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PIF CALL (PIF & BACKDOC) Saturday Night -- 30 May 2015 @ 9:00 PM MST
PIF – I’ve got some good numbers and stuff that’s come in! In regards to the spreadsheet … and I said that it kind of blew me away that they went back into November.
Frosty posted the notes from the KTFA call on Monday night.
Tuesday night (after Bible Study on the KTFA call) … I had something I wanted to share … but there wasn’t enough time. I wanted to share with our forum what I wanted to say.
I thought (and Frank thought) that back in Oct/Nov of last year that this was activated and in motion – global monetary reform.
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PIF CALL (PIF & BACKDOC) Saturday Night -- 30 May 2015 @ 9:00 PM MST
PIF – I’ve got some good numbers and stuff that’s come in! In regards to the spreadsheet … and I said that it kind of blew me away that they went back into November.
Frosty posted the notes from the KTFA call on Monday night.
Tuesday night (after Bible Study on the KTFA call) … I had something I wanted to share … but there wasn’t enough time. I wanted to share with our forum what I wanted to say.
I thought (and Frank thought) that back in Oct/Nov of last year that this was activated and in motion – global monetary reform.
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I’ve always stuck to Basel III compliance, bonds, liquidity, value and the CBI in what we’re exchange into … and in the end the truth will come out. Some of it came out today. Some of it I can see crystal clear … folks like WalkingStick … they are finding it.
I want to read to you guys WHAT they are finding … because I need you guys to help the others in knowing that no one is going to be left behind. We’ll just see how things play out.
For example … Greece taking a deal or not taking a deal … Frosty’s post of the “ACCIDENT” was a perfect example.
You see … they were told to get the deal done by the last day of May. They would have till the last day of the month of May to pay … but if they didn’t … it would cause problems – it would ACCIDENTALLY look bad.
My thought process is … ok … we’ve got all of this debt globally … and if we’re going to reset (and dump any of this debt) … or revalue the assets to true value and the debt to true value … commodities to true value. People are missing the gold thing.
You can’t revalue gold unless you are going to revalue everything else. It doesn’t work that way … and yet the economists and the people in the markets (traders) in the conspiracy world … and we all live in the conspiracy world because that “side” gains knowledge … regardless of whether or not you like it or not.
You are gaining knowledge … because it give you something to compare against.
BACKDOC – the dollar … if you altered it … and say the dollar crashed … you are saying that all of the trade globally is going to collapse. That’s not rational.
So … the reason why we’re doing this call tonight … is because It would probably take us (PIF, BackDoc, Frosty) 12-15 hours to type this up and try to get this information out. Many others help … and I appreciate you jumping in to help with this.
Let’s look at some prices today … of OIL, GOLD and SILVER.
If you look at the HIGH & LOW for Gold, Silver and Oil … you’ll see that realistically … silver and gold match up … (year current and the high) … but OIL … OOPS! That’s a different story. That doesn’t match up! Humm. ;)
Looking at the DOW … the S&P … and the NASDAQ
These are the details that make up the monetary policy.
We talked about QE. You need a period of time to reset everything.
You can’t do it all in one day … you’d have to do it based on a certain value.
Think about it … prices adjust up and down (commodities/products/resources) a little at a time.
(Example: you wouldn’t see gas at $4.00 a gallon on Monday … and $5.00 on Tuesday)
They are revaluing quite a bit of commodities/products/resources … food … the basics … raw materials.
The dollar is sitting in that basket. In that basket sits a certain amount of currencies.
Statistics in the banking world can be manipulated. The GDP is not real. I don’t use it … I don’t play that game.
When we do our first “get-together” – I will show you what I do. I’M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO … I’m just showing you what I do and you’ll see … and probably say “holy cow” … and you’ll have a better understanding how things work. The numbers that the FED uses change … even after the fact.
BACKDOCK – so their numbers are easy to manipulate.
Do you think the CBI could do the same thing?
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a proven fact. I said that the numbers were wrong … I knew they were wrong because I understood the formulas … and they changed them … even back to November. That’s why I thought at the end of last year … they were ready to go.
When I viewed the math … I really expected this to go back in November. I was watching the market.
There were a handful of people that were watching with me … watching 300 to 500 point swings in the market within 10 minutes … up 200 … down 300 … a 500 point swings happened.
There were days when there was 10 minutes left and it didn’t finish like we thought. It was doing what it was supposed to do. We just didn’t know how much “fixing” they needed to fix.
