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TxBrand: Baghdad] Federal Supreme Court dismissed the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi, the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic under the resolutions of the reforms made by Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi.
Legal expert said Tariq Harb for each agency in Iraq that "the Tribunal responded the appeal of one of the Vice-Presidents of the Republic [covered by cancellation of senior positions]," Noting that "this challenge confirms the constitutionality of the decision to abolish these posts".
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
The Cabinet was voted in 11 August, approving a package of government reforms included the abolition of Deputy Ministers Presidents. finished
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Wealthwatch Friday Chat 11-27-15 Part 2 of 2
TxBrand: Baghdad] Federal Supreme Court dismissed the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi, the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic under the resolutions of the reforms made by Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi.
Legal expert said Tariq Harb for each agency in Iraq that "the Tribunal responded the appeal of one of the Vice-Presidents of the Republic [covered by cancellation of senior positions]," Noting that "this challenge confirms the constitutionality of the decision to abolish these posts".
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
The Cabinet was voted in 11 August, approving a package of government reforms included the abolition of Deputy Ministers Presidents. finished
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TxBrand: I beat ya lol
chattels: "the Tribunal responded the appeal of one of the Vice-Presidents of the Republic "
chattels: " one of the Vice-Presidents "
TxBrand: ok...I read it... no idea what it sayd
chattels: " the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi "
BOBBY: TxBrand..... third time the charm lol
chattels: " ........ Tariq Harb, Maliki's ex lawyer claims crt ruling means ................... "
chattels: " claims "
TxBrand: this is bing : Federal Supreme Court dismissed the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi, the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic under the resolutions of the reforms made by Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi.
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
The Cabinet was voted in 11 August, approving a package of government reforms included the abolition of Deputy Ministers Presidents. finished
chattels: "this appeal confirms the constitutionality of the decision to cancel these positions."
TxBrand: oh ok
chattels: I will wait to decide
rocknrollbus: confirmed?? they're done?
rocknrollbus: i guess, wait and see what tomorrow brings........
chattels: " said the legal expert Tariq Harb "
chattels: He has been " wrong " before
rocknrollbus: my article is from visser................he's normally spoT on!!
rocknrollbus: and, is maliKi really in iran?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› agreed
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› one report tells us so
BOBBY: i believe it was stated he was seeking medical attention in Iran
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› yes
rocknrollbus: also, read an art about erdogan's son being buddies with isis big dawgs
chattels: Maliki heads tomorrow to Iran for the purpose of treatment :: 2015/11/24 11:38 • [Baghdad-where] the former vice president Nuri al-Maliki tomorrow heading to Iran. A statement by his press office received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it today that "al-Maliki on Wednesday heading to Iran for a visit lasting several therapeutic Ayam. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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rocknrollbus: remember u saying........"timing" bwaaahahahahaha
chattels: you r well read
rocknrollbus: been off tour for about a month!!! i love to read
rocknrollbus: have family in penatgon and different "3 letter" places
rocknrollbus: of course, I've never heard any of the BS these douchebag guru's say from my peeps rocknrollbus: chattles, how long u been in?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› 5 yrs, u ?
rocknrollbus: lil longer........heard about it back in the '03 '04 years, but didn't act on it until i did a s** load of research.........
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› hopeful still ?
rocknrollbus: yeah.......don't really know what it'll come in at, altho i really believe it will someday be on par with the kuwaiti dinar
TxBrand: dang this is not even on the news... may not be correct ...see what you think http://ift.tt/1YzUNfM...
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chattels: ‹@TxBrand› interesting
rocknrollbus: yuuuuup has that shroom cloud like a nuke!!
chattels: Why It’s Time for a Free Kurdistan It’s spread across several de facto ‘states,’ but Kurdish nationalism has become a reality as the rest of the Middle East crumbles.
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chattels: Just as the world needs to accept that there are multiple, self-governing Kurdistans, so do the Kurds. The common political idea among Kurds for decades has been the need for a single Kurdistan that would bring together the Kurdish regions of Syria, Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.
