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Wealthwatch Late Night Member Chat 10-01-15
RVPlease: Do they have to read these laws.... two or three times... then vote...... which is it.... anyone know?
newbieDA: I personally think it goes first, second, then vote
newbieDA: I think people get confused and say third then vote, but its probably third and vote
Donnie: The website only has places for date of first read, second read and vote.
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› right
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› www.parliament.iq/ is down 500 internal
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Wealthwatch Late Night Member Chat 10-01-15
RVPlease: Do they have to read these laws.... two or three times... then vote...... which is it.... anyone know?
newbieDA: I personally think it goes first, second, then vote
newbieDA: I think people get confused and say third then vote, but its probably third and vote
Donnie: The website only has places for date of first read, second read and vote.
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› right
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› www.parliament.iq/ is down 500 internal
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http://ift.tt/1dGvVtA 500 - Internal server error.
newbieDA: hmm
Donnie: ‹@newbieDA› yup
Donnie: happens frequently
Donnie: usually this time of day cause it's in the middle of the night in Iraq. most likely for maintenance. IMO of course
newbieDA: its been pretty good to me, like 3rd time
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› I agree, just maintenance, I am not alarmed
Tootsie: ‹@newbieDA› agreed, 2 readings, 3rd meeting probably just reading prior to the VOTE . maybe just the title, or soch
Tootsie: such,
Tootsie: 3rd is always vote ~ semantics
Tootsie: later gaters ~~ nada much ongoing , so think will have a bubbly and watch TV ,
newbieDA: ‹@Tootsie› ty sorry I missed you =(
newbieDA: News & Announcements Tender No. (2015/7) 09/30/2015
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› ‹@newbieDA› ‹@newbieDA› hello. good to see you... Do you know what laws were voted/approved today? I've missed seeing that posted today
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› read history. Great observations, as always. Than you
newbieDA: most important is the Islamic Banking Law, it passed
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› wow, 1 out of the 5 or 6 said to be vital?
newbieDA: ‹@Lauren305› its still not bad
newbieDA: I am happy
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› how far down the road did they kick the can this time? At this rate, one law voted on per week,..... guess they are pacing themselves. Not wanting to overexert themselves
newbieDA: it needed to be done now, the Islamic Banking Law that is
chattels: There is no requirement of a third reading before a vote. A third reading may be incidental to or proceed a vote. There is a four day wait following the second and required reading and before a scheduled vote in my reading / observations.
newbieDA: they are setting up the banking system at least, its all good
newbieDA: ‹@Lauren305› I feel this needs to be done before the Investment Law
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› yes, it was one of the 6 vital laws we were looking for. 5 more to go.. What's left? #1 Investment, #2 National Guard, #3HCL, what else?
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 1h1 hour ago Following Lavrov claims, #Iraq Kurds deny they're participating in shared intelligence centre w/ Syria, Iran, Russia http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1JIwEcx
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› I know, you know what else... you had a tally sheet going, showing the progress made. with dates and all.
newbieDA: there are two types of laws to me, Investment and then Reconciliation Laws
newbieDA: *** Important Investment Laws *** Investment Law - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Revenue Law - 2nd Reading Complete National Card Law - 2nd Reading Complete Financial Deposits Protection Act CBI law Banking Law
newbieDA: *** National Reconciliation Plan & Reform Laws *** National Guard - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Civil Service Law - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Court Act Justice and Accountability Law Amnesty Law - 1st Reading Complete Erbil Agreement OIL & GAS (HCL) Article 140
chattels: parliament votes to approve the trade cooperation between Iraq and Kuwait Agreement http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1L12PEU
newbieDA: ya I also have the Accomplishments list going
Lauren305: judiciary and federal court law? amnesty law? those complete the 5 remaining laws... of dire importance, or so we've been told
chattels: Parliament holds its vote on the agreement and scientific cooperation between Iraq and France http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSi
newbieDA: I see the Investment Laws being done in time, the Reconciliation Laws are so up in the air
newbieDA: the Federal Court Law would probably need to happen first
newbieDA: that may start a chain reaction with reforms and reconciliation
chattels: Even clerics are joining Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units After Mosul fell to the Islamic State (IS) on June 10, 2014, and the latter continued its advance toward Baghdad, Iraq’s Shiite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued a statement June 13, calling on all Iraqis to join the front in support of the Iraqi armed forces. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12PF4
chattels: The Popular Mobilization Units are ideologically and religiously motivated in their fight against IS, which is considered to be key in their success when compared to the Iraqi army that withdrew — without really fighting — from Mosul, Ramadi and other regions, as a result of its lack of a strong military doctrine.
