Post From Philosophy of Metrics By JC Collins 2-22-16
Reader Thoughts On “The Myth Of China Dumping Us Dollars
Muad'Grumps: Behold my Fedaykin CIGAs. It is deflation that drives gold!
Suberic: JC, What though if China purchases gold in the form of US dollars to act as a universal reserve. In terms of value, they are able to lower US fiat currency and at the same time strengthen their position in terms of a proxy backed currency of the Renmimbi?
They would be zero sum in terms of Yuan/Dollar and still flood the market with dollars to the point of hyperinflation of the dollar? The world in turn sees China in a position of strength while nearing breaking the buck.
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Reader Thoughts On “The Myth Of China Dumping Us Dollars
Muad'Grumps: Behold my Fedaykin CIGAs. It is deflation that drives gold!
Suberic: JC, What though if China purchases gold in the form of US dollars to act as a universal reserve. In terms of value, they are able to lower US fiat currency and at the same time strengthen their position in terms of a proxy backed currency of the Renmimbi?
They would be zero sum in terms of Yuan/Dollar and still flood the market with dollars to the point of hyperinflation of the dollar? The world in turn sees China in a position of strength while nearing breaking the buck.
~~~
JC Collins: China and the US, along with all other nations and institutions are aligned on rebalancing the international monetary system. This entails moving towards a multi-currency framework based on the dollar, renminbi, and euro. All measures and strategies are working towards that common goal.
The accumulation of gold by trade surplus countries, such as China, has always been the case. Outside of wild speculation surrounding gold and the intent of China, nothing would suggest that Beijing is going to implement a strategy which would see the dollar hyper-inflate.
It’s a constant struggle here on POM to separate fact from fiction. Most conclusions out there on gold and China do not take into consideration the published policies and mandates of the central banks and international monetary institutions.
Anyone suggesting that China is attempting to remove the dollar, or replace the dollar as the sole reserve currency, simply does not understand this dynamic and path forward. No nation wants the responsibility of having the sole reserve currency, which is why a multi-currency system is being developed.
Muad'Grumps: No, China has made no secret of its aim to control the pricing of gold. This is integral to its version of a multipolar reserve system.
Tony: Greeting JC; Speculation has it that in the up coming Shanghai G20 meeting there could be an agreement similar to the Plaza Accord from 1987 where currencies are devalued…
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From ZEOHEDGE: Why According To One Bank, Massive Central Bank Intervention Is Imminent
Any time the relative performance of global financials to US Treasuries has stumbled as far as it has, as shown in the chart below, it has meant one thing – a major central bank intervention was imminent.
At least that’s the interpretation of BofA’s Michael Hartnett, who shows that in order to provide the kick for the bounce in this all too important “deflationary leading indicator”, central banks engaged in major unorthodox easing episodes, whether QE1-3, or the ECB’s QE.
Why intervene now? Here are the problems according to Hartnett:
Problem 1: US economy in “bad Goldilocks”, i.e. US economy not hot/strong enough to lift global GDP & EPS; but not cold/bad enough to induce global coordinated response
Problem 2: global policy-maker rhetoric in recent days shows “coordinated innocence” not stimulus, all blaming global economy for weak domestic economies (“Overseas factors are to blame”…Japan PM Abe; “drag on U.S. economy from greater-than-expected-slowdown in China & other EM economies“…FOMC minutes; “increasing concerns about the prospects for the global economy”…ECB Draghi; “the change in China’s growth rate can be attributed in part to weak performance of the global economy”…PBoC)
Problem 2 is static, meant for media propaganda and jawboning; it can easily be removed once the global economy takes the next leg lower. Which incidentally would also resolve the gating factor of Problem 1 – as we have said for months, the Fed and its central bank peers need the political cover to launch more stimulus.
And in a reflexive world, where the “economy is the market”, this means just one thing – a big leg lower in stocks is the necessary and sufficient condition to once again push stocks higher, as policy failure is internalized, and global risk reprises from square 1.
This is Bank of America’s summary, warning that unless a major policy intervention is enacted, the market will then sell off to the next support level, below the 1,812 which has proven so stable since August.
Stabilization of “4C’s” (China, Commodities, Credit, Consumer) allowed SPX 1800 to hold/bounce to 1950-2000; weak policy stimulus in coming weeks could end rally/risk fresh declines to induce growth-boosting policy accord.