For the Kurds to accept a series of Kurdistans, they will need to stop intervening in each other’s politics. There will be less tensions among Kurdish parties, and less international wariness of Kurdish nationalism, if Kurds themselves accept that there will never be a united Kurdistan.
rocknrollbus: i know "uncle joe" biden has sure been pushing for it
chattels: The arguments against Kurdish independence are obsolete. It’s not a question of whether the world should allow Kurds to have independent states. It’s a matter of the international community catching up with what the Kurds have already done.
chattels: . NEWSTECH + HEALTHBEASTSTYLEBOOKSVIDEO A Peshmerga soldier walk to place a Kurdish flag near the frontline with ISIL on November 16, 2015 in Sinjar, Iraq. Kurdish forces, with the aid of massive U.S.-led coalition airstrikes, liberated the town from ISIL extremists, known in Arabic as Daesh, in recent days.
John Moore/Getty WRITTEN BY Aliza Marcus Andrew Apostolou facebook tweet email redditSUBMIT SELF-DETERMINATION11.27.1... AM ET Why It’s Time for a Free Kurdistan It’s spread across several de facto ‘states,’ but Kurdish nationalism has become a reality as the rest of the Middle East crumbles.
It’s time to stop debating whether or not the Kurds deserve an independent state. There are around 40 million Kurds across Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria—the largest ethnic group without self-determination. Kurds have long sought independence, but the states in which they live have always opposed it.
The U.S. and its Western allies oppose Kurdish independence because of fears it could destabilize the already volatile Middle East. The arguments against Kurdish independence are obsolete.
It’s not a question of whether the world should allow Kurds to have independent states. It’s a matter of the international community catching up with what the Kurds have already done.
In Iraq and Syria, Kurdish groups have established their own states—albeit de facto—without waiting for anyone’s permission. These are not fully fledged independent countries with diplomatic missions at the United Nations and international recognition. They don’t need to be. Kurds have shown they can manage without that.
In Turkey, where close to half of all Kurds live, they are demanding self-rule but are up against a state that is unwilling to negotiate political rights. The question now is whether the U.S. and others can accept Kurdish self-rule.
That question is more urgent given the importance of the Kurds in Iraq and Syria for the fight against the so-called Islamic State widely known as ISIS. As importantly, can the Kurds learn to accept their own
chattels: oop
chattels: In Iraq, the Kurds have governed themselves since 1991, when a U.S.-led no-fly zone was established in the country’s north to protect the Kurds from Saddam Hussein’s forces. The Kurds set up the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), their own parliament, used a different version of the Iraqi dinar than the rest of the country, and even issued their own postal stamps.
chattels: " ...... used a different version of the Iraqi dinar than the rest of the country ........ "
rocknrollbus: not now tho
chattels: Given how Kurds have been treated in the countries in which they live, it’s no surprise that they have demanded the right to govern themselves and are willing to fight. So it’s time that the international community caught up with Kurdish desires and helped Kurds build stable, democratic institutions, instead of taking the side of those who want to rule over the Kurds.
chattels: "the Tribunal responded the appeal of one of the Vice-Presidents of the Republic "
chattels: " one of the Vice-Presidents "
TxBrand: ok...I read it... no idea what it sayd
chattels: " the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi "
BOBBY: TxBrand..... third time the charm lol
chattels: " ........ Tariq Harb, Maliki's ex lawyer claims crt ruling means ................... "
chattels: " claims "
TxBrand: this is bing : Federal Supreme Court dismissed the appeal of Osama Al-nujaifi, the abolition of the posts of Vice-Presidents of the Republic under the resolutions of the reforms made by Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi.
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
Federal Supreme Court, has deferred on the 17th of this month to consider two complaints submitted by the head of a coalition uniting Osama Al-nujaifi, to challenge the decision to abolish the post of Deputy President to 24 month [Tuesday] for the purpose of completing legal procedures, and provide the parties own reply.