So we’ve gotten a feel of how the monetary reform policy is working globally.
There is an event coming … just like JL says … if you want to call it an “ACCIDENT” … it doesn’t really have to happen … but we’re going to see an accident happen.
Monetary wise they want the “ACCIDENT” to happen … but they don’t want anyone to take the blame for it. ;) They want the effect … but they don’t want the damage pinned on anyone.
So … let’s look at a “possibility” of the G&G … as a group of members … we’ve said to watch that … because it could happen at any time. What are we watching
I think Frosty said it best … we’re looking for an “ACCIDENT”
I thought the Swiss de-pegging would have done it … but that didn’t fill that role.
If you took 25 people in our forum … and they all took out a loan from ABC bank … and we all owe ABC bank billions EACH … what happens if someone couldn’t afford to repay it?
Who gets to collect? What if you can’t collect it? No resources … total refusal.
So the bank goes back to their board … because someone has to pay the price.
So … can things be redone so that no one takes the hit?
Don’t you think they would have done that by now … if they could?
BACKDOC - Of course.
PIF -- IMO – they are taking CONFIDENCE away from people.
If ABC wasn’t like your typical bank … that had 25 borrowers (countries) … but it’s more like a territory (Europe) … so if the Euro died out … (and it could fail – it’s new … it hasn’t’ been around 100 year) …
if other countries in the wings … waiting to put their currencies into play … well … all of the sudden … there is no one to blame. No government oversight.
So if one country bails … (let’s say I bailed on them) … and BackDoc you get stuck with 10% of the bill … let’s say you absorb a 10% hit because I can’t (or won’t) pay … are you going to be the last one of us standing with the proverbial bag?
BACKDOC – NO … it would have a cascade effect!
PIF – Do you want to be the last one out of a burning house?
So … wouldn’t you be concerned it another country said they might get out … or that they say they see or smell smoke?
Would that cause panic?
BACKDOC – that’s how markets work to some extent. Based on confidence and fear. Fear and greed motivates people. This is like a game of poker … who’s going to blink first? Somebody’s going to blink.
I want to read to you guys WHAT they are finding … because I need you guys to help the others in knowing that no one is going to be left behind. We’ll just see how things play out.
For example … Greece taking a deal or not taking a deal … Frosty’s post of the “ACCIDENT” was a perfect example.
You see … they were told to get the deal done by the last day of May. They would have till the last day of the month of May to pay … but if they didn’t … it would cause problems – it would ACCIDENTALLY look bad.
My thought process is … ok … we’ve got all of this debt globally … and if we’re going to reset (and dump any of this debt) … or revalue the assets to true value and the debt to true value … commodities to true value. People are missing the gold thing.
You can’t revalue gold unless you are going to revalue everything else. It doesn’t work that way … and yet the economists and the people in the markets (traders) in the conspiracy world … and we all live in the conspiracy world because that “side” gains knowledge … regardless of whether or not you like it or not.
You are gaining knowledge … because it give you something to compare against.
BACKDOC – the dollar … if you altered it … and say the dollar crashed … you are saying that all of the trade globally is going to collapse. That’s not rational.
So … the reason why we’re doing this call tonight … is because It would probably take us (PIF, BackDoc, Frosty) 12-15 hours to type this up and try to get this information out. Many others help … and I appreciate you jumping in to help with this.
Let’s look at some prices today … of OIL, GOLD and SILVER.
If you look at the HIGH & LOW for Gold, Silver and Oil … you’ll see that realistically … silver and gold match up … (year current and the high) … but OIL … OOPS! That’s a different story. That doesn’t match up! Humm. ;)
Looking at the DOW … the S&P … and the NASDAQ
These are the details that make up the monetary policy.
We talked about QE. You need a period of time to reset everything.
You can’t do it all in one day … you’d have to do it based on a certain value.
Think about it … prices adjust up and down (commodities/products/resources) a little at a time.
(Example: you wouldn’t see gas at $4.00 a gallon on Monday … and $5.00 on Tuesday)
They are revaluing quite a bit of commodities/products/resources … food … the basics … raw materials.
The dollar is sitting in that basket. In that basket sits a certain amount of currencies.
Statistics in the banking world can be manipulated. The GDP is not real. I don’t use it … I don’t play that game.
When we do our first “get-together” – I will show you what I do. I’M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO … I’m just showing you what I do and you’ll see … and probably say “holy cow” … and you’ll have a better understanding how things work. The numbers that the FED uses change … even after the fact.
