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Chat Room Excerpts & Highlights
Dinar Updates Tuesday Chat 3-01-16 Part 2 of 2
rcookie says():WOW...HERE IS SOME ORE INSIGHT INTO ABADIS NEW BLOC...
BREAKING AWAY FROM MALIKI..AND ONGOING OBSTRUCTION IN DIVISION OF NATIONAL ALLIANCE.....
IN FRONT OF THE PENDING VISIT FROM IRANIAN PRESIDENT...AND RUSH TO IMPLEMENT CABINET RESHUFLE REFORM....
rcookie says():GOTTA READ THIS STUFF......
rcookie says():Motionless extensively inside the Green .. Abadi looking to form a parliamentary bloc to pass reforms and overcome the "Alliance"
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Chat Room Excerpts & Highlights
Dinar Updates Tuesday Chat 3-01-16 Part 2 of 2
rcookie says():WOW...HERE IS SOME ORE INSIGHT INTO ABADIS NEW BLOC...
BREAKING AWAY FROM MALIKI..AND ONGOING OBSTRUCTION IN DIVISION OF NATIONAL ALLIANCE.....
IN FRONT OF THE PENDING VISIT FROM IRANIAN PRESIDENT...AND RUSH TO IMPLEMENT CABINET RESHUFLE REFORM....
rcookie says():GOTTA READ THIS STUFF......
rcookie says():Motionless extensively inside the Green .. Abadi looking to form a parliamentary bloc to pass reforms and overcome the "Alliance"
~~~
01-03-2016 11:55 PM Intensify Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, consultations aimed at forming a parliamentary bloc supported in the conduct of the reshuffle, which was advocated by weeks without being able to achieve as a result of the deepening differences within the 'National Alliance' ruler of the country.
The attention of a senior commander source in the Supreme Islamic Council, which falls in the 'National Alliance', that Abadi began moves and wide within the Sunni and Kurdish political blocs and blocks minority parliament such as Christianity and civil power to form a block or parliamentary bloc supporter of him to get comfortable ratio in parliament gives him legitimacy Ministerial Amendment .
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rcookie says():ABADI = GENIUS...NO...SUPER GENIUS...
rcookie says():It means breaking the National Alliance, which caught the government decisions. And it threatens to step Abadi, if successful, a broken ring on the one hand and the disintegration of the coalition on the other hand.
Differences National Alliance
And it emphasizes political sources from within the 'National Alliance' coalition blocs failed to reach agreement on a new form of government after the forthcoming amendment, the center of some of the blocks stuck to its position between those who call not to change and sees the need for a thorough change of government extends to the Prime Minister himself.
Corroborating these leaks invited the cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, on Monday, to organize massive demonstrations in front of the gates of the Green Zone in Baghdad and in front of the headquarters of the local government in southern and central provinces calling for reform and an end to the current situation.
rcookie says():In this context, the leader of the Islamic Supreme Council says that 'the meeting between al-Abadi and members of the Secretariat of the Alliance, which lasted until late on Sunday (yesterday) and lasted for about three hours, ended without a mention, after the insistence of al-Abadi to attend the heads of the coalition blocs and not the result of send their representatives to the meeting. '
According to the leader himself, the meeting included members of the Secretariat of the Alliance: Ammar al-Hakim, and Hussein al-Shahristani, and on the Keywords, and Zia al-Asadi, and Khodair al, Abdul-Karim al-Ansari, as well as a representative of the former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, as it rejected the last attendance.
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rcookie says():The source suggests that the 'al-Abadi told the assembled impossibility of the success of the current government unless it is implemented internal reforms in, and the independence of the decisions taken by the government away from the political parties represented by the Minister that'.
