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chattels: ‹@KiwiDoc› EXCELLENT
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› yes it's a great evening
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› so your take on the Greeks', do you think they will stay the course and try to buck the banks or cave?
chattels: ‹@KiwiDoc› I SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME GREATER FORGIVENESS AND A DEAL DONE THAT KEEPS GREECE IN THE EU
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› it sounds like it, but if the Greek people bull their necks and the banks keep their doors closed it might get more interesting, either way, I doubt as some suggest, that the Iraqi predicament is tied to it.....
chattels: I AM NOT CONNECTING THE TWO
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› agreed nor am I and the waiting as I read your comments from earlier today seem to make even more sense. The waiting is a part of the process, and my belief is that the wait will be worth it.....I just hope I'm alive to see it!!!
chattels: THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A JOURNEY - I WISH THAT I KNEW WHAT FATE HAD IN STORE FOR US
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chattels: ‹@KiwiDoc› EXCELLENT
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› yes it's a great evening
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› so your take on the Greeks', do you think they will stay the course and try to buck the banks or cave?
chattels: ‹@KiwiDoc› I SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME GREATER FORGIVENESS AND A DEAL DONE THAT KEEPS GREECE IN THE EU
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› it sounds like it, but if the Greek people bull their necks and the banks keep their doors closed it might get more interesting, either way, I doubt as some suggest, that the Iraqi predicament is tied to it.....
chattels: I AM NOT CONNECTING THE TWO
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› agreed nor am I and the waiting as I read your comments from earlier today seem to make even more sense. The waiting is a part of the process, and my belief is that the wait will be worth it.....I just hope I'm alive to see it!!!
chattels: THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A JOURNEY - I WISH THAT I KNEW WHAT FATE HAD IN STORE FOR US
~~~
Doug_W: GM Gang
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› GM DOUGGIE
Doug_W: how B Ya 11 ?
sczin11: VERY TIRED...BUT GOOD...U?
sczin11: HUGE NEWS !!! Government intervention of the World Bank as a partner in the formulat
sczin11: BRING ON THE WORLD BANK TO MAKE SURE THE GOVERNMENT PLAN FOR THE CITIZENS OF IRAQ, AS FORMULATED BY PM ABADI, IS FUNDED PROPERLY IN THE BUDGET.... NAMELY THE ACTIVATION OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR
sczin11: [b]Government intervention of the World Bank as a partner in the formulation of the budget in 2016
sczin11: 09/07/2015 12:04
sczin11: Tomorrow Press / Baghdad: senior source revealed in the Cabinet, Thursday, for government approval for the introduction of the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
The source told "tomorrow Press," "The Ministry of Finance wants international help to arrange the matrix priorities for projects required by the ministries, and modify the doors of disbursement,"
noting that "the required amendments of the World Bank will be based on the items included in the government program which Abadi announced the moment of formation of the current government ".
"The government has asked the World Bank loan of one billion dollars to cover the deficit in the budget winning result of the decline in world oil prices," adding that "the World Bank agreed to grant the loan in exchange for conditions related to conduct real economic administrative reforms in the government system, the most prominent stop employment,
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: The government program presented by al-Abadi includes several paragraphs concerning the activation of the private sector and conduct administrative and legal reforms to revive the comprehensive national economy
sczin11: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYn
sczin11: the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
sczin11: the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
chattels: While the news headlines scream of sectarian violence, many everyday Iraqis tell a different story of cohesion and solidarity in cities where the displaced have gathered. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1RmGkne
chattels: “In reality, the situation is very different from what media outlets interested in political spats report.” He added, “You will not find sectarianism here. Sectarianism is found among political elites and armed factions, especially those who came from outside of Iraq, most notably IS.”
chattels: “Sectarianism is weak or nonexistent among social classes, but it’s deep-rooted among divided politicians and parties.”
chattels: “The month of Ramadan was able to show the cohesion of sects and … their children, while most of the media continue to convey division along sectarian lines.”
chattels: AN ENCOURAGING REPORT AT THE GRASS ROOTS AND ORDINARY PEOPLE
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chattels: KDP official: Kurdistan seeks 'amicable divorce' from Baghdad By Yerevan Saeed
chattels: “This[independence] is a process that is happening and it's going to happen. The referendum will be held very soon, I mean in less than two years. It will be for all Iraqi Kurdistan citizens,” said Hawrami in a panel at the Middle East Institute in Washington. “Frankly speaking, Iraq is broken.”
chattels: “Unfortunately, his [PM Abadi] government has not fulfilled the agreement and the promises we have agreed on and he has not fulfilled the agreements that they had with the Sunnis as well,” he explained.
chattels: On the budgetary and energy disputes between Erbil and Baghdad, Hawrami said that the Kurds fulfilled their obligation of exporting 550K barrels of oil per day for several months, but that Baghdad didn’t send Kurdistan Region’s 17 percent budget share.
chattels: “Baghdad claims they don't have cash, but they have cash for PMU [Shiite militias]. Each member of PMU gets $800. There is money for them, but not for the Peshmerga,” he said.