In that context, the presence of clerics in the ranks of the Popular Mobilization Units gained importance, as they provided spiritual and ideological support to the combatants among them. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSq
chattels: When asked who those clerics are religiously affiliated with, Rabihi told Al-Monitor, “Most volunteer clerics view Sistani as their supreme authority and obey the latter’s orders; while others, in groups allied with Iran — such as the Badr Organization and Hezbollah Battalions — pledge allegiance to Iranian Supreme Leader [Ayatollah] Ali Khamenei.” Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12Okl
chattels: Despite the positive attributes embodied by the combatant clerics, there are negative aspects to the sectarian dimension of their presence on the ground, which gives a general impression that the forces engaged in fighting against IS are solely Shiites opposed to Sunni militants.
But this stereotypical view is neither accurate nor objective; there are Sunni forces that fight with the Iraqi army, in addition to the Sunni clans' special units that are part of the Popular Mobilization Units. In that context, IS is but a very small minority in the larger Sunni constituency, mainly comprised of civilians harmed by IS’ invasion of their lands, who yearn for the liberation of those lands by the Iraqi army. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSs
chattels: It is evident that the phenomenon of having clerics on the front lines is a double-edged sword. While it can help improve the conduct of combatants, if left without proper supervision, it may mutate into a new factor that further inflames sectarian tensions. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12Okp
chattels: Peshmerga and other residents of Iraqi Kurdistan are fleeing the region because of frustrations with the government, corruption and the declining standard of living. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhB4X
chattels: Youth unemployment stands at 18% in Iraq, with nearly 50% of the population under 19 years of age. The rate is even higher among those with higher education. This poses a serious challenge for the governments in Baghdad and Erbil, and poverty has become a major issue. Seventy-five percent of respondents in a UN survey identified reducing poverty as the “most pressing need.” Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12PVs
chattels: (IraqiNews.com) Baghdad – High Commissioner for Human Rights announced on Thursday, that more than 21 thousand Iraqis were either killed or wounded in the violence and terrorism that hit the country since the beginning of 2015 until now, considering those operations as “genocide systematic crimes,” calling for the referral of ISIS to the International Criminal Court.
Commission member Fadel Ghraoui said in a statement received by IraqiNews.com, “there is a remarkable rise in the number of ISIS operations against the Iraqi people,” pointing out that “in 2014, High Commissioner for Human Rights have documented the number of victims of terrorist attacks, considering it as the bloodiest year.”
chattels: http://ift.tt/1gmvlbZ...
http://ift.tt/1LXhB4Z
chattels: There were approximately 12,000 gun related deaths in the U.S.A. last year. I could not find statistics on the number of wounded. We are a nation of almost 320 million. Iraq is about 33 million.
Anyone who tells you that the violence in America is greater than Iraq and or that Iraq is safer, well, that it bovine scatology. My research could be wrong and if anyone has statistics otherwise then I will be pleased to see it. http://ift.tt/vK1U4j... and
http://ift.tt/1L12OkA
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LXhBlj...
http://ift.tt/1jBtqTe
newbieDA: hmm
Donnie: ‹@newbieDA› yup
Donnie: happens frequently
Donnie: usually this time of day cause it's in the middle of the night in Iraq. most likely for maintenance. IMO of course
newbieDA: its been pretty good to me, like 3rd time
newbieDA: ‹@Donnie› I agree, just maintenance, I am not alarmed
Tootsie: ‹@newbieDA› agreed, 2 readings, 3rd meeting probably just reading prior to the VOTE . maybe just the title, or soch
Tootsie: such,
Tootsie: 3rd is always vote ~ semantics
Tootsie: later gaters ~~ nada much ongoing , so think will have a bubbly and watch TV ,
newbieDA: ‹@Tootsie› ty sorry I missed you =(
newbieDA: News & Announcements Tender No. (2015/7) 09/30/2015
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› ‹@newbieDA› ‹@newbieDA› hello. good to see you... Do you know what laws were voted/approved today? I've missed seeing that posted today
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› read history. Great observations, as always. Than you
newbieDA: most important is the Islamic Banking Law, it passed
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› wow, 1 out of the 5 or 6 said to be vital?
