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Monday, November 2, 2015

Wealthwatch Monday Chat 11-2-15   Part 2 of 2

Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room  11-2-15
Wealthwatch Monday Chat 11-2-15   Part 2 of 2
 
Winter: There are trade agreements being discussed and done more and more the last 4-6 months, they wouldnt be doing it or even talking it if the existence and problematic activities of DAESH were as bad as the news likes to make those belive
 
Winter: News will always discourage and over exaggerate the threats other wise theses meetings and agreements would not be happening
 
Winter: WHY WHY would these be done , if DASHE and ISIS still had so much control and power of IRAQ..........Abadi opens the Baghdad International Fair in its 42 with the participation of 22 countries and more than 600 companies
 
Winter: And participate in this event both from Russia, France, the Netherlands, Ukraine, Serbia, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Slovakia, Andenossia, Brazil, Pakistan, Tunisia, Sudan, Palestine, Jordan, and Iran.
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Doug_W: they are planning ahead to "be ready" winter
 
Winter: so many people who are doing articles who have been there in the last couple of months are ALL saying the ISIS/DASHE threats is more then under control and IRAQ is rebuilding from it
 
Doug_W: no sense fretting over it one way or the other it is what it is and will B what it will B
 
Winter: doom and gloom is what sells advertising, WORLDWIDE
 
Doug_W: I agree  Doug_W: what is your point?  tabloid journalism running rampant
 
Winter: to many the last couple of months are ALL stating the ISIS/dashe threat stated in IRAQ is so so so outdated
 
Doug_W: I don't "get" why that is so important to you
 
Winter: well OOTW posts the above then another states...What international businesses, other than oil, want to commit substantial investment in a country that cannot control it's borders or 1/3 of it's lands ? Or that cannot create or follow the rule of law ?
 
The continued existence and problematic activities of DAESH are an inconvenient reality / truth that confounds the any day / everyday event fantasies of many pundits.
 
Winter: he Baghdad International Fair margin Bdorth 42 on Sunday 01/11/2015 obstacles to investment and international trade between the two countries, monetary and fiscal policy in the banking sector, debt and standardization and quality control, and the tariff customs.
 
Doug_W: may I make a suggestion?  Doug_W: quit trying to "read so much into it" just relax the truth Always comes out eventually till then we have NO control one way or another  -- relax
 
Winter: :smile:
 
OOTW: ‹@Winter› interesting points for consideration winter
 
chattels: I see that the DAESH influence / impact controversy survived my departure
chattels: Someone show me a news article that says DAESH is not a problem and i will be happy to discuss it.
 
chattels: I am not interested in anonymous sources who claim to have a cousin in Tikrit
chattels: or any anecdotal reports that I cannot examine for authorship bias / credibility
 
chattels: it is always important to try and distinguish between rhetoric and action. without following asmuchnews as possible we make ourselves vulnerable to the isolated /singular news report
 
Winter: But DASHE is not what is holding up IRAQ from moving forward or holding back an "RV"
 
chattels: "POTENTIAL TRADE AGREEMENTS WITH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY/ATTENDEES OF THE INTERNATIONAL FAIR " are just that. " Potential and attendance at a conference ( talk ) about " opportunity "
 
Winter: There has been more then that and all know it espcially the last 6 months
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› nobody knows what the conditions are for an " RV ", but in my opinion based upon news article that I cite with a link, DAESH is a problem. You do not have to accept it.
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› ready for a link anytime
 
Winter: AND so is ISIS speading everywhere, so what, its not stopping IRAQ at all, and tons of meetings, are proving it
 
Winter: OOTW: THEY'RE ABOUT POTENTIAL TRADE AGREEMENTS WITH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY/ATTENDEES OF THE INTERNATIONAL FAIR OOTW: HERE'S ONE PRESS RELEASE OF SEVERAL
 
Winter: why do it is DAESH is so bad, just another threat like so many others
 
Winter: Transportation: We seek to open a line of Baghdad - Chicago
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› I cannot catch you up on my years of posting in a few minutes in this chat room. You have decided what you have decided.
 