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chattels: KIRKUK, Kurdistan Region—On a visit to the Peshmerga fontlines in Kirkuk on Wednesday Kurdish President Masoud Barzani said that the Kurdistani identity of Kirkuk must be established and the city kept out of enemy hands. Barzani said that in the end it is up to the people of Kirkuk to decide the fate of the province.
“The Peshmerga have paid with blood for this land and we have lost great men,” said Barzani. “But despite that, we will still not impose on people any particular form and it is up to themselves to decide their future.”
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› TYVM
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
chattels: SOMEBODY CALL " ZERODAY " AND TELL HER HOW HAPPY THE KURDS ARE
chattels: A secret to ISIS success: Shock troops who fight to the death By Associated Press
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d6j8: Credit Ratings Credit ratings history Country: Iraq Type: All corporate municipal sovereign Industry: All Company: Show issues: Domestic bonds International bonds Rating agencies: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) AllReset Scale type: All Rating scale: AllCountry Risk Classifications Rating range: Cbonds methodology for maintaining credit ratings total: 1 records on page: 203050100 Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Country Risk Classifications 7 Issuers/ Issues Iraq № Moody's Investors Service Standard & Poor's Fitch Ratings 1 Aaa AAA AAA 2 Aa1 AA+ AA+ 3 Aa2 AA . AA 4 Aa3 AA-. AA- 5 A1 A+ A+ 6 A2 A . A 7 A3 A- A-
sczin11: ‹@d6j8› NO APOLOGY NECESSARY..SO IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THREE ARE REPORTING
d6j8: This is from another site . I thought it was highly important
sczin11: ‹@d6j8› DO U HAVE A LINK?
d6j8: Let me see if they posted a link
sczin11: THIS COMES OUT SAME DAY AS THIS... wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYn
whitelions: ‹@sczin11› ty
Donnie: using cbonds.com/ratings/
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Donnie: this is what shows for Iraq
Donnie: Without registration you can't see the prices.
Donnie: so it seems
Donnie: Oil Rout Set to End as Demand Trumps China, Greece Woes
Donnie: Oil’s biggest slump in four years will lose momentum because the plunge in Chinese equities and Greece’s economic crisis won’t dent global demand, according to Morgan Stanley, UBS Group AG and Societe Generale SA
Donnie: Crude is set for a “modest recovery” after declining 13 percent in the five sessions through Wednesday, Morgan Stanley estimates, while demand will push prices up by year-end, according to hedge fund manager Andrew J. Hall. Any nuclear deal with Iran won’t quickly revive the OPEC member’s crude exports, so wouldn’t immediately weigh on prices, Societe Generale said
Donnie: read more http://ift.tt/1RmGhYu...
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chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—The number of inmates under death sentence in the Kurdistan region has grown to a record high as authorities continue to maintain a de facto moratorium on death penalty.
chattels: In the region’s three provinces, there are now 205 prisoners who have been sentenced to death. The number is higher than in any year since the 1990s when the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) established its autonomous courts, virtually independent of Iraq’s judiciary.
Apart from terrorism-related cases, no other death sentence has been carried out since 2008 because KRG President Masoud Barzani has refrained from ordering the executions to be carried out.
chattels: “These inmates are in terrible mental condition since they have no idea whether they will be executed or not,” said KRG Minister of Social Affairs Muhammad Hawdiani.
chattels: Kurdistan Parliament passed a terrorism bill on April 4, 2006, that instructs the death penalty for acts of terrorism or affiliation with a terrorist organization.
chattels: it reads as though if one is convicted of terrorism then the KRG will " kill you back "[11:25:37 AM] chattels: as Ron White says about the death penalty in Texas
chattels: you kill somebody in Texas and Texas will " kill you back "
TxBrand: :wink: good old southern hospitality
chattels: http://ift.tt/1dh0hsK...
http://ift.tt/1ILYkBH
sczin11: ‹@Doug_W› GM DOUGGIE
Doug_W: how B Ya 11 ?
sczin11: VERY TIRED...BUT GOOD...U?
sczin11: HUGE NEWS !!! Government intervention of the World Bank as a partner in the formulat
sczin11: BRING ON THE WORLD BANK TO MAKE SURE THE GOVERNMENT PLAN FOR THE CITIZENS OF IRAQ, AS FORMULATED BY PM ABADI, IS FUNDED PROPERLY IN THE BUDGET.... NAMELY THE ACTIVATION OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR
sczin11: [b]Government intervention of the World Bank as a partner in the formulation of the budget in 2016
sczin11: 09/07/2015 12:04
sczin11: Tomorrow Press / Baghdad: senior source revealed in the Cabinet, Thursday, for government approval for the introduction of the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
The source told "tomorrow Press," "The Ministry of Finance wants international help to arrange the matrix priorities for projects required by the ministries, and modify the doors of disbursement,"
noting that "the required amendments of the World Bank will be based on the items included in the government program which Abadi announced the moment of formation of the current government ".
