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Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Dinar Updates Member Chat  1-26-16   Part 2 of 2

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Dinar Updates Member Chat  1-26-16   Part 2 of 2
 
clay says to dinarmassa():yes that we know my question if Iran is moving forward with their banking why would IMF hold Irq back
 
rcookie says():THESE BOND PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR THE 1ST TIME SINCE 2003.....WILL GIVE THEM OWNERSHIP...AND "SKIN IN THE GAME" TO IRAQS GROWTH...
 
dinarmassa says to rcookie():Good comment, but what percentage of the iraqi population have the money to invest
 
rcookie says():PROPORTIONAL....BUT ALTHOUGH 30% UNEMPLOYMENT...THAT MEANS 70% WORKING..AND OPTION IS THERE TO PARTICIPATE...NOT MANDATORY...BUT OPTION...
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dinarmassa says to rcookie():Hate to say it, but cutting out the corruption might be eliminating the big investments. The 70% working I have a feeling aren't making substantial income
 
rcookie says():AGAIN...THAT PROGRAM IS IN 2016 BUDGET...AND ANOTHER MANDATE ACHIEVED IN IMF LOI/MEFP/TECH MOU....
 
rcookie says():THEY ARENT MAKING SUBSTANTIAL INCOME....IT IS THE AVAILABILTY TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROGRAM THAT HAS NOT BEEN ON THE TABLE FOR HEM SINCE 2003....
 
rcookie says():WHO IS BUYING AND INVESTING ALL THIS REAL ESTATE IN TURKEY & JORDAN MAKING THE M THE OVERWHELMING LEADER IN OUTSIDE INVESTMENT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS...
 
clay says to rcookie():do we know when these bonds will go on the market yet
 
rcookie says():IN THE COMING DAYS...LOL
clay says to rcookie():now thats funny right there (lol)
 
larrykn says():rcookie are you saying maliki is buying up property in Turkey, and won't the Iraq govenment go after that when they find out,
 
clay01 says to clay():From what I have read, they have already been selling bonds to the people, but not 100% on that
 
rcookie says():NO...
 
dinarmassa says to rcookie():That's a good question, is it clean money being invested in T &J or corrupt money
 
clay says to dinarmassa():I say the latter
 
rcookie says(8:26 AM):THE PROGRAM WAS ANNONCED AT BEGINNING OF MONTH...REITERATED LAST WEEK AND RECONFIRMED OF LAUNCH TODAY...
 
clay says to rcookie():so bonds are available now?
larrykn says():I'm lost are we talking about the bonds or the real estate lol
jtank says():prolly like the 50k and the 100k and gold coins
clay says to larrykn():lol bonds
 
dinarmassa says to rcookie():Be very interesting with some of the corruption being exposed the volumn of bonds purchased
jtank says():10% is good
 
rcookie says():THIS PROGRAM IN NOT BEING SUGGESTED AS PANACEA TO IRAQS AND CITIZENS ECONOMIC & FINANCIAL PROBLEMS...
 
IT IS 1 OF MANY REFORM VEHICLES TO ADDRESS BUDGET DEFICIT AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING ALONG WITH LOANS AND NON OIL REVENUE STREAMS....
 
clay says to jtank():Id like to cash in my paper for gold coins :)
clay says to rcookie():got ya
 
dinarmassa says to clay():Probably could get the gold, just not much of it at this point
 
rcookie says():WERE TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAM...
larrykn says():got ya :)
 
rcookie says():OK....BASRA BUDGET NUMBERS ARE IN.....(
 
rcookie says():Planning: 647 billion and 453 million share of Basra from albetrodlar this year
 
Economy and tenders Since 2016-05-26 at 12:11 (GMT)
 
Baghdad balance news -  The planning Ministry said Tuesday that the share of Basra of petrodollars – being free 2016 amount to 453 billion and 647 million dinars, with conservative allocations will be reported within the regions development 96 billion and 355 million dinars.
 
According to the Ministry's information Office statement received Agency/news/balance "discussed with the Ministry of local Government of Basra province during a meeting chaired by Undersecretary for technical Affairs,
 
Maher Hammad with the participation of the Basra Governor Majid Al-Nasrawi and agents of ministries of finance, construction and housing, municipal, water resources and representatives of several ministries, the reality of service projects and ongoing investment in the province completed under crisis mechanisms pain Les bwaghha current Iraq and the need to seek sources
 
rcookie says():of funding either through enforcement or term as investment opportunities.
 
Hamad stressed during the meeting that "share of Basra governorate of petrodollars – being free for 2016 would amount to 453 billion and 647 million dinars, with conservative allocations will be reported within the regions development 96 billion and 355 million dinars".
 
