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Wealthwatch Tuesday Morning Chat 11-10-15
chattels: Catalonia takes historic first step to independence from Spain By Alexandra Di Stefano Pironti http://ift.tt/1eZUx7Q... http://ift.tt/1HshZIj
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chattels: The adaptation of a combat regiment of the sons of Anbar to catch the ground after its liberation from Daash A security source told all of Iraq [where] that "the regiment combat of the sons of Anbar tribes volunteered in the ranks of the popular crowd."
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Wealthwatch Tuesday Morning Chat 11-10-15
chattels: Catalonia takes historic first step to independence from Spain By Alexandra Di Stefano Pironti http://ift.tt/1eZUx7Q... http://ift.tt/1HshZIj
chattels: http://ift.tt/1RLG513...
http://ift.tt/20HaZxz
chattels: The adaptation of a combat regiment of the sons of Anbar to catch the ground after its liberation from Daash A security source told all of Iraq [where] that "the regiment combat of the sons of Anbar tribes volunteered in the ranks of the popular crowd."
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He added that the rehabilitation and training of fighters process began military Habbaniyah, east of Ramadi base, stressing that "the fighters will maintenance of the liberated land of Daash. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1SGTybp
chattels: There are four steps to " normalization " or repatriation of Iraqi territories from DAESH. 1) Defeat / ouster of militants, 2) removal of " booby traps ", 3) maintenance of liberated areas, and 4) resettlement of the displaced population
chattels: Hisham al-Suhail: Parliament soon will sponsor an international conference on national reconciliation 9/11/2015 7:04 http://ift.tt/1GNR4RF..
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrC
chattels: Sponsoring a conference is not the same as participation in or effectuation of their own national reconciliation, IMO.
Doug_W: GM gang
lonegunman: ‹@Doug_W› good morn!!
lonegunman: Time for work
lonegunman: Feel free Iraq to add value to your worthless currency...
lonegunman: At any time. !!!! Now works for me
Doug_W: what he ^^ Said
tourman: (yawn) (yawn) SUP! Ya'll?
tourman: (yawn) (Yawn) going back to bed...
Donnie: Iraqis seize Canadian Forces aircraft, accuse military of moving weapons to Kurds without approval
Donnie: Iraqi officials temporarily seized a military aircraft carrying weapons for Canadian special forces in Kurdistan, amid a wave of anti-western conspiracy theories rife in Iraqi politics. The seizure and the reasons for it raise questions for Canada’s new Liberal government, which has vowed to do more military training in the country.
The Iraqis said they held the Canadian Forces Hercules transport aircraft, carrying supplies into Kurdistan without authorization, for four days. Some Iraqis are concerned that the Kurds, who ultimately want independence for their territory, will use the support and weapons they receive from the U.S.-led coalition to eventually break away.
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1Hw7y6B...
http://ift.tt/1Sd4EUs
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate 54m54 minutes ago Iraq Live Update Retweeted anthony fenton Confirmed! Canada tried to ship 'Guns with silencers' to Erbil WITHOUT Iraq gov approval
Doug_W: ty Donnie
Donnie: They got some work done today:
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1Hw7y6D
Donnie: click image Donnie: it's 3:30 PM in Iraq now
disciple7: very nice disciple7: when does parliament reconvene?
disciple7: or do they have another break coming up?
*SCZIN11: ‹@disciple7› THURSDAY *SCZIN11: GOOD MORNING
forestnr4: ‹@*SCZIN11› Did you see Kap's comments from late in the day yesterday?
Doug_W: what did he say 4 ?
forestnr4: ‹@Doug_W›11-9-2015 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article quote: "the Council of Ministers may ask the Central Bank "soon" to leave the currency auction and resorting to "float the dollar" In years past, their were numerous articles that always said the Council of Ministers did not approve under the Maliki governments.
In fact, Maliki came out in public in August 2012 and said the CoM voted against Shabibi and the CBI's reforms demanding he stop (that was when he ran him out of the country with the warrant), yet, there was no record of a CoM meeting or any minutes from the CoM ever stating that.
To have an article that clearly states..."..the Council of Ministers may ask the Central Bank "soon" to leave the currency auction and resorting to "float the dollar".." is absolutely awesome and confirmation that the CoM and Abadi are on board with the reforms. Hopefully as [Guru] Enorrste said we will see something very soon. Read more: www.dinarguru.com/
forestnr4: 11-10-2015 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article quote: "...staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy.
Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.” the IMF has wanted this for sometime... Read more: www.dinarguru.com/
forestnr4: Iraqis seize Canadian Forces aircraft, accuse military of moving weapons to Kurds without http://approval........www.msn.com/en-ca/news/ca...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaB
forestnr4: ‹@Doug_W› No problem. Usually I just sit quietly in the background and digest all the info. One thing for sure it does appear that there is a shift happening in a positive way. I don't think that the Iraqi train for change cannot be stopped at this point.
chattels: Great interview : Najmaldin Karim laid out his vision for getting sectarian violence under control during a wide-ranging interview at the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) offices in Washington. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaC
chattels: Al-Monitor: You say Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi isn’t part of this cabal that’s against Kirkuk. How have things changed since he has taken over from Nouri al-Maliki?
Karim: Really nothing has changed. He didn’t pick these ministers; they were handed to him and some of them are not even qualified to be ministers. I mean, according to the requirements to be a minister there are qualifications, you have to be a university graduate — they are not.
I mean, there are some who are not. I think there will be progress when the prime minister is given the power to dissolve this government and form a government that is inclusive of all communities: Sunnis, Kurds, Turkmen, Arabs, Shias.
Form a technocratic government, get rid of these party-appointed ministers, most of whom are incompetent.
I think the power that he was given by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani and the higher Shia authorities three months ago was very good, but I think [he needs] the power to pass reforms and form a new government. Then the prime minister will be responsible if this government fails or succeeds.
I think Iraq is at a standstill and it is going backwards to an extent. And by the way that same thing applies to the Kurdistan region. Same thing. The prime minister of the Kurdistan region [Nechirvan Barzani] is not picking the ministers, [they are] given to him. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrG
chattels: Al-Monitor: Given the current political situation in Baghdad and Erbil, how do you propose to fix the system? Karim: First of all, we don’t need a strong central government. But whatever government we have should have competent people in the positions.
The key to resolving these problems is to delegate power to the provinces. The eight ministries that are supposed to give their power and transfer authority are not doing so; they are refusing to do it, and not only that, they’re in such a rush, they’re afraid maybe one day they will be forced to do it [that] they are doing some irrational things.
But I’d like to tell you we are not abiding by any of those decisions; we do what we think is best for Kirkuk. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaE
chattels: Al-Monitor: What about the referendum to join the [KRG]? Is any progress being made to carry it out? Are we waiting for IS to be defeated? Are there other considerations? Karim: No, this referendum is at a standstill; nobody’s even talking about Article 140. In the previous government there was a committee headed by the minister of a Cabinet to deal with Article 140.
It was just in name and didn’t do anything actually. But at least it was there. This Cabinet hasn’t even gone that far. We believe that Kirkuk is Kurdistan — there’s no question about it. But as far as joining Kurdistan, there has to be some steps taken by the Kurdistan leaders and the Kurdish parliament as well. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTwjJ
chattels: Al-Monitor: There’s supposed to be a meeting coming up between KRG and Baghdad oil officials. Do you expect any progress on oil sharing? Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaG
chattels: Karim: Let me tell you what I expect. They go there, they meet, they make big statements and then nothing happens. That’s it. The only way to change that, like I said, we have to change the decision-makers. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrK
Doug_W: let's be positive here
chattels: This National Guard thing is not going to work in Iraq. The Shias are not going to allow it and it’s like forming another army and you will have a national army and then the army of Anbar, the army of NATO, the army of Salahuddin — that’s not going to work.
The way to do this … start to reconstitute the police force, clean up the bad ones and form a strong police force from the communities themselves. Don’t bring them from Erbil and send them to Anbar.
Don’t bring them from Basra and send them to Mosul. Have people from Mosul, from those places, and then train them, equip them and give them some decent salary so they can do their work without going [to other areas]. Al-Monitor: Isn’t that sort of the idea behind the National Guard?
Karim: The National Guard is not going to work. The Shias are not going to accept that, and even the Kurds I’m not sure. This idea of the National Guard was given to the Iraqis [by the US]. You just have this experiment where they are full time there, because they wouldn’t have any other job; that has failed before. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zqW
http://ift.tt/1SGTybp
chattels: There are four steps to " normalization " or repatriation of Iraqi territories from DAESH. 1) Defeat / ouster of militants, 2) removal of " booby traps ", 3) maintenance of liberated areas, and 4) resettlement of the displaced population
chattels: Hisham al-Suhail: Parliament soon will sponsor an international conference on national reconciliation 9/11/2015 7:04 http://ift.tt/1GNR4RF..