"The government has asked the World Bank loan of one billion dollars to cover the deficit in the budget winning result of the decline in world oil prices," adding that "the World Bank agreed to grant the loan in exchange for conditions related to conduct real economic administrative reforms in the government system, the most prominent stop employment,
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: and activating the private sector. "
sczin11: The government program presented by al-Abadi includes several paragraphs concerning the activation of the private sector and conduct administrative and legal reforms to revive the comprehensive national economy
sczin11: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYn
sczin11: the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
sczin11: the World Bank as an essential partner in the formulation of public finance federal budget according to the required economic reforms.
chattels: While the news headlines scream of sectarian violence, many everyday Iraqis tell a different story of cohesion and solidarity in cities where the displaced have gathered. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1RmGkne
chattels: “In reality, the situation is very different from what media outlets interested in political spats report.” He added, “You will not find sectarianism here. Sectarianism is found among political elites and armed factions, especially those who came from outside of Iraq, most notably IS.”
chattels: “Sectarianism is weak or nonexistent among social classes, but it’s deep-rooted among divided politicians and parties.”
chattels: “The month of Ramadan was able to show the cohesion of sects and … their children, while most of the media continue to convey division along sectarian lines.”
chattels: AN ENCOURAGING REPORT AT THE GRASS ROOTS AND ORDINARY PEOPLE
http://ift.tt/1J6DpVW
chattels: KDP official: Kurdistan seeks 'amicable divorce' from Baghdad By Yerevan Saeed
chattels: “This[independence] is a process that is happening and it's going to happen. The referendum will be held very soon, I mean in less than two years. It will be for all Iraqi Kurdistan citizens,” said Hawrami in a panel at the Middle East Institute in Washington. “Frankly speaking, Iraq is broken.”
chattels: “Unfortunately, his [PM Abadi] government has not fulfilled the agreement and the promises we have agreed on and he has not fulfilled the agreements that they had with the Sunnis as well,” he explained.
chattels: On the budgetary and energy disputes between Erbil and Baghdad, Hawrami said that the Kurds fulfilled their obligation of exporting 550K barrels of oil per day for several months, but that Baghdad didn’t send Kurdistan Region’s 17 percent budget share.
chattels: “Baghdad claims they don't have cash, but they have cash for PMU [Shiite militias]. Each member of PMU gets $800. There is money for them, but not for the Peshmerga,” he said.
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYp
chattels: KIRKUK, Kurdistan Region—On a visit to the Peshmerga fontlines in Kirkuk on Wednesday Kurdish President Masoud Barzani said that the Kurdistani identity of Kirkuk must be established and the city kept out of enemy hands. Barzani said that in the end it is up to the people of Kirkuk to decide the fate of the province.
“The Peshmerga have paid with blood for this land and we have lost great men,” said Barzani. “But despite that, we will still not impose on people any particular form and it is up to themselves to decide their future.”
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› TYVM
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
chattels: SOMEBODY CALL " ZERODAY " AND TELL HER HOW HAPPY THE KURDS ARE
chattels: A secret to ISIS success: Shock troops who fight to the death By Associated Press
chattels: http://ift.tt/1Ny5Ort...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYt
d6j8: Credit Ratings Credit ratings history Country: Iraq Type: All corporate municipal sovereign Industry: All Company: Show issues: Domestic bonds International bonds Rating agencies: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) AllReset Scale type: All Rating scale: AllCountry Risk Classifications Rating range: Cbonds methodology for maintaining credit ratings total: 1 records on page: 203050100 Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Country Risk Classifications 7 Issuers/ Issues Iraq № Moody's Investors Service Standard & Poor's Fitch Ratings 1 Aaa AAA AAA 2 Aa1 AA+ AA+ 3 Aa2 AA . AA 4 Aa3 AA-. AA- 5 A1 A+ A+ 6 A2 A . A 7 A3 A- A-
sczin11: ‹@d6j8› NO APOLOGY NECESSARY..SO IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THREE ARE REPORTING
d6j8: This is from another site . I thought it was highly important
sczin11: ‹@d6j8› DO U HAVE A LINK?
d6j8: Let me see if they posted a link
sczin11: THIS COMES OUT SAME DAY AS THIS... wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYn
whitelions: ‹@sczin11› ty
Donnie: using cbonds.com/ratings/
http://ift.tt/1J6DpVY
Donnie: this is what shows for Iraq
Donnie: Without registration you can't see the prices.