Here is a summary of the near-term events which stocks are betting on do not disappoint: G20 Shanghai (February 26-27); ECB (March 10), BoJ (March 15) & FOMC (March 16).
And as documented previously, the one main near-term event Hartnett is focusing on is the Shanghai meeting next weekend. Recall:
We remain sellers into strength in coming weeks/months of risk assets at least until a coordinated and aggressive global policy response (e.g. Shanghai Accord) begins to reverse the deterioration in global profit expectations (currently heading sharply south – Chart 1) and credit conditions.
In other words, Hartnett expects a “Shanghai Accord” to be unveiled next weekend, one where like the Plaza Accord three decades earlier, the Yuan will be massively depreciated, which ironically would halt all piecemeal Yuan devaluation on expectation of future devaluation (as it will have already happened), and reset global monetary policy stability if only for a few more months.
Said otherwise, if next weekend the G-20 disappoints and unveils nothing, the next big leg down in the selloff will have arrived.
How likely is such a major intervention? Keep an eye on the recently surging price of Bitcoin for the answer, and also Vancouver real estate, of course. Take Care Tony
Rodriguez Perez: I do no not understand one thing, JC: Who is Peoples Bank´s LENDER? Regards
JC Collins: The PBoC works under the same principle as other central banks, such as the Federal Reserve. It is forced to issue domestic currency in order to buy the large inflow of US dollars which make up its large trade surplus imbalance. In essence the PBoC is the lender, same as the Fed.
The difference with the Fed is that they issue the international reserve currency and export it to other central banks on reserve. This forces other central banks to issue domestic currency in order to purchase those dollars. It’s what I have always meant by saying that the US has exported its inflation. Does that help?
Dane: Press Release: IMF Executive Board Selects Christine Lagarde to Serve a Second Term as Managing Director
http://ift.tt/1KuZgOa
Curtis: What is the difference between wealth and debt? If wealth is defined as human time and labor then is debt ownership or sort of like a demand on wealth. I am also not understanding how a surplus could be as bad as a deficit. Is money debt? What’s the advantages of having a debt based money creation process?
Is then owning debt the power to direct wealth? In that sense is having a surplus or deficit the same thing?
JC Collins: Curtis, you are correct about debt being a demand on wealth, or human time and labor. The “benefit” of the debt based system is for the purpose of funding growth. The industrial revolution only began after the first central banks moved towards the fiat based system.
Before that time wealth was accumulated and hoarded by a minority, as today, but there was little liquidity left to fund growth through innovation and development. The debt based system has provided us the modern world, but everything comes with a cost. We need to find something better in future years.
China’s surplus of US dollars were purchased by the PBoC issuing domestic currency. All money is created through the issuance of debt. This has put huge credit pressures on the national economy of China. They used this expansion of domestic credit to fund the massive growth over the last 10 to 15 years.
The unwinding of this credit market, being in essence USD created liquidity, is what is causing problems in China today.
By exporting so much and using dollars on reserve to balance those trades, the domestic currency supply had to expand in a proportion consummate with the exchange rate between the USD and RMB.
A surplus position is better than a deficit position, but the money used to balance those trades has to be created through the issuance of debt. When the currency of one country is used on reserve to balance these trades the imbalances become systemic. Does this make more sense?
Curtis: So theoretically issuance of debt is the sovereignty as having a demand on human time and labor. Hence there are many sovereign nations all having different demands on finite wealth. The purpose of the issuance of debt besides control on the flow of wealth is to increase it.
Reserve accumulation reflects a lack of capability to direct wealth by issuance of debt, is this correct?
I now understand what you mean when you say that the system of debt issuance isn’t gonna go anywhere any time soon
Muad'Grumps: A 2012 video. Raoul Pal's -- The End Game.wmv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=UcuPdFxF0nc
Tony: Greetings Grumps;
Here’s an excerpt of his lengthy interview in which he calls for a 50% devaluation of the Chinese Renminbi “” OR”” total collapse of their system..
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“I think the most likely outcome, in the next recession one of the big uglies comes out.
I don’t know which one it’s going it be – it’s a race between China and a 50% deval versus a total collapse internally of their economy because of their credit bubble; whether it’s Japan which we have all been waiting for and it hasn’t happened but maybe it happens;
or maybe it’s the European banking sector forcing the hand of everybody else, and suddenly all the collateral in the system is worthless again because the European government bonds are worthless again;
whether it’s just the loss of central bank control over the monetary system; whether it’s the dollar wildly overshooting and then maybe some debt jubilee and debt forgiveness that needs to happen.
