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ZOCHOWSKI » May 2nd, 2015, 6:36 am MORNING "DELTA"
WELL THIS CONFIRMS WHAT I HAVE BEEN POSTING FRIDAY..........IMO.......
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IRAQ NEED AN INTERNATIONAL RATE BEFORE THEY GET THE CREDIT RATING, ALSO THE WHOLE PROCESS COULD TAKE 4-6 WEEKS.
OF COURSE THIS OPENS UP A WHOLE MYRIAD OF QUESTIONS.............
THE FIRST IS, "WHEN" DID/WILL THIS START???????
JANUARY/FEBRUARY/MARCH?????
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RE: http://ift.tt/1IxrBiM
ZOCHOWSKI » May 2nd, 2015, 6:36 am MORNING "DELTA"
WELL THIS CONFIRMS WHAT I HAVE BEEN POSTING FRIDAY..........IMO.......
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IRAQ NEED AN INTERNATIONAL RATE BEFORE THEY GET THE CREDIT RATING, ALSO THE WHOLE PROCESS COULD TAKE 4-6 WEEKS.
OF COURSE THIS OPENS UP A WHOLE MYRIAD OF QUESTIONS.............
THE FIRST IS, "WHEN" DID/WILL THIS START???????
JANUARY/FEBRUARY/MARCH?????
....
IMO, I STATED IN THE LAST THREAD..........HENCE, LOANS RECIEVED/DISBURSED IN MONTH OF APRIL/RA-JAB.........
WAS THIS STARTED ALREADY, LOL, BACK IN FEBRUARY/MARCH?????????
AM NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS JUNE/JULY, HOWEVER TIME WILL TELL.....
.
BUT LETS BE SERIOUS FOR A MOMENT, YOU REALLY THINK THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY PASSED THE BUDGET IN JANUARY??????????
THEY KNEW THEY HAD A DEFICIT WHEN OIL DROPPED IN FEBRUARY AND PROCEDURALLY PROBLY STARTED INITIATING LOANS ACCESSABILITY WITH BANKS THEN................
HENCE, GETTING $$$$ IN APRIL..............
AFTER THEY WERE TOLD BY BANKS THAT CERTAIN AGENDA HAD TO BE FULFILLED FIRST....SUCH AS A "PUNCHLIST".......
JUST SAYING, OR AM I TALKING TO MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AGAIN????
MAYBE "DELTA" CAN ELABORATE ON THIS??????
MAYBE I SHOULD JUST STAY IN THE MEADOW.........RIGHT??? M/Z
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Aggiedad77: Good Morning Z and Family,
I see that we do agree on a few things....that is awesome....this 4-6 week process....when did it start.....not just this week I can assure you.....as you pointed out Z, Iraq knew full well in January when they passed the budget they would have at least a $25 billion dollar deficit.
They would need some way to bridge that deficit....the IMF and WBG loans are NOT a part of this process, unless their presence and eventual payback will count something towards Iraq's history as a good loan opportunity.....the loans with the IMF and WBG have different parameters for acquiring them.
Now the bond process that is different because that is a part of world trading, just as with the NYSE or other such entities.....one needs a credit rating to play in those big boy palaces because it takes real money to play there.
Iraq has been in serious talks with Citibank and Deutsche Bank for at least one if not two months concerning these international bonds that are to be denominated in USD....IMO....these discussions have had to be centered around establishing a credit rating that will allow Iraq to move forward with such a bond transaction.
Iraq has indicated they made bonds available back in 2010 and to do so they had to have a reputable credit rating at the time....their currency was not internationally recognized at that time, yet they got a credit rating if what they say is true. A little over a year ago they issued bonds that had at least a "AA" rating associated with them I believe.
Again their currency was not internationally recognized....but what was recognized or known was the MR process that Iraq was taking....that those bonds would be maturing at some point in time and Iraq would by then have an internationally recognized currency in which to pay the owners of the bonds the value of the bonds.....
Those investors, those countries and ultra-large companies/investors knew how the payout would work.....they don't buy such bonds because they are junk, they are bought because they are backed by something of value...something that will go up in value.
Once again Iraq wants us to think or to know they are poised to issued international bonds, denominated in USD....and again today their currency lacks value.....but as I've been saying....the BEST is yet to come....and any investor in said bonds would have to know that or they would run away from such a bond offering....