For his part, between the Nazarene ", his Government had taken a series of important measures to deal with the reality of ongoing projects", adding that "there are 425 projects now being implemented and 81 had been adjusted percentage of project completed 90% and exceeded the cost of 564 billion dinars, the inventory of non-priority projects at the current stage, all 158 projects and delete another 413 costing about 3 trillion dinars".
 
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clay says to dinarmassa():would love gold
 
rcookie says():He drew "Nazarene projects are priority task has a total of 186 projects amounts remaining to be completed 1 trillion and 213 billion dinars," adding that "electricity emergency projects for 2016 with 67 projects at a cost of 166 billion dinars and there are 31 projects worth 831 billion dinars have been excluded from the decision of the Committee on Economic Affairs for the purpose of direct during current year. ended 29/38  LINK
 

 
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clay says to rcookie():appreciate your input for us (handshake)
 
Hutch says():News of the Government to borrow 30 billion dollars from the Central Bank
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dinarmassa says to clay():Probably could buy those bonds(@)
clay says to dinarmassa():probably
 
clay says to dinarmassa():but who would until they r internationally recognized just my opinion
dinarmassa says to clay():my views as well
clay says to dinarmassa():right would not be safe IMO
 
Hutch says(Deputy in parliamentary legal clarify amnesty law ready to vote
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templejc says to rcookie():WHYT WOULD THE GOV WANT TO BORROW MONEY FROM THE CBI?
dinarmassa says to clay():Looks to me the objective is Article 8, then RV..
 
clay says to templejc():hey buddy good to see ya this morning
jtank says():unless they fix the money I wouldnt buy anything yet
 
clay says to dinarmassa():cant wait
clay says to jtank():esactly my feeling
 
Hutch says to templejc():In reading the article, It also talks of the launching of the 50k
 
templejc says to rcookie():DO YOU BELIEVE THIS INFORMATION -------> ABOUT 3 OR 4 DAYS AGO, IRAN SAID THEY WOULD NOT LAUNCH OR RE-ENTER THE WORLD WITHOUT IRAQ BECAUSE IT WOULD CAUSE A TRADE IMBALANCE! THIS MEANS THEY ARE ADHERING TO “THE DEAL”.
 
WE SEE IRAN STATE THAT IN A WEEK OR TWO THEY WOULD BEGIN TO RE-ENTER THE WORLD SLOWLY! ISN’T IT INTERESTING THAT 2 WEEKS FROM TODAY [MONDAY 1-25-16] IS THE 8TH?
 
ONCE THEY START, THEY SAID IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE LESS THAN A MONTH!
 
IF IRAN AND IRAQ BOTH LAUNCH WITH OTHER SIGNIFICANT CURRENCIES LIKE THE DONG AND RUPIAH (WHICH THEY WILL), THEY WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE FOR WTO INDUCTION IN JUNE!
 
subgirl says to Hutch():found in the blog and last nights chatlog :) “Round Table” Dinar Call!!
 
tman23 says():Talibani said.....Kurdistan region of Iraq 550 thousand barrels of crude oil through SOMO State oil marketing budget share exchange for 17% of 2016 Budget.
 
The fact that the control remains in the hands of the Central Government by 100 percent and a lack of clarity about our budget and how to calculate it will prevent us from implementing what is written in the 2016.0" budget ..
 
Talabani noted that the Kurdistan Regional Government Iraq has no intention of implementing it. Talabani said .."in the shadow of the oil price, the hundreds of thousands of barrels here or there will not solve the problems in Baghdad and will not solve our problems.
 
We must think in another formula to solve our economic problems. " Talabani said... Iraq must make more efforts to find another political solution, he said, "I don't see any way for political reconciliation in Iraq."
 
jtank says():these guys Kurds and the rest better get it together or face collapse-- I am sure Iran would like to take over
 
tman23 says():  Confirmed State of law Coalition Deputy DG, the Kurds will be custodians of national partnership Government, demanded the expulsion of all Ministers and officials in the Central Government and the Kurds deported to Kurdistan provinces.
 
Nasif said in a statement that "Kurds will not be partners and honest partnership government", at the same time claim to "expel all Ministers and officials in all government departments of the Central Government and deported to Kurdistan."
 
The prosecutor called for the State of law coalition under the National Alliance, "Massoud Barzani, grace six months to implement the separation from his technical and logistical requirements with respect to the disputed areas."
 
tman23 says():Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abbadi nineth prospective cabinet reshuffle in his Government.
 