The Cabinet was voted in 11 August, approving a package of government reforms included the abolition of Deputy Ministers Presidents. finished
chattels: "this appeal confirms the constitutionality of the decision to cancel these positions."
TxBrand: oh ok
chattels: I will wait to decide
rocknrollbus: confirmed?? they're done?
rocknrollbus: i guess, wait and see what tomorrow brings........
chattels: " said the legal expert Tariq Harb "
chattels: He has been " wrong " before
rocknrollbus: my article is from visser................he's normally spoT on!!
rocknrollbus: and, is maliKi really in iran?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› agreed
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› one report tells us so
BOBBY: i believe it was stated he was seeking medical attention in Iran
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› yes
rocknrollbus: also, read an art about erdogan's son being buddies with isis big dawgs
chattels: Maliki heads tomorrow to Iran for the purpose of treatment :: 2015/11/24 11:38 • [Baghdad-where] the former vice president Nuri al-Maliki tomorrow heading to Iran. A statement by his press office received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it today that "al-Maliki on Wednesday heading to Iran for a visit lasting several therapeutic Ayam. chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1OswH1w
rocknrollbus: remember u saying........"timing" bwaaahahahahaha
chattels: you r well read
rocknrollbus: been off tour for about a month!!! i love to read
rocknrollbus: have family in penatgon and different "3 letter" places
rocknrollbus: of course, I've never heard any of the BS these douchebag guru's say from my peeps rocknrollbus: chattles, how long u been in?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› 5 yrs, u ?
rocknrollbus: lil longer........heard about it back in the '03 '04 years, but didn't act on it until i did a s** load of research.........
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› hopeful still ?
rocknrollbus: yeah.......don't really know what it'll come in at, altho i really believe it will someday be on par with the kuwaiti dinar
TxBrand: dang this is not even on the news... may not be correct ...see what you think http://ift.tt/1YzUNfM...
http://ift.tt/1HvcXeo’
chattels: ‹@TxBrand› interesting
rocknrollbus: yuuuuup has that shroom cloud like a nuke!!
chattels: Why It’s Time for a Free Kurdistan It’s spread across several de facto ‘states,’ but Kurdish nationalism has become a reality as the rest of the Middle East crumbles.
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1YzUNw0
chattels: http://ift.tt/1wwahEh...
http://ift.tt/1YzUMbu
chattels: Just as the world needs to accept that there are multiple, self-governing Kurdistans, so do the Kurds. The common political idea among Kurds for decades has been the need for a single Kurdistan that would bring together the Kurdish regions of Syria, Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.
For the Kurds to accept a series of Kurdistans, they will need to stop intervening in each other’s politics. There will be less tensions among Kurdish parties, and less international wariness of Kurdish nationalism, if Kurds themselves accept that there will never be a united Kurdistan.
rocknrollbus: i know "uncle joe" biden has sure been pushing for it
chattels: The arguments against Kurdish independence are obsolete. It’s not a question of whether the world should allow Kurds to have independent states. It’s a matter of the international community catching up with what the Kurds have already done.
chattels: . NEWSTECH + HEALTHBEASTSTYLEBOOKSVIDEO A Peshmerga soldier walk to place a Kurdish flag near the frontline with ISIL on November 16, 2015 in Sinjar, Iraq. Kurdish forces, with the aid of massive U.S.-led coalition airstrikes, liberated the town from ISIL extremists, known in Arabic as Daesh, in recent days.
John Moore/Getty WRITTEN BY Aliza Marcus Andrew Apostolou facebook tweet email redditSUBMIT SELF-DETERMINATION11.27.1... AM ET Why It’s Time for a Free Kurdistan It’s spread across several de facto ‘states,’ but Kurdish nationalism has become a reality as the rest of the Middle East crumbles.
It’s time to stop debating whether or not the Kurds deserve an independent state. There are around 40 million Kurds across Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria—the largest ethnic group without self-determination. Kurds have long sought independence, but the states in which they live have always opposed it.