chattels: seeking is not finding or establishing, imo
 
Winter: you seem to think until DAESH is gone IRAQ is going no where, well sorry, but IRAQ is moving along just fine and DAESH is not stopping them
 
 
Winter: IRAQ IS STILL MOVING FORWARD
 
OOTW: winter there is no such thing as conclusiveness in either regard
OOTW: i find in life that the truth hovers somewhere in the gray areas
OOTW: neither black nor white
 
Doug_W: AMEN OOTW
 
Winter: TRUE, BUT IRAQ IS NOT MOVING BACKWARDS BECAUSE OF DAESH
 
Winter: THATS IS A FACT
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› no need to apologize to me, i am very comfortable with my observations and opinions
 
TxBrand: ‹@MichelleL› whats up... did you get a lot of wind during the tornado in Friendswood ?
 
OOTW: a fact? do you have verifiable resources on this matter?
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› do you have verifiable resources that IRAQ is at a stand still or moving backwards on DAESH
 
Winter: News I read everyday they seem to be moving forward just fine despite them
 
Winter: show me news, fatcs and sources, DAESH is stopping, stalling IRAQ from moving forward
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› You have been heard. You are entitled to your opinion, but it is not one that I share or is supported by the many posts that I have made in the forum.
 
Winter: please i am open to see proof, DAESH is stopping and proving that Iraq is NOT moving forward
 
OOTW: ‹@Winter› i never said they were  OOTW: i said it's influencing the pace
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› go to the forum and read some
 
OOTW: i do NOT approve of seemingly combative challenges by anyone at this site
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› so DAESH is the SOUL reason Iraq is not moving forward?
OOTW: no I never said that
 
OOTW: can you find validation that I have said that here at wealthwatch?
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› thank you, my point is DAESH IS NOT NOT, what is stopping IRAQ from moving forward, other wise, why would they be having the meetings, agreements, etc etc...FOR FUN, or until DAESH is all gone...no, sorry dont buy it
 
OOTW: well certainly it seems that they are moving forward, or attempting too despite the presence of DAASH
 
Winter: DAESH is a thorn just as MALIKI but will not be what stops or prevents them from what they are doing everyday
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› AMEN, thank you
 
OOTW: Iraq has forged many partnerships for investment, some stem from Iraq's plea for funds to help rid the country of Daash and have progressed further or in other directions based on that foundation
 
Doug_W: Is Maliki in the Hospital?
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› ooooh yes
 
OOTW: this is my opinion
OOTW: i support others opinions at this site, as everyone has a valid opinion or concern , for their own reasons
 
 
OOTW: sorry * I DO NOT APPROVE: of combative interactions here
 
Winter: there will ALWAYS be a threat or a thorn, but it is not stopping IRAQ, obsticals yes
 
OOTW: There is room to yield to others opinions in all cases
OOTW: this is true, every country has obstacles
OOTW: especially ME ones
 
chattels: " Iraq is suffering today from the precision and complexity of security and political conditions, economic and social as it occupies Daash about a third of the country's large military operations destructive to weigh on the daily landscape of Iraq, ...."
 
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1VPVPD1
 
Winter: I'm sorry the 1/3 got slamned as old news all over the place in the last 3 weeks
 
Winter: the suffer will also be around for years, its NOT stopping Iraq from moving forward and people YES stepping into to start not just interested
 
chattels: How a Currency Crisis in Iraq Risks Fight Against Islamic State wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1KlBHoA
 
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› You may post a link at any time as opposed to your anecdotal conclusions and unsupported opionion
 
 chattels: ‹@Winter› But you are somewhat correct in that the % occupied by DAESH has been reduced in recent months by about 10 % from the initial 1/3
 
Winter: unsupported opionion is only by people who choose
 
Winter: tons of news sources worldwide has said that what we read ONLINE and NEWS is so outdated its unreal when it comes to IRAQ
 
Winter: THE 1/3 was even laughed at by 60 minutes and the story a week ago
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› i said 60 minutes and it all over the internet
 
chattels: ‹@Winter› I saw the news cast - you are misstating it altogether
 
Winter: ok your entitled to your opinion
Winter: Iraq to hire 10,000 new paramilitary forces: Finance minister HomeMiddle EastIraq Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:50PM
 
Winter: The volunteer fighters have managed to retake key positions from militants in north Iraq, including Tikrit and Baiji, two major bastions of Daesh in Iraq’s Salahuddin Province.
 