newbieDA: ‹@Lauren305› its still not bad
newbieDA: I am happy
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› how far down the road did they kick the can this time? At this rate, one law voted on per week,..... guess they are pacing themselves. Not wanting to overexert themselves
newbieDA: it needed to be done now, the Islamic Banking Law that is
chattels: There is no requirement of a third reading before a vote. A third reading may be incidental to or proceed a vote. There is a four day wait following the second and required reading and before a scheduled vote in my reading / observations.
newbieDA: they are setting up the banking system at least, its all good
newbieDA: ‹@Lauren305› I feel this needs to be done before the Investment Law
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› yes, it was one of the 6 vital laws we were looking for. 5 more to go.. What's left? #1 Investment, #2 National Guard, #3HCL, what else?
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 1h1 hour ago Following Lavrov claims, #Iraq Kurds deny they're participating in shared intelligence centre w/ Syria, Iran, Russia http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk... …
http://ift.tt/1JIwEcx
Lauren305: ‹@newbieDA› I know, you know what else... you had a tally sheet going, showing the progress made. with dates and all.
newbieDA: there are two types of laws to me, Investment and then Reconciliation Laws
newbieDA: *** Important Investment Laws *** Investment Law - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Revenue Law - 2nd Reading Complete National Card Law - 2nd Reading Complete Financial Deposits Protection Act CBI law Banking Law
newbieDA: *** National Reconciliation Plan & Reform Laws *** National Guard - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Civil Service Law - 2nd Reading Complete Federal Court Act Justice and Accountability Law Amnesty Law - 1st Reading Complete Erbil Agreement OIL & GAS (HCL) Article 140
chattels: parliament votes to approve the trade cooperation between Iraq and Kuwait Agreement http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1L12PEU
newbieDA: ya I also have the Accomplishments list going
Lauren305: judiciary and federal court law? amnesty law? those complete the 5 remaining laws... of dire importance, or so we've been told
chattels: Parliament holds its vote on the agreement and scientific cooperation between Iraq and France http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSi
newbieDA: I see the Investment Laws being done in time, the Reconciliation Laws are so up in the air
newbieDA: the Federal Court Law would probably need to happen first
newbieDA: that may start a chain reaction with reforms and reconciliation
chattels: Even clerics are joining Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units After Mosul fell to the Islamic State (IS) on June 10, 2014, and the latter continued its advance toward Baghdad, Iraq’s Shiite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued a statement June 13, calling on all Iraqis to join the front in support of the Iraqi armed forces. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12PF4
chattels: The Popular Mobilization Units are ideologically and religiously motivated in their fight against IS, which is considered to be key in their success when compared to the Iraqi army that withdrew — without really fighting — from Mosul, Ramadi and other regions, as a result of its lack of a strong military doctrine.
In that context, the presence of clerics in the ranks of the Popular Mobilization Units gained importance, as they provided spiritual and ideological support to the combatants among them. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSq
chattels: When asked who those clerics are religiously affiliated with, Rabihi told Al-Monitor, “Most volunteer clerics view Sistani as their supreme authority and obey the latter’s orders; while others, in groups allied with Iran — such as the Badr Organization and Hezbollah Battalions — pledge allegiance to Iranian Supreme Leader [Ayatollah] Ali Khamenei.” Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12Okl
chattels: Despite the positive attributes embodied by the combatant clerics, there are negative aspects to the sectarian dimension of their presence on the ground, which gives a general impression that the forces engaged in fighting against IS are solely Shiites opposed to Sunni militants.