The bonds that I mentioned above that were offered last year were sucked up by investors in something like one day....one day....those investors knew what was coming....they may not have known exactly when but they knew it to be simmering on the stove.
IMO....in my strongest opinion....all of this is of great value....it points to Iraq doing things, establishing things that point towards a change in their currency, it points to a pinnacle with the MR....it points to a complete turnabout in their economy....
The hints are strewn all over the place....look back at your notes, relisten to what Frank and teams have been trying to tell you.....rethink the news articles....PM Abadi has been insistent that change is coming....it is just a matter of time....yes indeed.....the BEST is yet to come.
Maliki has to be dealt with....but notice in this latest episode of illness.....what didn't happen....what didn't happen that occurred with other high ranking Iraqi officials when they got sick, gravely ill....it was said that M was in a diabetic coma...that can be life-threatening.....yet he was NOT whisked away to some London hospital or some Swiss health clinic.....he was merely taken to an Iraqi hospital in Baghdad....
See his passport has been revoked....he has to have some very special authority to travel outside of the country....the leash is there.....as he wiggles it tightens....of his own accord....of the accord of those who formerly worked for him that now implicate him in many wrongdoings....yes Maliki is being dealt with...but he is not out of the picture yet....so Dr. S waits and bides his time.
Sorry Family that this got so long winded.....but look at all your notes, study them....keep an eye on the articles....pay close attention to those you trust to provide accurate info and intel.....and stay in the mindset that things can and do change for any number of reasons....but even as you see things that make you think this may never happen....today more than any time in this investment's history....today it still pushes forward even as you may think it took a step backward....the BEST is yet to come.
Aloha Randy…….Need to start working on the news summaries now.....blessings to you all
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McDan » May 2nd, 2015, 7:58 am •
More info on Iraq credit rating says may 2 2015 latest update
http://ift.tt/1voHQKe
WAS THIS STARTED ALREADY, LOL, BACK IN FEBRUARY/MARCH?????????
AM NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS JUNE/JULY, HOWEVER TIME WILL TELL.....
.
BUT LETS BE SERIOUS FOR A MOMENT, YOU REALLY THINK THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY PASSED THE BUDGET IN JANUARY??????????
THEY KNEW THEY HAD A DEFICIT WHEN OIL DROPPED IN FEBRUARY AND PROCEDURALLY PROBLY STARTED INITIATING LOANS ACCESSABILITY WITH BANKS THEN................
HENCE, GETTING $$$$ IN APRIL..............
AFTER THEY WERE TOLD BY BANKS THAT CERTAIN AGENDA HAD TO BE FULFILLED FIRST....SUCH AS A "PUNCHLIST".......
JUST SAYING, OR AM I TALKING TO MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AGAIN????
MAYBE "DELTA" CAN ELABORATE ON THIS??????
MAYBE I SHOULD JUST STAY IN THE MEADOW.........RIGHT??? M/Z
************
Aggiedad77: Good Morning Z and Family,
I see that we do agree on a few things....that is awesome....this 4-6 week process....when did it start.....not just this week I can assure you.....as you pointed out Z, Iraq knew full well in January when they passed the budget they would have at least a $25 billion dollar deficit.
They would need some way to bridge that deficit....the IMF and WBG loans are NOT a part of this process, unless their presence and eventual payback will count something towards Iraq's history as a good loan opportunity.....the loans with the IMF and WBG have different parameters for acquiring them.
Now the bond process that is different because that is a part of world trading, just as with the NYSE or other such entities.....one needs a credit rating to play in those big boy palaces because it takes real money to play there.
Iraq has been in serious talks with Citibank and Deutsche Bank for at least one if not two months concerning these international bonds that are to be denominated in USD....IMO....these discussions have had to be centered around establishing a credit rating that will allow Iraq to move forward with such a bond transaction.
Iraq has indicated they made bonds available back in 2010 and to do so they had to have a reputable credit rating at the time....their currency was not internationally recognized at that time, yet they got a credit rating if what they say is true. A little over a year ago they issued bonds that had at least a "AA" rating associated with them I believe.
Again their currency was not internationally recognized....but what was recognized or known was the MR process that Iraq was taking....that those bonds would be maturing at some point in time and Iraq would by then have an internationally recognized currency in which to pay the owners of the bonds the value of the bonds.....