There’s a whole host of things, it’s almost impossible to know which one it is but what we need to care about is not trying to spot the one it’s about is there going to be a domino effect.”
============
The way he’s calling it; Heads you lose, Tails you lose… Because the game we’re playing is actually Dominos Take Care Tony
The accumulation of gold by trade surplus countries, such as China, has always been the case. Outside of wild speculation surrounding gold and the intent of China, nothing would suggest that Beijing is going to implement a strategy which would see the dollar hyper-inflate.
It’s a constant struggle here on POM to separate fact from fiction. Most conclusions out there on gold and China do not take into consideration the published policies and mandates of the central banks and international monetary institutions.
Anyone suggesting that China is attempting to remove the dollar, or replace the dollar as the sole reserve currency, simply does not understand this dynamic and path forward. No nation wants the responsibility of having the sole reserve currency, which is why a multi-currency system is being developed.
Muad'Grumps: No, China has made no secret of its aim to control the pricing of gold. This is integral to its version of a multipolar reserve system.
Tony: Greeting JC; Speculation has it that in the up coming Shanghai G20 meeting there could be an agreement similar to the Plaza Accord from 1987 where currencies are devalued…
=========
From ZEOHEDGE: Why According To One Bank, Massive Central Bank Intervention Is Imminent
Any time the relative performance of global financials to US Treasuries has stumbled as far as it has, as shown in the chart below, it has meant one thing – a major central bank intervention was imminent.
At least that’s the interpretation of BofA’s Michael Hartnett, who shows that in order to provide the kick for the bounce in this all too important “deflationary leading indicator”, central banks engaged in major unorthodox easing episodes, whether QE1-3, or the ECB’s QE.
Why intervene now? Here are the problems according to Hartnett:
Problem 1: US economy in “bad Goldilocks”, i.e. US economy not hot/strong enough to lift global GDP & EPS; but not cold/bad enough to induce global coordinated response
Problem 2: global policy-maker rhetoric in recent days shows “coordinated innocence” not stimulus, all blaming global economy for weak domestic economies (“Overseas factors are to blame”…Japan PM Abe; “drag on U.S. economy from greater-than-expected-slowdown in China & other EM economies“…FOMC minutes; “increasing concerns about the prospects for the global economy”…ECB Draghi; “the change in China’s growth rate can be attributed in part to weak performance of the global economy”…PBoC)
Problem 2 is static, meant for media propaganda and jawboning; it can easily be removed once the global economy takes the next leg lower. Which incidentally would also resolve the gating factor of Problem 1 – as we have said for months, the Fed and its central bank peers need the political cover to launch more stimulus.
And in a reflexive world, where the “economy is the market”, this means just one thing – a big leg lower in stocks is the necessary and sufficient condition to once again push stocks higher, as policy failure is internalized, and global risk reprises from square 1.
This is Bank of America’s summary, warning that unless a major policy intervention is enacted, the market will then sell off to the next support level, below the 1,812 which has proven so stable since August.
Stabilization of “4C’s” (China, Commodities, Credit, Consumer) allowed SPX 1800 to hold/bounce to 1950-2000; weak policy stimulus in coming weeks could end rally/risk fresh declines to induce growth-boosting policy accord.
Here is a summary of the near-term events which stocks are betting on do not disappoint: G20 Shanghai (February 26-27); ECB (March 10), BoJ (March 15) & FOMC (March 16).
And as documented previously, the one main near-term event Hartnett is focusing on is the Shanghai meeting next weekend. Recall:
We remain sellers into strength in coming weeks/months of risk assets at least until a coordinated and aggressive global policy response (e.g. Shanghai Accord) begins to reverse the deterioration in global profit expectations (currently heading sharply south – Chart 1) and credit conditions.
In other words, Hartnett expects a “Shanghai Accord” to be unveiled next weekend, one where like the Plaza Accord three decades earlier, the Yuan will be massively depreciated, which ironically would halt all piecemeal Yuan devaluation on expectation of future devaluation (as it will have already happened), and reset global monetary policy stability if only for a few more months.