According to the source, the 'four out of the three blocks has refused to put Abadi and considered unconvincing, and agreed to be the new amendment radical Abadi, to include himself, while others went far beyond replacing Salim al-Jubouri and Fuad Masum, a key Parliamentary Republic', stressing that 'it was agreed at another meeting on Wednesday (tomorrow) house Ammar al-Hakim in Baghdad's Jadiriyah
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rcookie says():And about the reason for rejection of the blocks of a paper-Abadi, a leader of the Islamic Supreme Council indicates that some blocks find targeted her, especially the Sadrists, who began his position totally contrary to what was announced in the month of January last.
Sadrist movement
In the meantime, look at the last chest move, and move his residence from Najaf to Baghdad as well as the accumulation of Aloaav of his militia in the capital, and his call for demonstrations, to this stage as a critical phase of the Alliance's political whole process, may enter the country in great distress, particularly The chances are that exploit the demonstrations views and are targeting.
Which will be interpreted as a political target and not a terrorist attack because of the escalation happening between militias League of the Righteous, led by Qais al-Khazali and Badr led by Hadi al-Amiri and between the militias Brigades of
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rcookie says():Moqtada al-Sadr peace during the hours-two years and seventy, including directing one of the satellite channels of the militias Alasaib insults on air for the leader of the Sadrist movement.
He had been monitoring the dynamic range inside the Green Zone since Monday to politicians and clerics and prominent Shiite personalities morning through meetings and meetings in the parliament despite the lack of a scheduled hearing.
Meanwhile, other sources indicate prospective meeting between the US ambassador in Baghdad, Stuart Jones, a former prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, this week, it will be the first since he was ousted from his post the end of 2014, US pressure.
The sources confirm that the meeting is scheduled to address the current problems that have increased after the lifting of the religious authority, Ali al-Sistani hand of the political file and his refusal to meet with the leaders of the alliance.
About these developments, the Iraqi politician, Mohammed al-Hamdani says, that
rcookie says():that 'everything is improbable does not rule out any scenario in this crisis, there is the intransigence of the blocks and the alliance this time of internal crisis, including the largest of the political crisis in the government and parliament in general'.
Hamdani and points out that this will impact heavily on the public security file, both in Baghdad and the south or in the battlefields against al (Daash), and in particular that the 'division within the Shiite house in the National Alliance reached a level militias, the crowd that the succession of each group of which party or bloc within the coalition. "
For his part, he is a member of the Iraqi parliament for the National Alliance, Haider Alfoada, that prime minister must clarify the reasons for the change, which seeks to the vote on his government. And calls Alfoada parliament refused to vote on the new cabinet line-up before listening to the program Abadi realistic and practical in the security and economic reform until the
rcookie says():there is no step solution to silence the people, he said.
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cowboywads says():GREAT JOB RCOOKIE(y)
rcookie says():MALIKI GETTING CALLED INTO THE US PRICIPALS OFFICE PERSONALLY FOR 1ST TIME SINCE HE WAS OSTED FROM HIS POST IN 2014!!!!!!!!!......
subgirl says to rcookie():(y)Now that is some awesome news!!!
rcookie says():MEETING WILL ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE INCREASED SINCE THE LIFTING OF SISTANI COMMENTING ON POLITICAL ISSUES..AND REFUSAL TO MEET WITH THE ALLIANCE.....
Hutch says to rcookie():GONNA GET A PADDELING! :D
subgirl says():NO NEWSTIME TONIGHT per MILLIONDAY but tomorrow night she will be in... (SMILE)
Baxter1243 says():Now if he is out of the Palace... Just change the locks on doors before he comes back... (y) Enough of this 48 hours to get out stuff... that was over 4 months ago.. (y)
jimplants says():it would be tragic if maliki stepped on an IED
rcookie says():THE RESULTING INTERNAL CRISIS AND UPHEAVEL COULD HAVE HEAVY IMPACT TO PUBLIC SECURITY IN BAGHDAD & SOUTH AS WELL AS IN THE ISIS BATTLEFIELDS....