Donnie: so it seems
Donnie: Oil Rout Set to End as Demand Trumps China, Greece Woes
Donnie: Oil’s biggest slump in four years will lose momentum because the plunge in Chinese equities and Greece’s economic crisis won’t dent global demand, according to Morgan Stanley, UBS Group AG and Societe Generale SA
Donnie: Crude is set for a “modest recovery” after declining 13 percent in the five sessions through Wednesday, Morgan Stanley estimates, while demand will push prices up by year-end, according to hedge fund manager Andrew J. Hall. Any nuclear deal with Iran won’t quickly revive the OPEC member’s crude exports, so wouldn’t immediately weigh on prices, Societe Generale said
Donnie: read more http://ift.tt/1RmGhYu...
http://ift.tt/1NVbCvN
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—The number of inmates under death sentence in the Kurdistan region has grown to a record high as authorities continue to maintain a de facto moratorium on death penalty.
chattels: In the region’s three provinces, there are now 205 prisoners who have been sentenced to death. The number is higher than in any year since the 1990s when the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) established its autonomous courts, virtually independent of Iraq’s judiciary.
Apart from terrorism-related cases, no other death sentence has been carried out since 2008 because KRG President Masoud Barzani has refrained from ordering the executions to be carried out.
chattels: “These inmates are in terrible mental condition since they have no idea whether they will be executed or not,” said KRG Minister of Social Affairs Muhammad Hawdiani.
chattels: Kurdistan Parliament passed a terrorism bill on April 4, 2006, that instructs the death penalty for acts of terrorism or affiliation with a terrorist organization.
chattels: it reads as though if one is convicted of terrorism then the KRG will " kill you back "[11:25:37 AM] chattels: as Ron White says about the death penalty in Texas
chattels: you kill somebody in Texas and Texas will " kill you back "
TxBrand: :wink: good old southern hospitality
chattels: http://ift.tt/1dh0hsK...
http://ift.tt/1ILYkBH
chattels: The High Representative cited British Cabinet Minister, Michael Gove’s useful definition of the debate as between those who want to 'beat back the crocodiles that come close to the boat' and those who think it is necessary to 'drain the swamp.'
He said that air strikes are beating back the crocodiles but their control of one third of Iraq and half of Syria provides the swamp which keeps them safe and helps regenerate their military power.
He concluded that we need a 'collective strategy to drain the swamp and eradicate Daesh forever.'
chattels: But Kurdish and Iraqi troops cannot alone provide the ground troops that can defeat Daesh and, at the very least, British and American special forces will be needed alongside economic and ideological warfare. There will be much resistance to this but the logic is unsparing if we are to do more than contain Daesh.
chattels: i doubt that the U.S. will commit any more American blood to save Iraq
TxBrand: an American died in Iraq not long ago ..fighting ISIS ..I think
chattels: ‹@TxBrand› an American mercenary fighting with the Peshmarga is the only death that i am aware of
chattels: But my point is not that a life might not be lost out of the 3,500 or so advisors, but whether the U.S. will commit ground forces per se
chattels: chairman of the Parliamentary Integrity Committee MP Talal Zobaie Khudair that a general amnesty, accountability and justice laws and the National Guard emptied of their content and become only the titles and we can not vote in its current form.
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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chattels: " ............. general amnesty, accountability and justice laws and the National Guard ................................... we can not vote in its current form."
TxBrand: right
He said that air strikes are beating back the crocodiles but their control of one third of Iraq and half of Syria provides the swamp which keeps them safe and helps regenerate their military power.
He concluded that we need a 'collective strategy to drain the swamp and eradicate Daesh forever.'
chattels: But Kurdish and Iraqi troops cannot alone provide the ground troops that can defeat Daesh and, at the very least, British and American special forces will be needed alongside economic and ideological warfare. There will be much resistance to this but the logic is unsparing if we are to do more than contain Daesh.
chattels: i doubt that the U.S. will commit any more American blood to save Iraq
TxBrand: an American died in Iraq not long ago ..fighting ISIS ..I think
chattels: ‹@TxBrand› an American mercenary fighting with the Peshmarga is the only death that i am aware of
chattels: But my point is not that a life might not be lost out of the 3,500 or so advisors, but whether the U.S. will commit ground forces per se
chattels: chairman of the Parliamentary Integrity Committee MP Talal Zobaie Khudair that a general amnesty, accountability and justice laws and the National Guard emptied of their content and become only the titles and we can not vote in its current form.
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1RmGhYw
chattels: " ............. general amnesty, accountability and justice laws and the National Guard ................................... we can not vote in its current form."
TxBrand: right
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