Winter: Iraq, EU agree to form anti-Daesh intelligence center Fulton News
Winter: Iraq says forces recapture refinery town from Daesh militants Jordan Times-Oct 20, 2015
 
Winter: Iraqi airstrikes kill nearly 40 Daesh militants
 
Winter: Oct 13, 2015 BAGHDAD — Iraq has started bombing Daesh with help from a new intelligence centre that has staff from Russia, Iran and Syria,
 
 
Winter: Daesh and ISIS is a problem but not what is holding back IRAQ FROM MOVING FORWARD
 
OOTW: WINTER YOU SEEM TO BE POSTING TWEETS
OOTW: WOULD YOU THEN TOO LIKE TO POST THE LINKS FOR THE ACTUAL ARTICLES?
 
OOTW: I STRONGLY SUPPORT NEWS WITH LINKS
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› GOOGLE all those headings i posted, theyll come up
 
Doug_W: omg  lol
 
OOTW: THANK YOU BUT I HAVE ENOUGH WORK TO DO...LOL IF YOU WANT TO BRING IN ARTICLES PLEASE ALSO POST THE LINKS
 
Winter: heres just one http://ift.tt/1LNoAMf...
http://ift.tt/1Nntl1g
 
 
Winter: I understand, my point was, that all these bad on DASHE, i showed the oposite also
Winter: google Daesh in the news section and all can see for themselves everyday
 
Winter: point is there is more of daseh being defeated then there is in so much control like it used to be
 
OOTW: THANK YO UFOR THE LINK
 
Winter: ‹@OOTW› AND WE ALL APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO
 
Winter: no pretty please push the button  Winter: lol
 
OOTW: THANKS WINTER I TRY AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I AGREE OR NOT WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE, I SUPPORT THEIR OPINIONS AND I DO NOT ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS TO CHALLENGE IN AN OFFENSIVE MANNER, BUT TO DEBATE WITH RESPECT
 
 
Winter: i challenge IRAQ news PERIOD, it an aspirin /alcohol needed substance for us all...lol
 
OOTW: ALL NEWS IS AS SUCH WINTER  OOTW: ALL IS UP FOR SCRUTINY
 
OOTW: Assad contradicts Russia and hits Darya barrels Join our daily free Newsletter MENAFN - Al Watan - 02/11/2015 Digg This Article:LINK

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 Add to Delicious Seed this article Buzz this article Add to Reddit Add to furl Add to stumbleupon Add to Mixx! Send to a Friend Print version Translation Add to Favorites Text Size Al Watan (MENAFN - Al Watan) initiated the Assad regime, such as the arrival of the UN Special Envoy to Syria, Staffan de Mistura, to Damascus, yesterday,
 
throwing 29 barrels explosive areas in the city Darya Western Balgoth, as helicopters bombed barrels explosive areas in the town of Khan wormwood and farms surrounding the western Ghouta, and elsewhere in the Shiyah area near Muadamiyat al-Sham Western Balgoth, leaving a number of dead and wounded.
 
It was Assad vowed earlier to an envoy of the United Nations and Russia to stop using explosive barrels, while come de Mistura two-day visit of the Vienna meeting after, In the framework of the political efforts to activate the statement Geneva Conference 1. On the other hand, local sources reported that clashes be
 
Winter: amen
 
OOTW: The same sources pointed to the killing of 15 component of the forces of order, by the explosion of a mine when trying to infiltrate the village "Red Jeb" in Mount Kurds Brive Latakia. On the other hand, Turkish and US aircraft, and the forces of the Syrian opposition carried out, yesterday,
 
 joint offensive against affiliated sites to organize Daash, the northern province of Aleppo in northern Syria, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights to Daash dominated town in the south-eastern Homs,
 
 to move toward an historic village with a majority of Christian, just 10 kilometers from the international road between Damascus and Aleppo.
 