BACKDOCK – so their numbers are easy to manipulate.
Do you think the CBI could do the same thing?
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a proven fact. I said that the numbers were wrong … I knew they were wrong because I understood the formulas … and they changed them … even back to November. That’s why I thought at the end of last year … they were ready to go.
When I viewed the math … I really expected this to go back in November. I was watching the market.
There were a handful of people that were watching with me … watching 300 to 500 point swings in the market within 10 minutes … up 200 … down 300 … a 500 point swings happened.
There were days when there was 10 minutes left and it didn’t finish like we thought. It was doing what it was supposed to do. We just didn’t know how much “fixing” they needed to fix.
So we’ve gotten a feel of how the monetary reform policy is working globally.
There is an event coming … just like JL says … if you want to call it an “ACCIDENT” … it doesn’t really have to happen … but we’re going to see an accident happen.
Monetary wise they want the “ACCIDENT” to happen … but they don’t want anyone to take the blame for it. ;) They want the effect … but they don’t want the damage pinned on anyone.
So … let’s look at a “possibility” of the G&G … as a group of members … we’ve said to watch that … because it could happen at any time. What are we watching
I think Frosty said it best … we’re looking for an “ACCIDENT”
I thought the Swiss de-pegging would have done it … but that didn’t fill that role.
If you took 25 people in our forum … and they all took out a loan from ABC bank … and we all owe ABC bank billions EACH … what happens if someone couldn’t afford to repay it?
Who gets to collect? What if you can’t collect it? No resources … total refusal.
So the bank goes back to their board … because someone has to pay the price.
So … can things be redone so that no one takes the hit?
Don’t you think they would have done that by now … if they could?
BACKDOC - Of course.
PIF -- IMO – they are taking CONFIDENCE away from people.
If ABC wasn’t like your typical bank … that had 25 borrowers (countries) … but it’s more like a territory (Europe) … so if the Euro died out … (and it could fail – it’s new … it hasn’t’ been around 100 year) …
if other countries in the wings … waiting to put their currencies into play … well … all of the sudden … there is no one to blame. No government oversight.
So if one country bails … (let’s say I bailed on them) … and BackDoc you get stuck with 10% of the bill … let’s say you absorb a 10% hit because I can’t (or won’t) pay … are you going to be the last one of us standing with the proverbial bag?
BACKDOC – NO … it would have a cascade effect!
PIF – Do you want to be the last one out of a burning house?
So … wouldn’t you be concerned it another country said they might get out … or that they say they see or smell smoke?
Would that cause panic?
BACKDOC – that’s how markets work to some extent. Based on confidence and fear. Fear and greed motivates people. This is like a game of poker … who’s going to blink first? Somebody’s going to blink.
PIF – let’s say there is a possibility that all of these countries become their own currencies now. So they all go their separate way. It’s not a country … just a bunch of bad … that no one has responsibility for.
So … what happens to just a bunch of BAD DEBT that these countries held in the Euro?
Instead of just 20 some odd countries … they really spread it all out … swaps … some QE, etc.
What if all of the countries spread-out their risk … (like reinsurance)
So when everyone comes back on BASEL III compliant …
I love the new paint job they’re giving this. This all started back in the 60’s. The engine still works good … but they need a new paint job. No matter what regional deal you have … if you look at the BRICS and the AIIB … those are regional bank deals. That’s crystal clear.
We know that China and the US is never going to stop trading with each other. And they don’t need anybody else in the middle of their trade.
China needs some respect … but not at the expense of the USD. That would hurt them in trade.
As much as some people think that things are going to be gloom and doom ... that’s not the way it’s going to be – it’s going to be balanced.
If it hurts us … it hurts everybody. Competition is good.
How much are they going to buy from Vietnam … or Malaysia … Korea … Indonesia?
They will have to start being honest with their currency … which is why they wanted to be added.
JL told us back they that they weren’t ready … but they are now!
Keep in mind everyone … I’ve giving you the 24-48 hour preemptive strike mode. Ok?
That’s another reason why we’re doing this call … because I don’t want to have to answer [the same questions] anyone else … this entire week. You’ve all been told. ;)
This is the explanation … it doesn’t’ matter how long it takes for this to play out … you have the CONFIDENCE that you need to understand what’s going on.