Baxter1243 says():With our luck... it wouldnt explode
Baxter1243 says():Its hard to believe.. that with all of the money stealing and killings that he has ordered.. this Maliki is still running around free..
rcookie says():THERE IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY THEY ARE GOING TO ALLOW MALIKI AND HIS EDDIE HASKEL WAYS...INFLICT PROBLEMS ON THE VARIOUS FRONTS...BE IT CORRUPTION OR ISIS BATTLEFIELD.....
rcookie says():AND ABADI NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THE VIEING FOR POWER OR DEBATE FROM WITHIN THE PARTY...SO DISCONNECT AND DIFFUSE...
rcookie says():WILE E. COYOTE....SUPER GENIUS......
rcookie says():THOSE 2 PIECES ON ABADIS NEW BLOC...BACKGROUND REASONING...TIMING...AND IMPLICATIONS IS AWESOME......
loopback says():IF ABADI DOES
Loopback says():AWAY
Pablo says():Who is Abadi going to make a coalition with if he's kicking the State of Law out?
Loopback says():Hakim and Sadr are for these reforms. Abadi has been making agreements with the Kurds and they seems to be supportive. The Sunnis really do not like Maliki.
Pablo says():Not sure anyone like Maliki. :)
Loopback says():If Adabi builds a new bloc with these groups it would be a powerhouse in Parliament.
subgirl says():wow! that is cool Loop :) thanks for sharing! :)
Loopback says():It is important to remember that these type of alliances are very common place in Iraqi politics and they have shifted like this in the past.
Pablo says():How long do you think it will take for him to build this new group?
Loopback says():In fact that is how Maliki was able to get elected as PM the first time, from what I have read.
Loopback says to Pablo():Time is of the essence. We know that Sadr has given them a very short window to get this done in.
Pablo says():True.
subgirl says to Loopback():I think it seems like less than 30 days maybe?
daytrader says to Loopback():Would have to believe that Abadi already had backroom agreements with all these groups before he went public with it.
Pablo says():Probably did.
Loopback says to Pablo():And Sadr is not going away. He is very very serious about these reforms getting done and he controls a sizable armed force.
tman23 says():Met the President of Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, on Tuesday, with the integrity Commission and the Council of the judiciary and judges competent in investigating issues of integrity in all cities in Kurdistan and the Office of financial supervision.
Barzani, speaking at the meeting that the implementation of reform programs and anti-corruption, emphasizing its full support to the judiciary and the integrity and financial audit.
He said that "confront corruption and start a campaign of reforms is a sacred national duty and an urgent requirement and project for the people of Kurdistan."
The President of the Kurdistan region, "should not exclude anyone in any position or rank was investigations and legal accountabilities, I promise that I will do my best to support the judiciary and oversight bodies in the region."
The President of the Kurdistan region, "should not exclude anyone in any position or rank was investigations and legal accountabilities, I promise that I will do my best !!
Loopback says to subgirl):March 30th is day 45 of Sadrs timetable.
subgirl says to Loopback():thank you :)
Pablo says():Did Sadr just have a 45 day timetable or was it 60?
Loopback says to subgirl():Today was day 16 if you do count Feb 14th (The day he gave his initial speach and introduced the reforms, which include the reshuffle).
Loopback says to Pablo():45 days
Pablo says():1 month left.
subgirl says to Loopback():oh wow! thanks again :)
Pablo says():So, will they hold off on the RV till after this or will they just go ahead with it?
larrykn says():loop do you think it will take the full 30 days
tman23 says():And there you have it...... The Kurds are onboard with trcking down corruption and prosecuting....... The reason the Kurd region is SO IMPORTANT......
You can never have a RV of the IQD without this region cooperating.......And it appears they are onboard following Abadi's changes.........
subgirl says to tman23():(y) yyaayy!
The attention of a senior commander source in the Supreme Islamic Council, which falls in the 'National Alliance', that Abadi began moves and wide within the Sunni and Kurdish political blocs and blocks minority parliament such as Christianity and civil power to form a block or parliamentary bloc supporter of him to get comfortable ratio in parliament gives him legitimacy Ministerial Amendment .
