for real and ver serious
jarhead: darn
jarhead: how fast will this happen
vtech: 3 articles from 3 different iraq news locations on it
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vtech: 3 articles out today on currency black list
vtech: Bankers and economists warn that Iraq be included in the black list and calling for urgent reforms
vtech: THEY NEED TO FIX THIS FAST
jarhead: ‹@vtech› i take it this is bad?
vtech: very very bad and for real and ver serious
jarhead: darn
jarhead: how fast will this happen
vtech: 3 articles from 3 different iraq news locations on it
~~~
vtech: warning of the possibility of inclusion of Iraq in international black list in the event does not take the required reforms of the banking sector
jarhead: omg not good
jarhead: so ur sayin its just a atter of gettin off the pot right?
jarhead: matter
jarhead: and in a hurry
vtech: the timeframe for the sale of the dollar's status by 75 million dollars a day was an example of blatant interference in the Bank's policy
jarhead: cbi?
vtech: it is very serious
jarhead: stupidity of pride imo
vtech: the dollar selling process means other hand pull the dinar from the market, and this process help the central bank to curb money supply
vtech: but it's not working
jarhead: so alak needs to go
vtech: alak has nothing do with this
jarhead: get someone that knowswhat theyre doing
jarhead: oh
jarhead: guess i dont know enough about it to form an opinion lol
vtech: the best option is to edit the currency sale restrictions to stabilize prices and filling corruption
vtech: corruption is out of hands over there
jarhead: crazy stuff
vtech: alak is only apart of that with maliki
vtech: Black list folks and it's over for a minimum of a year
vtech: minimum
vtech: these by the 15th of July characters out there have no clue
jarhead: ok
vtech: iraq still has aways to go
jarhead: i dont normally do it but wish i had a link to show a specific person in another room what ur sayin without disclosing u
jarhead: im not for sure bout all of it myself
Sam: GM i think except what I am reading is not making me a happy camper
jarhead: cause jus a lil bit ago this person said the 15th
jarhead: or by the 15th
jarhead: excuse me
vtech: there's articles out today on blacklist and
vtech: Money Laundering Act avoids serious damage to Iraq
jarhead: thank so much
jarhead: i want all to have an understanding
jarhead: we may be i diff rooms but have the same ending goal again thank u
vtech: Bankers and economists warn that Iraq be included in the black list and calling for urgent reforms
vtech: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX
http://ift.tt/1C3a1m4
vtech: Black listing is a REAL thing
vtech: Reform must happen and very very fast
TxBrand: http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS...
http://ift.tt/1C3a01H=
jazzyblue: i was told in another room when i asked them in private .......(the big person of that chat site) ..........when these blacklists articles first came out...........i was told in no uncertain terms that this blacklist is not real and it was a bunch of garbage.........so i researched it........and low and behold there is such a thing ........
[11:00:20 AM] TxBrand: ‹@jazzyblue› :ninja: thumbs up
[11:02:40 AM] jazzyblue: The FATF blacklist was the common shorthand description for the Financial Action Task Force list of "Non-Cooperative Countries or Territories" (NCCTs); i.e., countries which it perceived to be non-cooperative in the global fight against money laundering and terrorist financing.
Although non-appearance on the blacklist was perceived to be a mark of approbation for offshore financial centres (or "tax havens") who are sufficiently well regulated to meet all of the FATF's criteria, in practice the list included countries that did not operate as offshore financial centres.
The FATF updates the blacklist regularly, designating countries to be added or deleted.
The term "non-cooperative" was sometimes criticized as misleading, as a number of the countries which appeared on the list simply lacked the infrastructure or resources to cope with relatively sophisticated financial criminals who try to operate there.
Since 2008 the FATF has, at the behest of G20 leaders, installed a more analytical process of identifying jurisdictions deficient in their anti-money laundering (AML) and anti-terrorist financing regimes.