Said otherwise, if next weekend the G-20 disappoints and unveils nothing, the next big leg down in the selloff will have arrived.
How likely is such a major intervention? Keep an eye on the recently surging price of Bitcoin for the answer, and also Vancouver real estate, of course. Take Care Tony
Rodriguez Perez: I do no not understand one thing, JC: Who is Peoples Bank´s LENDER? Regards
JC Collins: The PBoC works under the same principle as other central banks, such as the Federal Reserve. It is forced to issue domestic currency in order to buy the large inflow of US dollars which make up its large trade surplus imbalance. In essence the PBoC is the lender, same as the Fed.
The difference with the Fed is that they issue the international reserve currency and export it to other central banks on reserve. This forces other central banks to issue domestic currency in order to purchase those dollars. It’s what I have always meant by saying that the US has exported its inflation. Does that help?
Dane: Press Release: IMF Executive Board Selects Christine Lagarde to Serve a Second Term as Managing Director
http://ift.tt/1KuZgOa
Curtis: What is the difference between wealth and debt? If wealth is defined as human time and labor then is debt ownership or sort of like a demand on wealth. I am also not understanding how a surplus could be as bad as a deficit. Is money debt? What’s the advantages of having a debt based money creation process?
Is then owning debt the power to direct wealth? In that sense is having a surplus or deficit the same thing?
JC Collins: Curtis, you are correct about debt being a demand on wealth, or human time and labor. The “benefit” of the debt based system is for the purpose of funding growth. The industrial revolution only began after the first central banks moved towards the fiat based system.
Before that time wealth was accumulated and hoarded by a minority, as today, but there was little liquidity left to fund growth through innovation and development. The debt based system has provided us the modern world, but everything comes with a cost. We need to find something better in future years.
China’s surplus of US dollars were purchased by the PBoC issuing domestic currency. All money is created through the issuance of debt. This has put huge credit pressures on the national economy of China. They used this expansion of domestic credit to fund the massive growth over the last 10 to 15 years.
The unwinding of this credit market, being in essence USD created liquidity, is what is causing problems in China today.
By exporting so much and using dollars on reserve to balance those trades, the domestic currency supply had to expand in a proportion consummate with the exchange rate between the USD and RMB.
A surplus position is better than a deficit position, but the money used to balance those trades has to be created through the issuance of debt. When the currency of one country is used on reserve to balance these trades the imbalances become systemic. Does this make more sense?
Curtis: So theoretically issuance of debt is the sovereignty as having a demand on human time and labor. Hence there are many sovereign nations all having different demands on finite wealth. The purpose of the issuance of debt besides control on the flow of wealth is to increase it.
Reserve accumulation reflects a lack of capability to direct wealth by issuance of debt, is this correct?
I now understand what you mean when you say that the system of debt issuance isn’t gonna go anywhere any time soon
Muad'Grumps: A 2012 video. Raoul Pal's -- The End Game.wmv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=UcuPdFxF0nc
Tony: Greetings Grumps;
Here’s an excerpt of his lengthy interview in which he calls for a 50% devaluation of the Chinese Renminbi “” OR”” total collapse of their system..
==============
“I think the most likely outcome, in the next recession one of the big uglies comes out.
I don’t know which one it’s going it be – it’s a race between China and a 50% deval versus a total collapse internally of their economy because of their credit bubble; whether it’s Japan which we have all been waiting for and it hasn’t happened but maybe it happens;
or maybe it’s the European banking sector forcing the hand of everybody else, and suddenly all the collateral in the system is worthless again because the European government bonds are worthless again;
whether it’s just the loss of central bank control over the monetary system; whether it’s the dollar wildly overshooting and then maybe some debt jubilee and debt forgiveness that needs to happen.
There’s a whole host of things, it’s almost impossible to know which one it is but what we need to care about is not trying to spot the one it’s about is there going to be a domino effect.”
============
The way he’s calling it; Heads you lose, Tails you lose… Because the game we’re playing is actually Dominos Take Care Tony
Muad'Grumps: Here’s an interesting story:
“Xiamen Municipal Government and the Shanghai Gold Exchange in Shanghai recently signed a memorandum of cooperation. Xiamen Mayor Bae Jin Jia, deputy general manager of Shanghai Gold Exchange Song Yuqin on behalf of the two sides signed a memorandum of understanding.