Read More :
http://ift.tt/1TSDjKs
rcookie says():ABADI = GENIUS...NO...SUPER GENIUS...
rcookie says():It means breaking the National Alliance, which caught the government decisions. And it threatens to step Abadi, if successful, a broken ring on the one hand and the disintegration of the coalition on the other hand.
Differences National Alliance
And it emphasizes political sources from within the 'National Alliance' coalition blocs failed to reach agreement on a new form of government after the forthcoming amendment, the center of some of the blocks stuck to its position between those who call not to change and sees the need for a thorough change of government extends to the Prime Minister himself.
Corroborating these leaks invited the cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, on Monday, to organize massive demonstrations in front of the gates of the Green Zone in Baghdad and in front of the headquarters of the local government in southern and central provinces calling for reform and an end to the current situation.
rcookie says():In this context, the leader of the Islamic Supreme Council says that 'the meeting between al-Abadi and members of the Secretariat of the Alliance, which lasted until late on Sunday (yesterday) and lasted for about three hours, ended without a mention, after the insistence of al-Abadi to attend the heads of the coalition blocs and not the result of send their representatives to the meeting. '
According to the leader himself, the meeting included members of the Secretariat of the Alliance: Ammar al-Hakim, and Hussein al-Shahristani, and on the Keywords, and Zia al-Asadi, and Khodair al, Abdul-Karim al-Ansari, as well as a representative of the former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, as it rejected the last attendance.
Read More :
http://ift.tt/1TSDjKs
rcookie says():The source suggests that the 'al-Abadi told the assembled impossibility of the success of the current government unless it is implemented internal reforms in, and the independence of the decisions taken by the government away from the political parties represented by the Minister that'.
According to the source, the 'four out of the three blocks has refused to put Abadi and considered unconvincing, and agreed to be the new amendment radical Abadi, to include himself, while others went far beyond replacing Salim al-Jubouri and Fuad Masum, a key Parliamentary Republic', stressing that 'it was agreed at another meeting on Wednesday (tomorrow) house Ammar al-Hakim in Baghdad's Jadiriyah
Read More :
http://ift.tt/1TSDjKs
rcookie says():And about the reason for rejection of the blocks of a paper-Abadi, a leader of the Islamic Supreme Council indicates that some blocks find targeted her, especially the Sadrists, who began his position totally contrary to what was announced in the month of January last.
Sadrist movement
In the meantime, look at the last chest move, and move his residence from Najaf to Baghdad as well as the accumulation of Aloaav of his militia in the capital, and his call for demonstrations, to this stage as a critical phase of the Alliance's political whole process, may enter the country in great distress, particularly The chances are that exploit the demonstrations views and are targeting.
Which will be interpreted as a political target and not a terrorist attack because of the escalation happening between militias League of the Righteous, led by Qais al-Khazali and Badr led by Hadi al-Amiri and between the militias Brigades of
Read More :
http://ift.tt/1RoP5rf
rcookie says():Moqtada al-Sadr peace during the hours-two years and seventy, including directing one of the satellite channels of the militias Alasaib insults on air for the leader of the Sadrist movement.
He had been monitoring the dynamic range inside the Green Zone since Monday to politicians and clerics and prominent Shiite personalities morning through meetings and meetings in the parliament despite the lack of a scheduled hearing.
Meanwhile, other sources indicate prospective meeting between the US ambassador in Baghdad, Stuart Jones, a former prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, this week, it will be the first since he was ousted from his post the end of 2014, US pressure.
The sources confirm that the meeting is scheduled to address the current problems that have increased after the lifting of the religious authority, Ali al-Sistani hand of the political file and his refusal to meet with the leaders of the alliance.
About these developments, the Iraqi politician, Mohammed al-Hamdani says, that
rcookie says():that 'everything is improbable does not rule out any scenario in this crisis, there is the intransigence of the blocks and the alliance this time of internal crisis, including the largest of the political crisis in the government and parliament in general'.