Those investors, those countries and ultra-large companies/investors knew how the payout would work.....they don't buy such bonds because they are junk, they are bought because they are backed by something of value...something that will go up in value.
Once again Iraq wants us to think or to know they are poised to issued international bonds, denominated in USD....and again today their currency lacks value.....but as I've been saying....the BEST is yet to come....and any investor in said bonds would have to know that or they would run away from such a bond offering....
The bonds that I mentioned above that were offered last year were sucked up by investors in something like one day....one day....those investors knew what was coming....they may not have known exactly when but they knew it to be simmering on the stove.
IMO....in my strongest opinion....all of this is of great value....it points to Iraq doing things, establishing things that point towards a change in their currency, it points to a pinnacle with the MR....it points to a complete turnabout in their economy....
The hints are strewn all over the place....look back at your notes, relisten to what Frank and teams have been trying to tell you.....rethink the news articles....PM Abadi has been insistent that change is coming....it is just a matter of time....yes indeed.....the BEST is yet to come.
Maliki has to be dealt with....but notice in this latest episode of illness.....what didn't happen....what didn't happen that occurred with other high ranking Iraqi officials when they got sick, gravely ill....it was said that M was in a diabetic coma...that can be life-threatening.....yet he was NOT whisked away to some London hospital or some Swiss health clinic.....he was merely taken to an Iraqi hospital in Baghdad....
See his passport has been revoked....he has to have some very special authority to travel outside of the country....the leash is there.....as he wiggles it tightens....of his own accord....of the accord of those who formerly worked for him that now implicate him in many wrongdoings....yes Maliki is being dealt with...but he is not out of the picture yet....so Dr. S waits and bides his time.
Sorry Family that this got so long winded.....but look at all your notes, study them....keep an eye on the articles....pay close attention to those you trust to provide accurate info and intel.....and stay in the mindset that things can and do change for any number of reasons....but even as you see things that make you think this may never happen....today more than any time in this investment's history....today it still pushes forward even as you may think it took a step backward....the BEST is yet to come.
Aloha Randy…….Need to start working on the news summaries now.....blessings to you all
**********
McDan » May 2nd, 2015, 7:58 am •
More info on Iraq credit rating says may 2 2015 latest update
http://ift.tt/1voHQKe
Bluedog: » May 2nd, 2015, 3:28 am IMO...
THE IMF AND WORLD BANK LOAN IS JUST A .... MOSQUITO ON AN ELEPHANT.... COMPARED TO WHAT IRAQ NEEDS .......
THAT'S A DROP IN THE PAIL AND HOW WILL IRAQ PAY ALL BACK SALARIES AND GO FORTH WITH REBUILDING THEIR COUNTRY
WE (IRAQ) WANT INVESTORS ............ BUT CANNOT PAY FOLKS TO SWEEP THE STREETS AND PICK UP THE DEBRIS FROM THE WAR TORN AREAS LET ALONE TAKE ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE ....... http://ift.tt/1Jgs6fi ... THIS IS JUST A SPECK OF WHAT IRAQ HAS CONTRACTED TO DO
THE NEW RAIL SYSTEM IN BAGHDAD AND THE NEW TRAINS THAT HAVE ARRIVED ......... THE NEW AIR STRIPS AND AIRPORTS TO HOUSE F-16'S .........
ALL THE MILITARY EQUIP THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED ........... REMEMBER THOSE ARMORED TRUCKS TO SHUFFLE DINARS AROUND THERE WERE MANY OF THOSE
KURDS ARE BUILDING FASTER THAN ANYONE COULD BELIEVE THEY NEED HUGE MONEY ......... BASRA NEEDS CLEANED UP AND THEY HAVE A NEED TO LOOK LIKE DUBAI BECAUSE THIS CITY IS THE FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF IRAQ ..............
THINK OF THE EXPENSE OF THE REBUILDING OF PORT MUBARAK SHARED WITH KUWAIT ..........WE KNOW THE WEALTH OF THIS COUNTRY ABOVE AND BELOW THE GROUND INVESTORS AND THE WORLD KNOW TOO ..........SO THEY NEED TO SPIFF UP AND THEY NEED FUNDS ...........