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrC
chattels: Sponsoring a conference is not the same as participation in or effectuation of their own national reconciliation, IMO.
Doug_W: GM gang
lonegunman: ‹@Doug_W› good morn!!
lonegunman: Time for work
lonegunman: Feel free Iraq to add value to your worthless currency...
lonegunman: At any time. !!!! Now works for me
Doug_W: what he ^^ Said
tourman: (yawn) (yawn) SUP! Ya'll?
tourman: (yawn) (Yawn) going back to bed...
Donnie: Iraqis seize Canadian Forces aircraft, accuse military of moving weapons to Kurds without approval
Donnie: Iraqi officials temporarily seized a military aircraft carrying weapons for Canadian special forces in Kurdistan, amid a wave of anti-western conspiracy theories rife in Iraqi politics. The seizure and the reasons for it raise questions for Canada’s new Liberal government, which has vowed to do more military training in the country.
The Iraqis said they held the Canadian Forces Hercules transport aircraft, carrying supplies into Kurdistan without authorization, for four days. Some Iraqis are concerned that the Kurds, who ultimately want independence for their territory, will use the support and weapons they receive from the U.S.-led coalition to eventually break away.
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1Hw7y6B...
http://ift.tt/1Sd4EUs
Donnie: Iraq Live Update @IraqLiveUpdate 54m54 minutes ago Iraq Live Update Retweeted anthony fenton Confirmed! Canada tried to ship 'Guns with silencers' to Erbil WITHOUT Iraq gov approval
Doug_W: ty Donnie
Donnie: They got some work done today:
Donnie: http://ift.tt/1Hw7y6D
Donnie: click image Donnie: it's 3:30 PM in Iraq now
disciple7: very nice disciple7: when does parliament reconvene?
disciple7: or do they have another break coming up?
*SCZIN11: ‹@disciple7› THURSDAY *SCZIN11: GOOD MORNING
forestnr4: ‹@*SCZIN11› Did you see Kap's comments from late in the day yesterday?
Doug_W: what did he say 4 ?
forestnr4: ‹@Doug_W›11-9-2015 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article quote: "the Council of Ministers may ask the Central Bank "soon" to leave the currency auction and resorting to "float the dollar" In years past, their were numerous articles that always said the Council of Ministers did not approve under the Maliki governments.
In fact, Maliki came out in public in August 2012 and said the CoM voted against Shabibi and the CBI's reforms demanding he stop (that was when he ran him out of the country with the warrant), yet, there was no record of a CoM meeting or any minutes from the CoM ever stating that.
To have an article that clearly states..."..the Council of Ministers may ask the Central Bank "soon" to leave the currency auction and resorting to "float the dollar".." is absolutely awesome and confirmation that the CoM and Abadi are on board with the reforms. Hopefully as [Guru] Enorrste said we will see something very soon. Read more: www.dinarguru.com/
forestnr4: 11-10-2015 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article quote: "...staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy.
Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.” the IMF has wanted this for sometime... Read more: www.dinarguru.com/
forestnr4: Iraqis seize Canadian Forces aircraft, accuse military of moving weapons to Kurds without http://approval........www.msn.com/en-ca/news/ca...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaB
forestnr4: ‹@Doug_W› No problem. Usually I just sit quietly in the background and digest all the info. One thing for sure it does appear that there is a shift happening in a positive way. I don't think that the Iraqi train for change cannot be stopped at this point.
chattels: Great interview : Najmaldin Karim laid out his vision for getting sectarian violence under control during a wide-ranging interview at the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) offices in Washington. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaC
chattels: Al-Monitor: You say Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi isn’t part of this cabal that’s against Kirkuk. How have things changed since he has taken over from Nouri al-Maliki?
Karim: Really nothing has changed. He didn’t pick these ministers; they were handed to him and some of them are not even qualified to be ministers. I mean, according to the requirements to be a minister there are qualifications, you have to be a university graduate — they are not.
I mean, there are some who are not. I think there will be progress when the prime minister is given the power to dissolve this government and form a government that is inclusive of all communities: Sunnis, Kurds, Turkmen, Arabs, Shias.
Form a technocratic government, get rid of these party-appointed ministers, most of whom are incompetent.
I think the power that he was given by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani and the higher Shia authorities three months ago was very good, but I think [he needs] the power to pass reforms and form a new government. Then the prime minister will be responsible if this government fails or succeeds.