Standing Committee of Fujian Provincial Committee, Party Secretary Wang Meng Hui Xiamen at the signing ceremony that history is an important node in the Xiamen Maritime Silk Road, has in recent years Taiwan has approved a comprehensive reform pilot area and China (Fujian) test area three free trade one of a Area.
Shanghai Gold Exchange is putting the “all the way along the” gold strategy, Xiamen is committed to creating a 21st Century Maritime Silk Road and Taiwan exchanges and cooperation between the two strategic fulcrum city.
The two sides will promote cooperation in various financial elements gathered in Xiamen, promote cross-strait cooperation in the depth of the gold market, gold market to enhance the China Maritime Silk Road countries and regions, and influence of radiation.
Shanghai Gold Exchange Chairman Jiao Jinpu said in his speech, and Xiamen signed a memorandum of cooperation is a solid implementation of the national “along the way” strategy, an important measure for China to further promote the gold market opening.
Exchange will work together with Xiamen, Xiamen accelerate the development of the regional gold market, gold market continues to explore cooperation across the Taiwan Strait, cross-strait financial cooperation and help deepen financial reform and innovation, Xiamen together to create “Chinese gold” Maritime Silk Road radiation belts were to build China’s southeast coastal areas and cross-strait “golden future.”
The parties specifically, while adhering to the principle of financial services on the basis of the real economy, will play their own characteristics and advantages, carry out related business cooperation, particularly cooperation matters include:
qualified investor groups work together to foster and support the steady development of the regional gold market;
encourage and support both sides in Xiamen aspects of the gold market pilot business cooperation and jointly promote cross-strait gold market depth cooperation; support for the establishment of the Xiamen gold market development funds,
to promote the maritime Silk Road gold industry to upgrade and build a comprehensive gold chain;
supports the establishment of a free trade area in Xiamen gold bonded warehouses and gold refining plants, and promote the construction of Xiamen maritime Silk Road has become an important re-export center for gold and gold refining processing center.”
Looks like they’re prepping for a regional currency bloc in which gold will play an integral part.
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“Xiamen Municipal Government and the Shanghai Gold Exchange in Shanghai recently signed a memorandum of cooperation. Xiamen Mayor Bae Jin Jia, deputy general manager of Shanghai Gold Exchange Song Yuqin on behalf of the two sides signed a memorandum of understanding.
Standing Committee of Fujian Provincial Committee, Party Secretary Wang Meng Hui Xiamen at the signing ceremony that history is an important node in the Xiamen Maritime Silk Road, has in recent years Taiwan has approved a comprehensive reform pilot area and China (Fujian) test area three free trade one of a Area.
Shanghai Gold Exchange is putting the “all the way along the” gold strategy, Xiamen is committed to creating a 21st Century Maritime Silk Road and Taiwan exchanges and cooperation between the two strategic fulcrum city.
The two sides will promote cooperation in various financial elements gathered in Xiamen, promote cross-strait cooperation in the depth of the gold market, gold market to enhance the China Maritime Silk Road countries and regions, and influence of radiation.
Shanghai Gold Exchange Chairman Jiao Jinpu said in his speech, and Xiamen signed a memorandum of cooperation is a solid implementation of the national “along the way” strategy, an important measure for China to further promote the gold market opening.
Exchange will work together with Xiamen, Xiamen accelerate the development of the regional gold market, gold market continues to explore cooperation across the Taiwan Strait, cross-strait financial cooperation and help deepen financial reform and innovation, Xiamen together to create “Chinese gold” Maritime Silk Road radiation belts were to build China’s southeast coastal areas and cross-strait “golden future.”
The parties specifically, while adhering to the principle of financial services on the basis of the real economy, will play their own characteristics and advantages, carry out related business cooperation, particularly cooperation matters include:
qualified investor groups work together to foster and support the steady development of the regional gold market;
encourage and support both sides in Xiamen aspects of the gold market pilot business cooperation and jointly promote cross-strait gold market depth cooperation; support for the establishment of the Xiamen gold market development funds,
to promote the maritime Silk Road gold industry to upgrade and build a comprehensive gold chain;
supports the establishment of a free trade area in Xiamen gold bonded warehouses and gold refining plants, and promote the construction of Xiamen maritime Silk Road has become an important re-export center for gold and gold refining processing center.”
Looks like they’re prepping for a regional currency bloc in which gold will play an integral part.
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