YOU SEE IRAQI HIGH GOVERNMENT FOLKS OUT SELLING BONDS RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS NOT JUST YESTERDAY BUT BEEN HAPPENING ............. THEY ARE BUILDING ROADS AND NEW SEWAGE SYSTEMS AND PLANTS .......... IT'S A COUNTRY THAT NEEDS GROUND FLOOR REBUILDING
SO THE 2015 BUDGET AND THESE LOANS ARE JUST NOTHING .... THEY PROVIDE CHEESE FOR THE MONTH IMO ......THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT HAVE LESS THAN NOTHING HERE WITH THESE LOANS TO WORK WITH OTHER THAN PAYING OVER DUE PAYMENT .....
THEY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD ........AND REMEMBER THE GREEN LITE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THAT'S THEIR SALVATION DO YOU THINK THE WB AND THE IMF WILL CONTINUE WITHOUT A MOVE OF THE CBI............ NAW ............
IMO THE CURRENCY REFORM HAS BEEN SEEN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AT A LIGHTNING SPEED ............AS DEMPSEY SAID HE WAS NOT CONCERNED WITH ANBAR.... NEITHER AM I...... SECURITY IS AT A HIGH LEVEL THEY WILL DEAL WITH ANBAR IN THEIR OWN WAY ...........
IRAQ HAS A HUGE DREAM AND IT'S NOT AT A ONE TO ONE RATE IT MUST BE A GREATER RATE A COUNTRY WITH THESE DREAMS HAVE TO MOVE VERY FAST ......... JIMO ..... KTFA .....Bluedog
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Bluedog » May 2nd, 2015,
AND FAMILY WHERE IS OR HAS BEEN THE KUWAITI RESPONSE TO IRAQ .......... SEE ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND MUMS THE WORD ........ KUWAIT KNOWS WHATS COMING AND ITS ALL FINANCIAL GAIN SEE THEY MADE DEALS WITH THE U.S. HELP THEY HAVE GREAT INVESTMENTS ......OH YES THEY DO ..........SO THEY WAIT ........ KEY WORD WAIT ............. Bluedog
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edwww: Follow the pattern year after year same thing. Really!!
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bluedog: IMO.........IT SEEMS YOUR STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONVOLUTED ...YOU SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED AND WATCHED FRANKS STUDIES AND THE NEWS ARTICLES.... WE SEE MOVEMENT NOW ......... CHPT 7 WAS GIVEN BACK TO IRAQ
WE HAVE ADVANCED BIG SINCE THAT TIME ......... HAVEN'T WE MY FRIEND?
.IF YOU ARE A RESEARCHER IN YOUR INVESTMENT YOU WOULD SEE THE FAST MOVING PACE AND YOU WOULD WATCH WHAT THE WB AND IMF ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.......
PLEASE STUDY YOUR INVESTMENT RATHER THAN FEED FROM OTHERS... FRANK HAS MADE IT CLEAR HERE AT KTFA HOW FAST THINGS ARE MOVING .......
YOU HAVE INVESTED...... SO LIKE YOUR INVESTMENT..... IN ANYTHING.....
"STUDY".....
SAME OLE SAME OLE ........NO WAY MY FRIEND...........SEE YOU LEFT IN A HURRY
COME BACK SO WE CAN STUDY OUR INVESTMENT ....LOOKING FORWARD TO IT
.KTFA.......Bluedog
THE IMF AND WORLD BANK LOAN IS JUST A .... MOSQUITO ON AN ELEPHANT.... COMPARED TO WHAT IRAQ NEEDS .......
THAT'S A DROP IN THE PAIL AND HOW WILL IRAQ PAY ALL BACK SALARIES AND GO FORTH WITH REBUILDING THEIR COUNTRY
WE (IRAQ) WANT INVESTORS ............ BUT CANNOT PAY FOLKS TO SWEEP THE STREETS AND PICK UP THE DEBRIS FROM THE WAR TORN AREAS LET ALONE TAKE ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE ....... http://ift.tt/1Jgs6fi ... THIS IS JUST A SPECK OF WHAT IRAQ HAS CONTRACTED TO DO
THE NEW RAIL SYSTEM IN BAGHDAD AND THE NEW TRAINS THAT HAVE ARRIVED ......... THE NEW AIR STRIPS AND AIRPORTS TO HOUSE F-16'S .........