Hamdani and points out that this will impact heavily on the public security file, both in Baghdad and the south or in the battlefields against al (Daash), and in particular that the 'division within the Shiite house in the National Alliance reached a level militias, the crowd that the succession of each group of which party or bloc within the coalition. "
For his part, he is a member of the Iraqi parliament for the National Alliance, Haider Alfoada, that prime minister must clarify the reasons for the change, which seeks to the vote on his government. And calls Alfoada parliament refused to vote on the new cabinet line-up before listening to the program Abadi realistic and practical in the security and economic reform until the
rcookie says():there is no step solution to silence the people, he said.
http://ift.tt/1U3jksX
http://ift.tt/1QhqLGM
Read More :http://ift.tt/1TSDllv
http://ift.tt/1TSDjKs
cowboywads says():GREAT JOB RCOOKIE(y)
rcookie says():MALIKI GETTING CALLED INTO THE US PRICIPALS OFFICE PERSONALLY FOR 1ST TIME SINCE HE WAS OSTED FROM HIS POST IN 2014!!!!!!!!!......
subgirl says to rcookie():(y)Now that is some awesome news!!!
rcookie says():MEETING WILL ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE INCREASED SINCE THE LIFTING OF SISTANI COMMENTING ON POLITICAL ISSUES..AND REFUSAL TO MEET WITH THE ALLIANCE.....
Hutch says to rcookie():GONNA GET A PADDELING! :D
subgirl says():NO NEWSTIME TONIGHT per MILLIONDAY but tomorrow night she will be in... (SMILE)
Baxter1243 says():Now if he is out of the Palace... Just change the locks on doors before he comes back... (y) Enough of this 48 hours to get out stuff... that was over 4 months ago.. (y)
jimplants says():it would be tragic if maliki stepped on an IED
rcookie says():THE RESULTING INTERNAL CRISIS AND UPHEAVEL COULD HAVE HEAVY IMPACT TO PUBLIC SECURITY IN BAGHDAD & SOUTH AS WELL AS IN THE ISIS BATTLEFIELDS....
Baxter1243 says():With our luck... it wouldnt explode
Baxter1243 says():Its hard to believe.. that with all of the money stealing and killings that he has ordered.. this Maliki is still running around free..
rcookie says():THERE IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY THEY ARE GOING TO ALLOW MALIKI AND HIS EDDIE HASKEL WAYS...INFLICT PROBLEMS ON THE VARIOUS FRONTS...BE IT CORRUPTION OR ISIS BATTLEFIELD.....
rcookie says():AND ABADI NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THE VIEING FOR POWER OR DEBATE FROM WITHIN THE PARTY...SO DISCONNECT AND DIFFUSE...
rcookie says():WILE E. COYOTE....SUPER GENIUS......
rcookie says():THOSE 2 PIECES ON ABADIS NEW BLOC...BACKGROUND REASONING...TIMING...AND IMPLICATIONS IS AWESOME......
loopback says():IF ABADI DOES
Loopback says():AWAY
Pablo says():Who is Abadi going to make a coalition with if he's kicking the State of Law out?
Loopback says():Hakim and Sadr are for these reforms. Abadi has been making agreements with the Kurds and they seems to be supportive. The Sunnis really do not like Maliki.
Pablo says():Not sure anyone like Maliki. :)
Loopback says():If Adabi builds a new bloc with these groups it would be a powerhouse in Parliament.
subgirl says():wow! that is cool Loop :) thanks for sharing! :)
Loopback says():It is important to remember that these type of alliances are very common place in Iraqi politics and they have shifted like this in the past.
Pablo says():How long do you think it will take for him to build this new group?
Loopback says():In fact that is how Maliki was able to get elected as PM the first time, from what I have read.
Loopback says to Pablo():Time is of the essence. We know that Sadr has given them a very short window to get this done in.
Pablo says():True.
subgirl says to Loopback():I think it seems like less than 30 days maybe?
daytrader says to Loopback():Would have to believe that Abadi already had backroom agreements with all these groups before he went public with it.
Pablo says():Probably did.