jazzyblue: THAT is a blacklist
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... that is the FATF site if you look on the right hand side of it you will see Improving Global AML/CFT Compliance: on-going processs and iraq IS on that list :) ty (jazzyblue)
jazzyblue: sorry hit a wrong key lol
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (jazzyblue)
http://ift.tt/1NzFhKY
azzyblue: sorry the link does not want to post
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› is this the site you wanted us to see ? www.fatf-gafi.org/
jazzyblue: and no it was a certain part of that site
jazzyblue: the part that shows that iraq is NOT making adequate progress at this point
azzyblue: but ty for the main site link
whitelions: your welcome
jazzyblue: and the fact that a blacklist DOES exsist, contrary to common misconceptive belief by some
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› I'm going through the site and under country's Iraq is not on the list
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› I don't see compliance ongoing
azzyblue: thats why i was trying to get the link directly to that page
azzyblue: it shows on the right hand side
azzyblue: okay on the home page hit the one that says topics
azzyblue: then hit the one that says high risk and non cooperative jurisdictions
[07/02/2015 11:38:03 AM] whitelions: under what category would it be topics countries or documents
azzyblue: at the top of the home page you will see topics
jazzyblue: click that
azzyblue: then find the one that says non cooperative
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (Donnie)
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (whitelions)
jazzyblue: okay i DID NOT DO THAT
Donnie: that's not good
jazzyblue: someone else did lol
Donnie: what happened?
jazzyblue: well i think its because its a document trying to show
‹@jazzyblue› www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (whitelions)
jazzyblue: LOL
Donnie: is this what happened before also?
jazzyblue: now you see what was happening to me
whitelions: it's the site and how they have there links
jazzyblue: but none the less its there
Sam: HERE WE GO AGAIBN
jazzyblue: if you look you can find it from the main site
www.fatf-gafi. orgs/high-riskandnon-cooperativejurisdictions/ (whitelions)
Sam: so are we still sitting at the point where we have bad news??? something blacklist
Sam: Blacklist....is still the concern of the day
Sam: who was talking about this earlier
jazzyblue: no it was just a passing piece of a conversation
jazzyblue: but it has lasted because of that link wanting to play games
Sam: ok so this is not "pending" bad news
jazzyblue: well on that site it DOES state at this point iraq is not complying adequately :(
jazzyblue: buttt does state that it is ongoing progress
whitelions: the black list is for countys that have junk money and keywords is trying to save his hide but in him trying to save his hide they may get something done lol
Sam: ok jazzy
Sam: ‹@whitelions› so are you saying that basically iraq has junk money but keywords wants to save face and may have a bee now in his bonnet to keep face
[07/02/2015 11:50:39 AM] jazzyblue: define "junk money"
jarhead: omg not good
jarhead: so ur sayin its just a atter of gettin off the pot right?
jarhead: matter
jarhead: and in a hurry
vtech: the timeframe for the sale of the dollar's status by 75 million dollars a day was an example of blatant interference in the Bank's policy
jarhead: cbi?
vtech: it is very serious
jarhead: stupidity of pride imo
vtech: the dollar selling process means other hand pull the dinar from the market, and this process help the central bank to curb money supply
vtech: but it's not working
jarhead: so alak needs to go
vtech: alak has nothing do with this
jarhead: get someone that knowswhat theyre doing
jarhead: oh
jarhead: guess i dont know enough about it to form an opinion lol
vtech: the best option is to edit the currency sale restrictions to stabilize prices and filling corruption
vtech: corruption is out of hands over there
jarhead: crazy stuff
vtech: alak is only apart of that with maliki
vtech: Black list folks and it's over for a minimum of a year
vtech: minimum
vtech: these by the 15th of July characters out there have no clue
jarhead: ok
vtech: iraq still has aways to go
jarhead: i dont normally do it but wish i had a link to show a specific person in another room what ur sayin without disclosing u
jarhead: im not for sure bout all of it myself
Sam: GM i think except what I am reading is not making me a happy camper
jarhead: cause jus a lil bit ago this person said the 15th
jarhead: or by the 15th
jarhead: excuse me
vtech: there's articles out today on blacklist and
vtech: Money Laundering Act avoids serious damage to Iraq
jarhead: thank so much
jarhead: i want all to have an understanding
jarhead: we may be i diff rooms but have the same ending goal again thank u
vtech: Bankers and economists warn that Iraq be included in the black list and calling for urgent reforms
vtech: http://ift.tt/1NzFhKX
http://ift.tt/1C3a1m4
vtech: Black listing is a REAL thing
vtech: Reform must happen and very very fast
TxBrand: http://ift.tt/1LBTFmS...
http://ift.tt/1C3a01H=
jazzyblue: i was told in another room when i asked them in private .......(the big person of that chat site) ..........when these blacklists articles first came out...........i was told in no uncertain terms that this blacklist is not real and it was a bunch of garbage.........so i researched it........and low and behold there is such a thing ........