ALL THE MILITARY EQUIP THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED ........... REMEMBER THOSE ARMORED TRUCKS TO SHUFFLE DINARS AROUND THERE WERE MANY OF THOSE
KURDS ARE BUILDING FASTER THAN ANYONE COULD BELIEVE THEY NEED HUGE MONEY ......... BASRA NEEDS CLEANED UP AND THEY HAVE A NEED TO LOOK LIKE DUBAI BECAUSE THIS CITY IS THE FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF IRAQ ..............
THINK OF THE EXPENSE OF THE REBUILDING OF PORT MUBARAK SHARED WITH KUWAIT ..........WE KNOW THE WEALTH OF THIS COUNTRY ABOVE AND BELOW THE GROUND INVESTORS AND THE WORLD KNOW TOO ..........SO THEY NEED TO SPIFF UP AND THEY NEED FUNDS ...........
YOU SEE IRAQI HIGH GOVERNMENT FOLKS OUT SELLING BONDS RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS NOT JUST YESTERDAY BUT BEEN HAPPENING ............. THEY ARE BUILDING ROADS AND NEW SEWAGE SYSTEMS AND PLANTS .......... IT'S A COUNTRY THAT NEEDS GROUND FLOOR REBUILDING
SO THE 2015 BUDGET AND THESE LOANS ARE JUST NOTHING .... THEY PROVIDE CHEESE FOR THE MONTH IMO ......THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT HAVE LESS THAN NOTHING HERE WITH THESE LOANS TO WORK WITH OTHER THAN PAYING OVER DUE PAYMENT .....
THEY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD ........AND REMEMBER THE GREEN LITE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THAT'S THEIR SALVATION DO YOU THINK THE WB AND THE IMF WILL CONTINUE WITHOUT A MOVE OF THE CBI............ NAW ............
IMO THE CURRENCY REFORM HAS BEEN SEEN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AT A LIGHTNING SPEED ............AS DEMPSEY SAID HE WAS NOT CONCERNED WITH ANBAR.... NEITHER AM I...... SECURITY IS AT A HIGH LEVEL THEY WILL DEAL WITH ANBAR IN THEIR OWN WAY ...........
IRAQ HAS A HUGE DREAM AND IT'S NOT AT A ONE TO ONE RATE IT MUST BE A GREATER RATE A COUNTRY WITH THESE DREAMS HAVE TO MOVE VERY FAST ......... JIMO ..... KTFA .....Bluedog
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Bluedog » May 2nd, 2015,
AND FAMILY WHERE IS OR HAS BEEN THE KUWAITI RESPONSE TO IRAQ .......... SEE ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND MUMS THE WORD ........ KUWAIT KNOWS WHATS COMING AND ITS ALL FINANCIAL GAIN SEE THEY MADE DEALS WITH THE U.S. HELP THEY HAVE GREAT INVESTMENTS ......OH YES THEY DO ..........SO THEY WAIT ........ KEY WORD WAIT ............. Bluedog
**********
edwww: Follow the pattern year after year same thing. Really!!
**********
bluedog: IMO.........IT SEEMS YOUR STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONVOLUTED ...YOU SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED AND WATCHED FRANKS STUDIES AND THE NEWS ARTICLES.... WE SEE MOVEMENT NOW ......... CHPT 7 WAS GIVEN BACK TO IRAQ
WE HAVE ADVANCED BIG SINCE THAT TIME ......... HAVEN'T WE MY FRIEND?
.IF YOU ARE A RESEARCHER IN YOUR INVESTMENT YOU WOULD SEE THE FAST MOVING PACE AND YOU WOULD WATCH WHAT THE WB AND IMF ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.......
PLEASE STUDY YOUR INVESTMENT RATHER THAN FEED FROM OTHERS... FRANK HAS MADE IT CLEAR HERE AT KTFA HOW FAST THINGS ARE MOVING .......
YOU HAVE INVESTED...... SO LIKE YOUR INVESTMENT..... IN ANYTHING.....
"STUDY".....
SAME OLE SAME OLE ........NO WAY MY FRIEND...........SEE YOU LEFT IN A HURRY
COME BACK SO WE CAN STUDY OUR INVESTMENT ....LOOKING FORWARD TO IT
.KTFA.......Bluedog
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