I’ve seen WS post. Please keep in mind … it’s the information that matters … not who writes it up!
As long as it’s done in a way that is not slanted … I compliment everyone … all newshounds from the PIF forum and others!
Just sit back and watch this unfold … you won’t need to text me questions of WHEN, WHEN, WHEN or a play-by-play … just watch.
Focus on the key words.
November … I found that most of the market had RESET.
I wasn’t sure about oil … because that took until January … that’s my opinion.
Remember the end of last year … when [the news] was talking about currency wars, etc.? There is a little distortion in the stock market … those numbers are set … but not reduced.
They know where they are at … and what they have to do with it. So when the currency resets … and the prices reset … there is a formula to make it work so that it’s not a false number.
BACKDOC – so they’ll be re-priced in relation to each other. Correct?
PIF – correct. Things are priced … just like the currency itself. It is the value of it. A lot of big corporations … who’s stocks jumped through the roof because they’ve had access to FREE money. They’ve used that free money to acquire other companies. It’s a win-win for everyone.
You are hearing about QE with certain countries that are within a basket. But you’re not hearing about QE to anything else. They normally call that “aid” or “grants” or “support” or “humanitarian” – it’s happening.
The CBI is back-dating their data to November … I’m seeing changes in October … and it’s Saturday night … and tomorrow is the 31st … the last day of the month. ;) The numbers are going where we expected.
if AggieDad explained it … or you (BackDoc) it would be done in an excellent way.
In regards to Greece … if anyone threatens to leave … that’s not a good thing … especially now.
So … what happens to just a bunch of BAD DEBT that these countries held in the Euro?
Instead of just 20 some odd countries … they really spread it all out … swaps … some QE, etc.
What if all of the countries spread-out their risk … (like reinsurance)
So when everyone comes back on BASEL III compliant …
I love the new paint job they’re giving this. This all started back in the 60’s. The engine still works good … but they need a new paint job. No matter what regional deal you have … if you look at the BRICS and the AIIB … those are regional bank deals. That’s crystal clear.
We know that China and the US is never going to stop trading with each other. And they don’t need anybody else in the middle of their trade.
China needs some respect … but not at the expense of the USD. That would hurt them in trade.
As much as some people think that things are going to be gloom and doom ... that’s not the way it’s going to be – it’s going to be balanced.
If it hurts us … it hurts everybody. Competition is good.
How much are they going to buy from Vietnam … or Malaysia … Korea … Indonesia?
They will have to start being honest with their currency … which is why they wanted to be added.
JL told us back they that they weren’t ready … but they are now!
Keep in mind everyone … I’ve giving you the 24-48 hour preemptive strike mode. Ok?
That’s another reason why we’re doing this call … because I don’t want to have to answer [the same questions] anyone else … this entire week. You’ve all been told. ;)
This is the explanation … it doesn’t’ matter how long it takes for this to play out … you have the CONFIDENCE that you need to understand what’s going on.
I’ve seen WS post. Please keep in mind … it’s the information that matters … not who writes it up!
As long as it’s done in a way that is not slanted … I compliment everyone … all newshounds from the PIF forum and others!
Just sit back and watch this unfold … you won’t need to text me questions of WHEN, WHEN, WHEN or a play-by-play … just watch.
Focus on the key words.
November … I found that most of the market had RESET.
I wasn’t sure about oil … because that took until January … that’s my opinion.
Remember the end of last year … when [the news] was talking about currency wars, etc.? There is a little distortion in the stock market … those numbers are set … but not reduced.
They know where they are at … and what they have to do with it. So when the currency resets … and the prices reset … there is a formula to make it work so that it’s not a false number.
BACKDOC – so they’ll be re-priced in relation to each other. Correct?
PIF – correct. Things are priced … just like the currency itself. It is the value of it. A lot of big corporations … who’s stocks jumped through the roof because they’ve had access to FREE money. They’ve used that free money to acquire other companies. It’s a win-win for everyone.
You are hearing about QE with certain countries that are within a basket. But you’re not hearing about QE to anything else. They normally call that “aid” or “grants” or “support” or “humanitarian” – it’s happening.
The CBI is back-dating their data to November … I’m seeing changes in October … and it’s Saturday night … and tomorrow is the 31st … the last day of the month. ;) The numbers are going where we expected.
if AggieDad explained it … or you (BackDoc) it would be done in an excellent way.
In regards to Greece … if anyone threatens to leave … that’s not a good thing … especially now.
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