But this stereotypical view is neither accurate nor objective; there are Sunni forces that fight with the Iraqi army, in addition to the Sunni clans' special units that are part of the Popular Mobilization Units. In that context, IS is but a very small minority in the larger Sunni constituency, mainly comprised of civilians harmed by IS’ invasion of their lands, who yearn for the liberation of those lands by the Iraqi army. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhBSs
chattels: It is evident that the phenomenon of having clerics on the front lines is a double-edged sword. While it can help improve the conduct of combatants, if left without proper supervision, it may mutate into a new factor that further inflames sectarian tensions. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12Okp
chattels: Peshmerga and other residents of Iraqi Kurdistan are fleeing the region because of frustrations with the government, corruption and the declining standard of living. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1LXhB4X
chattels: Youth unemployment stands at 18% in Iraq, with nearly 50% of the population under 19 years of age. The rate is even higher among those with higher education. This poses a serious challenge for the governments in Baghdad and Erbil, and poverty has become a major issue. Seventy-five percent of respondents in a UN survey identified reducing poverty as the “most pressing need.” Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1L12PVs
chattels: (IraqiNews.com) Baghdad – High Commissioner for Human Rights announced on Thursday, that more than 21 thousand Iraqis were either killed or wounded in the violence and terrorism that hit the country since the beginning of 2015 until now, considering those operations as “genocide systematic crimes,” calling for the referral of ISIS to the International Criminal Court.
Commission member Fadel Ghraoui said in a statement received by IraqiNews.com, “there is a remarkable rise in the number of ISIS operations against the Iraqi people,” pointing out that “in 2014, High Commissioner for Human Rights have documented the number of victims of terrorist attacks, considering it as the bloodiest year.”
chattels: http://ift.tt/1gmvlbZ...
http://ift.tt/1LXhB4Z
chattels: There were approximately 12,000 gun related deaths in the U.S.A. last year. I could not find statistics on the number of wounded. We are a nation of almost 320 million. Iraq is about 33 million.
Anyone who tells you that the violence in America is greater than Iraq and or that Iraq is safer, well, that it bovine scatology. My research could be wrong and if anyone has statistics otherwise then I will be pleased to see it. http://ift.tt/vK1U4j... and
http://ift.tt/1L12OkA
chattels: http://ift.tt/1LXhBlj...
http://ift.tt/1jBtqTe
chattels: Charlie Rose interview this evening on Russian involvement in Syria was interesting.
chattels: Parliament prepares to pass the laws before adoption of the budget: revive the economy and treasury Since 01.10.2015 Special scales News A member of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh applicable, on Thursday, said his committee is working to amend some laws to be passed before the adoption of the federal budget for next year, indicating that those laws will contribute to the saving of the state new financial resources and revive the Iraqi economy.
The force's / scales News / "The parliamentary Finance Committee in the process of amending some important laws sent by the government to the House of Representatives within the current session to be passed before the arrival of the draft federal budget law for 2016 to parliament,"
noting that "the most important of these laws is the establishment of Islamic banks and modify and civil service income tax and insurance on personal responsibility.
" He said a member of the parliamentary finance committee that "these laws will provide new revenue for the state treasury and regulates the pillars of state-building, management and reduce costs and organizing promotion and bonuses mechanisms," stressing that "these laws some of which will be presented to a vote next week, and some of them will be presented the following week to be passed."
chattels: http://ift.tt/1FBs1il... LINK
chattels: The budget is anticipated as early as October 10
chattels: Parliament prepares to pass the laws before adoption of the budget: revive the economy and treasury Since 01.10.2015 Special scales News A member of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh applicable, on Thursday, said his committee is working to amend some laws to be passed before the adoption of the federal budget for next year, indicating that those laws will contribute to the saving of the state new financial resources and revive the Iraqi economy.
The force's / scales News / "The parliamentary Finance Committee in the process of amending some important laws sent by the government to the House of Representatives within the current session to be passed before the arrival of the draft federal budget law for 2016 to parliament,"
noting that "the most important of these laws is the establishment of Islamic banks and modify and civil service income tax and insurance on personal responsibility.
" He said a member of the parliamentary finance committee that "these laws will provide new revenue for the state treasury and regulates the pillars of state-building, management and reduce costs and organizing promotion and bonuses mechanisms," stressing that "these laws some of which will be presented to a vote next week, and some of them will be presented the following week to be passed."
chattels: http://ift.tt/1FBs1il... LINK
chattels: The budget is anticipated as early as October 10
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