[11:00:20 AM] TxBrand: ‹@jazzyblue› :ninja: thumbs up
[11:02:40 AM] jazzyblue: The FATF blacklist was the common shorthand description for the Financial Action Task Force list of "Non-Cooperative Countries or Territories" (NCCTs); i.e., countries which it perceived to be non-cooperative in the global fight against money laundering and terrorist financing.
Although non-appearance on the blacklist was perceived to be a mark of approbation for offshore financial centres (or "tax havens") who are sufficiently well regulated to meet all of the FATF's criteria, in practice the list included countries that did not operate as offshore financial centres.
The FATF updates the blacklist regularly, designating countries to be added or deleted.
The term "non-cooperative" was sometimes criticized as misleading, as a number of the countries which appeared on the list simply lacked the infrastructure or resources to cope with relatively sophisticated financial criminals who try to operate there.
Since 2008 the FATF has, at the behest of G20 leaders, installed a more analytical process of identifying jurisdictions deficient in their anti-money laundering (AML) and anti-terrorist financing regimes.
jazzyblue: THAT is a blacklist
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... that is the FATF site if you look on the right hand side of it you will see Improving Global AML/CFT Compliance: on-going processs and iraq IS on that list :) ty (jazzyblue)
jazzyblue: sorry hit a wrong key lol
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (jazzyblue)
http://ift.tt/1NzFhKY
azzyblue: sorry the link does not want to post
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› is this the site you wanted us to see ? www.fatf-gafi.org/
jazzyblue: and no it was a certain part of that site
jazzyblue: the part that shows that iraq is NOT making adequate progress at this point
azzyblue: but ty for the main site link
whitelions: your welcome
jazzyblue: and the fact that a blacklist DOES exsist, contrary to common misconceptive belief by some
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› I'm going through the site and under country's Iraq is not on the list
whitelions: ‹@jazzyblue› I don't see compliance ongoing
azzyblue: thats why i was trying to get the link directly to that page
azzyblue: it shows on the right hand side
azzyblue: okay on the home page hit the one that says topics
azzyblue: then hit the one that says high risk and non cooperative jurisdictions
[07/02/2015 11:38:03 AM] whitelions: under what category would it be topics countries or documents
azzyblue: at the top of the home page you will see topics
jazzyblue: click that
azzyblue: then find the one that says non cooperative
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (Donnie)
www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (whitelions)
jazzyblue: okay i DID NOT DO THAT
Donnie: that's not good
jazzyblue: someone else did lol
Donnie: what happened?
jazzyblue: well i think its because its a document trying to show
‹@jazzyblue› www.fatf-gafi.orgs/... (whitelions)
jazzyblue: LOL
Donnie: is this what happened before also?
jazzyblue: now you see what was happening to me
whitelions: it's the site and how they have there links
jazzyblue: but none the less its there
Sam: HERE WE GO AGAIBN
jazzyblue: if you look you can find it from the main site
www.fatf-gafi. orgs/high-riskandnon-cooperativejurisdictions/ (whitelions)
Sam: so are we still sitting at the point where we have bad news??? something blacklist
Sam: Blacklist....is still the concern of the day
Sam: who was talking about this earlier
jazzyblue: no it was just a passing piece of a conversation
jazzyblue: but it has lasted because of that link wanting to play games
Sam: ok so this is not "pending" bad news
jazzyblue: well on that site it DOES state at this point iraq is not complying adequately :(
jazzyblue: buttt does state that it is ongoing progress
whitelions: the black list is for countys that have junk money and keywords is trying to save his hide but in him trying to save his hide they may get something done lol
Sam: ok jazzy
Sam: ‹@whitelions› so are you saying that basically iraq has junk money but keywords wants to save face and may have a bee now in his bonnet to keep face
[07/02/2015 11:50:39 AM] jazzyblue: define "junk money"
Donnie: Improving Global AML/CFT Compliance: on-going process – 27 February 2015 Paris, 27 February 2015 - As part of its on-going review of compliance with the AML/CFT standards, the FATF has to date identified the following jurisdictions which have strategic AML/CFT deficiencies for which they have developed an action plan with the FATF.
While the situations differ among each jurisdiction, each jurisdiction has provided a written high-level political commitment to address the identified deficiencies.