Abbadi stressed during his meeting yesterday evening a group of analysts, journalists and politicians, "Proclamation of what is traded from the u.s. Government, but there is a reshuffle".
 
"The press early this month indicated to some leaks about prospective Government reshuffle, Haider Al-Abadi include education Minister Hussein Al-Shahristani to replace Foreign Minister Ibrahim Al-Jaafari, the replacement of Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari, a former Deputy Prime Minister (almrshk) rose Nuri beshauis.

"It also is changing the Interior Minister Mohammad Yu Chairman Bader Al-araji denominator parliamentary block, merge with MEW with oil in a single Ministry, the Ministry of transport with the Ministry of communications that Hassan Rashed and chief representative Mohammed Al-karbouli solution block the post of Ministry of Commerce,
 
tank says(9:01 AM):sounds like the kurds want to seperate
 
ljenterprises says(9:01 AM):Taking out the "last" of the corrupt
ljenterprises says(9:01 AM):jtank: They have been saying that for a while now
 
tman23 says(): Abadi drops ONE KURD......Just ONE......lets say he replaces Zebari with Shaways.....It will be the nail in FINAL nail in the coffin...
 
mudder says():But if he adds to replace the currupt ones.... There might be no coffin to nail...
 
clay says to mudder():would think if he takes out a kurd he would replace w/another kurd to keep the peace
 
ljenterprises says():tman: Hasn't Zebari over stayed his term? Is he the one?
mudder says to clay():IMO he would look better if he replace a shia with a kurd...lol
clay says to mudder():that too
 
tman23 says to ljenterprises(9:10 AM):Your thinking of the KRG (Kurd Region Government) President Barzani
ljenterprises says():tman23: Yes, I am (y)
 
clay says to jtank():thats him the corrupt judge
clay says():GM Mr. White whats your thoughts on Iran moving with swift leaving Iraq behind can that happen
 
da58 says to tman23():wouldn't he have to replace with a Kurd if he did such an action... was just thinking aoubt the "17%" which is not only about $$$ but also about seats in Parl, officers in military, etc.. ? does that involve ministers of Parl as well - that I'm not sure of..
tman23 says to clay():I can recall speaking on the nuclear deal last year and the general opinion was it would not affect Iraq and had nothing to do with Iraq RV.........
 
 Now it has been pulled into the center of the ring regarding the necessity for Iraq to RV first......Then we have people ready to run and purchase rial for instant "riches" and/or huge profits.....
 
As you know I took quite some heat for opinions on the 3 zeros, lower denoms, and value of IQD and a RV impact on regional trade...... Interesting thought that Irans fiscal year begins March 1st....... IMO.....the lifting of the 3 zeros is in play....we just wait to see how they handle the 3 zero notes.......
 
jtank says():the nuke deal has to be open for inspectors - before they can go international
 
jims says to tman23():Actually, Iran's fiscal year starts March 21...according to several sources...

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B_Dee says to tman23(9):the lifting of the 3 zeros is in play for Iran ? right ?
 
SCOTZGIRL says():Do we have the article or ink stating that Iran agreed to wait for Iraq to RI/RV ahead of them?
jims says to clay():GM Clay.... It looks like thisthing is really happening.. There is an extra skip in my step
 
jims says to SCOTZGIRL():No... its all speculation... however, if iran did agree to anything, it would be o wait for months thats for sure
 
clay says to jims():lol sure looking that way finally
 
tman23 says():Over the past few months the parties have been somewhat silent through media outlets on rhetoric...... Think of families in the USA.....financial problems cause divorces and domestic violence........ In Iraq it is not the financial crisis so much as who gets what.......
 
It is like 50 people with 100 loaves of bread spoiling on the shelf..... as soon as the decision is made that everyone gets 2 loaves of bread each before it spoils, the argument begins as so and so doesn't deserve any bread.....
 
And so by the time the committee is formed to study and come to agreement......the bread is NO GOOD !!....... My point to this is.......... They have begun an all out rhetoric assualt AGAIN.......which IMO indicates that they are about to distribute the "bread".......
 
jims says to SCOTZGIRL():it would not be to wait for months
B_Dee says to jims(9):i agree... they would not wait
 
Tman23 says():They are praying for ISX international exchange where they can raise money by selling debt and companies can go IPO to raise capital from foreign investors.......
 
This will be the quickest way to liquidity for banks...... The CBI is going to cover the GOI shortfalls for a period of 6 months.......basically 4 billion per month.......
 
So in the 6 month period and Iran sanctions lifted........construction and import supplies should begin to flow and start generating a market with stability.... If the investment does not come....... and oil remains low....it is big trouble in paradise !!


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