Loopback says to Pablo():And Sadr is not going away. He is very very serious about these reforms getting done and he controls a sizable armed force.
tman23 says():Met the President of Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, on Tuesday, with the integrity Commission and the Council of the judiciary and judges competent in investigating issues of integrity in all cities in Kurdistan and the Office of financial supervision.
Barzani, speaking at the meeting that the implementation of reform programs and anti-corruption, emphasizing its full support to the judiciary and the integrity and financial audit.
He said that "confront corruption and start a campaign of reforms is a sacred national duty and an urgent requirement and project for the people of Kurdistan."
The President of the Kurdistan region, "should not exclude anyone in any position or rank was investigations and legal accountabilities, I promise that I will do my best to support the judiciary and oversight bodies in the region."
The President of the Kurdistan region, "should not exclude anyone in any position or rank was investigations and legal accountabilities, I promise that I will do my best !!
Loopback says to subgirl):March 30th is day 45 of Sadrs timetable.
subgirl says to Loopback():thank you :)
Pablo says():Did Sadr just have a 45 day timetable or was it 60?
Loopback says to subgirl():Today was day 16 if you do count Feb 14th (The day he gave his initial speach and introduced the reforms, which include the reshuffle).
Loopback says to Pablo():45 days
Pablo says():1 month left.
subgirl says to Loopback():oh wow! thanks again :)
Pablo says():So, will they hold off on the RV till after this or will they just go ahead with it?
larrykn says():loop do you think it will take the full 30 days
tman23 says():And there you have it...... The Kurds are onboard with trcking down corruption and prosecuting....... The reason the Kurd region is SO IMPORTANT......
You can never have a RV of the IQD without this region cooperating.......And it appears they are onboard following Abadi's changes.........
subgirl says to tman23():(y) yyaayy!
larrykn says():like everything else they do you get to wonder if this isn't done already that is why they are talking about it
subgirl says to larrykn():true!
Loopback says to larrykn():Some article have indicated it would take 30 days while others (from yesterday) are saying within 10 days.
larrykn says():yes I saw the one that said in10 days
Loopback says to larrykn():I am hopeful for the closer time frame.
larrykn says():me too:)
sheila3 says to Loopback():(y)
subgirl says to larrykn():me too!! :)
maine says():me three!
tman23 says():It STILL is in play that the 3 zeros in internal accounting may have begun at the start of the New Year AND just like 90 day remittances, the end of the first quarter (March).....will have to show the CBI accounting for the first quarter......
Loopback says to larrykn():The 10 day time frame was to get the list of new cabinet members to Parliament. That is why the articles that rcookie found about the forming of a new alliance is so big and the timing is very advantageous
Loopback says to daytrader():I agree
larrykn says():I agree loop
larrykn says():what a shakeup that will be wow
subgirl says to Loopback():(y)
Pablo says():Some people will probably be shaking....in their boots!
Read More :http://ift.tt/1RoP5rh.
subgirl says to larrykn():true!
Loopback says to larrykn():Some article have indicated it would take 30 days while others (from yesterday) are saying within 10 days.
larrykn says():yes I saw the one that said in10 days
Loopback says to larrykn():I am hopeful for the closer time frame.
larrykn says():me too:)
sheila3 says to Loopback():(y)
subgirl says to larrykn():me too!! :)
maine says():me three!
tman23 says():It STILL is in play that the 3 zeros in internal accounting may have begun at the start of the New Year AND just like 90 day remittances, the end of the first quarter (March).....will have to show the CBI accounting for the first quarter......
Loopback says to larrykn():The 10 day time frame was to get the list of new cabinet members to Parliament. That is why the articles that rcookie found about the forming of a new alliance is so big and the timing is very advantageous
Loopback says to daytrader():I agree
larrykn says():I agree loop
larrykn says():what a shakeup that will be wow
subgirl says to Loopback():(y)
Pablo says():Some people will probably be shaking....in their boots!
Read More :http://ift.tt/1RoP5rh.
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