The U.S. and its Western allies oppose Kurdish independence because of fears it could destabilize the already volatile Middle East. The arguments against Kurdish independence are obsolete.
It’s not a question of whether the world should allow Kurds to have independent states. It’s a matter of the international community catching up with what the Kurds have already done.
In Iraq and Syria, Kurdish groups have established their own states—albeit de facto—without waiting for anyone’s permission. These are not fully fledged independent countries with diplomatic missions at the United Nations and international recognition. They don’t need to be. Kurds have shown they can manage without that.
In Turkey, where close to half of all Kurds live, they are demanding self-rule but are up against a state that is unwilling to negotiate political rights. The question now is whether the U.S. and others can accept Kurdish self-rule.
That question is more urgent given the importance of the Kurds in Iraq and Syria for the fight against the so-called Islamic State widely known as ISIS. As importantly, can the Kurds learn to accept their own
chattels: oop
chattels: In Iraq, the Kurds have governed themselves since 1991, when a U.S.-led no-fly zone was established in the country’s north to protect the Kurds from Saddam Hussein’s forces. The Kurds set up the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), their own parliament, used a different version of the Iraqi dinar than the rest of the country, and even issued their own postal stamps.
chattels: " ...... used a different version of the Iraqi dinar than the rest of the country ........ "
rocknrollbus: not now tho
chattels: Given how Kurds have been treated in the countries in which they live, it’s no surprise that they have demanded the right to govern themselves and are willing to fight. So it’s time that the international community caught up with Kurdish desires and helped Kurds build stable, democratic institutions, instead of taking the side of those who want to rule over the Kurds.
chattels: Given how Kurds have been treated in the countries in which they live, it’s no surprise that they have demanded the right to govern themselves and are willing to fight.
So it’s time that the international community caught up with Kurdish desires and helped Kurds build stable, democratic institutions, instead of taking the side of those who want to rule over the Kurds.
rocknrollbus: don't know if they'll ever get hcl done.......bagdad says kurds owe 400mil.........kurds say bagdad owes months of back pay.............
chattels: Lukman Faily @FailyLukman 11h11 hours ago Great observations from @roberttollast on Basra's improving business environment bit.ly/1RaLUqF
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chattels: Ahmed Ali @IraqShamel 8h8 hours ago It's indisputable, however, that Abadi is self-weakened by his own slow governance style. He needs to show sense of urgency.
rocknrollbus: agreed
chattels: #Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi struggles with backlash from promised reforms - my @FT piece http://on.ft.com/1N9pG6X http://ift.tt/ymw8e3 LINK
chattels: An official source, said Friday that the Federal Court decision cold suit vice president of the republic confirms that the reforms launched by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is based on the Constitution and the law, as pointed out that allegation other down their positions lie, stressing that reforms the past does not return them. wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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chattels: " the reforms launched by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is based on the Constitution and the law "
So it’s time that the international community caught up with Kurdish desires and helped Kurds build stable, democratic institutions, instead of taking the side of those who want to rule over the Kurds.
rocknrollbus: don't know if they'll ever get hcl done.......bagdad says kurds owe 400mil.........kurds say bagdad owes months of back pay.............
chattels: Lukman Faily @FailyLukman 11h11 hours ago Great observations from @roberttollast on Basra's improving business environment bit.ly/1RaLUqF
http://ift.tt/1HvcXes
chattels: Ahmed Ali @IraqShamel 8h8 hours ago It's indisputable, however, that Abadi is self-weakened by his own slow governance style. He needs to show sense of urgency.
rocknrollbus: agreed
chattels: #Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi struggles with backlash from promised reforms - my @FT piece http://on.ft.com/1N9pG6X http://ift.tt/ymw8e3 LINK
chattels: An official source, said Friday that the Federal Court decision cold suit vice president of the republic confirms that the reforms launched by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is based on the Constitution and the law, as pointed out that allegation other down their positions lie, stressing that reforms the past does not return them. wealthwatch.world/showthr...
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chattels: " the reforms launched by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is based on the Constitution and the law "
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