The FATF welcomes these commitments. A large number of jurisdictions have not yet been reviewed by the FATF. The FATF continues to identify additional jurisdictions, on an on-going basis, that pose a risk to the international financial system.
The FATF and the FATF-style regional bodies (FSRBs) will continue to work with the jurisdictions noted below and to report on the progress made in addressing the identified deficiencies.
The FATF calls on these jurisdictions to complete the implementation of action plans expeditiously and within the proposed timeframes.
The FATF will closely monitor the implementation of these action plans and encourages its members to consider the information presented below. Afghanistan Angola Guyana Indonesia Iraq Lao PDR Panama Papua New Guinea Sudan Syria Yemen
vtech: ‹@Donnie› your thoughts on the blacklist articles that just keep rolling out today
Donnie: no comment
TxBrand: dang is Tony right ? Banking expert Adnan Chalabi (Ashur Bank) said there were two prices for the first exchange in Baghdad and one in Erbil, what exists in Arbil over Baghdad about 20 points and the reasons that led to the increase in price of the dollar, adding that the head of the re-money required to learn how to re-scientific study the heads of migrant money and provide the appropriate conditions for the return of these :shocked:
vtech: ‹@TxBrand› but its not internationally live
TxBrand: The domestic production in the past decades was covering the local need of oil, dairy and leather and other was not Iraq imports of these goods, but now these projects and paid very huge stopped and was run by 2,000 workers, and today 6000 employing workers and represent their salary burden on the budget and this requires General address, calling for the development of domestic production to substitute for imported and ease the burden on the budget.
D business man. Ahmed Ibrahim said the retrenchment is not always true in the present time may cause a recession and kills imports. Banking expert Adel Nouri expressed concern about the Iraq Central Bank be included in the
vtech: Money Laundering Act avoids serious damage to Iraq He called on the governor in a press statement on parliament to speed up passage of the bill to spare Iraq and put it in the black list, which have serious implications on the international position of Iraq and the national economy, pointing to Iraq a few grace period to enact the law requires to give him a preliminary to pass, to save time
whitelions: ‹@vtech› thats the one butt saveing article lol
While the situations differ among each jurisdiction, each jurisdiction has provided a written high-level political commitment to address the identified deficiencies.
The FATF welcomes these commitments. A large number of jurisdictions have not yet been reviewed by the FATF. The FATF continues to identify additional jurisdictions, on an on-going basis, that pose a risk to the international financial system.
The FATF and the FATF-style regional bodies (FSRBs) will continue to work with the jurisdictions noted below and to report on the progress made in addressing the identified deficiencies.
The FATF calls on these jurisdictions to complete the implementation of action plans expeditiously and within the proposed timeframes.
The FATF will closely monitor the implementation of these action plans and encourages its members to consider the information presented below. Afghanistan Angola Guyana Indonesia Iraq Lao PDR Panama Papua New Guinea Sudan Syria Yemen
vtech: ‹@Donnie› your thoughts on the blacklist articles that just keep rolling out today
Donnie: no comment
TxBrand: dang is Tony right ? Banking expert Adnan Chalabi (Ashur Bank) said there were two prices for the first exchange in Baghdad and one in Erbil, what exists in Arbil over Baghdad about 20 points and the reasons that led to the increase in price of the dollar, adding that the head of the re-money required to learn how to re-scientific study the heads of migrant money and provide the appropriate conditions for the return of these :shocked:
vtech: ‹@TxBrand› but its not internationally live
TxBrand: The domestic production in the past decades was covering the local need of oil, dairy and leather and other was not Iraq imports of these goods, but now these projects and paid very huge stopped and was run by 2,000 workers, and today 6000 employing workers and represent their salary burden on the budget and this requires General address, calling for the development of domestic production to substitute for imported and ease the burden on the budget.
D business man. Ahmed Ibrahim said the retrenchment is not always true in the present time may cause a recession and kills imports. Banking expert Adel Nouri expressed concern about the Iraq Central Bank be included in the
vtech: Money Laundering Act avoids serious damage to Iraq He called on the governor in a press statement on parliament to speed up passage of the bill to spare Iraq and put it in the black list, which have serious implications on the international position of Iraq and the national economy, pointing to Iraq a few grace period to enact the law requires to give him a preliminary to pass, to save time
whitelions: ‹@vtech› thats the one butt saveing article lol
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