Sources said that the town insulting overlooking the Homs Road - destroy the international severed since the control of the organization Daash to destroy 21 last May, pointing out that the free army was ready for a military operation, which will be delayed because of the attack Daash on the offensive.
 
In addition, said the commander of the army free Brive protectors of the North, In a press statement yesterday, "we moved from defense to attack in the region, after Addressing land-based attack wide, waged by the regime cover Joey Rossi, early last month, stressing that no dialogue with Russia, even end its occupation of Syria and abandon its support of the Assad regime.
 
He said army commander victory, leading, Mohammed Mansour The free army factions formed a room standardized processes, and was able to exceed the state of confusion that lived at the beginning of the attack, and was able to regain control of the town Kvrenbaudh, hours after entering the system it forces, and became a free military factions has the lead, The attacks on the forces of order.
 
Winter: one way or another with the start of RUSSIA doing what there doing, its only a matter of time
 
OOTW: YES THE SITUATION SEEMS INCREASINGLY TENSE
 
TxBrand: gezz I just watched a bible prophecy film... they think Russia will use a use that weapon that destroys our power grid... then I come in here and yall are talking about Russia  :ermm:
 
Winter: Sami al-Araji for {} to Firat News: We made a lot of guarantees to open the door for investment in Iraq
 
OOTW: i find it very interesting that travel currency sellers in the UK are stating they have no more dinar for sale, yet here, we do not seem to be seeing a lack of iqd for sale with currency retailers
 
OOTW: hmm hmmm hmmm
 OOTW: interesting article from butifldrm
 
OOTW: Najiba Najib: Government has taken proactive steps to face any financial crisis has hit the country
 
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1LNoxzW
 
 OOTW: i have to run guys - have a great day
 
 OOTW: IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, NEEDS OR CONCERNS PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME AT   WEALTHWATCH.WORLD@GMAIL.COM   OOTW: OR HERE AT THE SITE

 MichelleL: anyone see something about iraq buying back dinar for gold? must've been a recaps thang I caught the other day
 
Doug_W: not I M
 
MichelleL: ty Doug
 
MichelleL: might have been my imagination lol
 
 
TxBrand: ‹@MichelleL› yes I heard that or read it ..about gold
 
 TxBrand: its a shirt sale... the bank has not said yes... even though they gave a us price for the last contract lol
 
MichelleL: might have been someone trying to boost the morale of peeps on their site - how is it going, TX? how come you never told me how sweet that glycerine is? lol
 
TxBrand: short    TxBrand: shirt lol
 
MichelleL: short sale, shirt would be fine, i can use a few new black ones lol
 
MichelleL: its that or the silver, or both Tx lol so how long can they stall? you may not make it in before thanksgiving I'm afraid
 
 chattels: Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri revealed that the House of Representatives phase ends submit a bill to resolve the accountability and justice [de-Baathification previously] and refer covered by the file to the Iraqi judiciary. wealthwatch.world/showthr...
 
 [05:31:13 PM] chattels: Iraqi leaders in Kurdistan region to mediate between rival parties
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — Top Iraqi leaders seeking to reconcile deadlocked and rival Kurdish political parties are reportedly visiting the Kurdistan region to act as mediators between the entrenched factions, including Ammar al-Hakim, the head of the Shiite Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, and Iraqi Parliament Speaker Salim Jabouri.   chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1Nntl1h
 
Abraham: The most serious threat to Iraq is not ISIS but Maliki
Abraham: You can't half kill a snake, you must cut off his head
Abraham: Failing which it can still bite you
 
Abraham: The mistake Abadi made is prior to any reforms Malaki should have been dealt with.
 
Abraham: It is coming back to bite Abadi and our boys will have to deal with it. 
BOBBY: Abraham. ...... this goes back to the million dollar question, why has he not been delt with on a permanent basis?
 
Abraham: ‹@BOBBY› I don't know. Make no sense to me. He must be holding a very big secret

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