I think Iraq is at a standstill and it is going backwards to an extent. And by the way that same thing applies to the Kurdistan region. Same thing. The prime minister of the Kurdistan region [Nechirvan Barzani] is not picking the ministers, [they are] given to him. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrG
chattels: Al-Monitor: Given the current political situation in Baghdad and Erbil, how do you propose to fix the system? Karim: First of all, we don’t need a strong central government. But whatever government we have should have competent people in the positions.
The key to resolving these problems is to delegate power to the provinces. The eight ministries that are supposed to give their power and transfer authority are not doing so; they are refusing to do it, and not only that, they’re in such a rush, they’re afraid maybe one day they will be forced to do it [that] they are doing some irrational things.
But I’d like to tell you we are not abiding by any of those decisions; we do what we think is best for Kirkuk. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaE
chattels: Al-Monitor: What about the referendum to join the [KRG]? Is any progress being made to carry it out? Are we waiting for IS to be defeated? Are there other considerations? Karim: No, this referendum is at a standstill; nobody’s even talking about Article 140. In the previous government there was a committee headed by the minister of a Cabinet to deal with Article 140.
It was just in name and didn’t do anything actually. But at least it was there. This Cabinet hasn’t even gone that far. We believe that Kirkuk is Kurdistan — there’s no question about it. But as far as joining Kurdistan, there has to be some steps taken by the Kurdistan leaders and the Kurdish parliament as well. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTwjJ
chattels: Al-Monitor: There’s supposed to be a meeting coming up between KRG and Baghdad oil officials. Do you expect any progress on oil sharing? Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zaG
chattels: Karim: Let me tell you what I expect. They go there, they meet, they make big statements and then nothing happens. That’s it. The only way to change that, like I said, we have to change the decision-makers. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrK
Doug_W: let's be positive here
chattels: This National Guard thing is not going to work in Iraq. The Shias are not going to allow it and it’s like forming another army and you will have a national army and then the army of Anbar, the army of NATO, the army of Salahuddin — that’s not going to work.
The way to do this … start to reconstitute the police force, clean up the bad ones and form a strong police force from the communities themselves. Don’t bring them from Erbil and send them to Anbar.
Don’t bring them from Basra and send them to Mosul. Have people from Mosul, from those places, and then train them, equip them and give them some decent salary so they can do their work without going [to other areas]. Al-Monitor: Isn’t that sort of the idea behind the National Guard?
Karim: The National Guard is not going to work. The Shias are not going to accept that, and even the Kurds I’m not sure. This idea of the National Guard was given to the Iraqis [by the US]. You just have this experiment where they are full time there, because they wouldn’t have any other job; that has failed before. Read more: http://ift.tt/1U6ADse...
http://ift.tt/1Hw7zqW
chattels: Parliament finish the first reading of the budget worth 106 trillion dinars, and to raise its the day after tomorrow.
chattels: the House of Representatives in its session held on Tuesday under the chairmanship of Salim al-President of the Council and in the presence of 230 deputies ended, the first reading of the draft federal budget for fiscal year 2016 Act, with the voice of a single law and completed the first and second readings of the three bills. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrO
chattels: In conclusion, the Council first reading of the draft general budget of the Federal Republic of Iraq for fiscal year 2016 submitted by the financial and legal committees, with an estimated revenue of $ 83 trillion and 44 billion and 803 138 000 dinars, that is calculated derived from crude oil export revenues on the basis of the average price of $ 45 per barrel and the rate of export of 3.6 million barrels of oil per day,
including 250 000 barrels per day of product quantities of crude oil in the Kurdistan region and 300 000 barrels per day on the quantities of oil exported by the province of Kirkuk. and allocated budget amount of $ 106 trillion, 165 billion, 720 million and 43 000 dinars for the expenditures for the fiscal year 2016 with total planned deficit for the federal public budget for the next fiscal year amounted to 22 trillion and 720 billion and 916 million and 905 000 dinars.
Turn the face of House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri that the Finance Committee shall gather the views of other committees to achieve the passage of a federal budget bill that holds the presidency of the House of Representatives to supervise the conduct of law.
chattels: " ........... 250 000 barrels per day of product quantities of crude oil in the Kurdistan region and 300 000 barrels per day on the quantities of oil exported by the province of Kirkuk."
Doug_W: ‹@chattels› what does this mean in English: "and to raise its the day after tomorrow." ?
Doug_W: ty in advance
Donnie: ‹@Doug_W› I believe they will read or address it again the day after tomorrow which is Thursday
Doug_W: ‹@Donnie› ty
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› to " raise " equates to suspend or adjourn until a later time
Doug_W: FRIDAY, NOV. 13 wold be a great day to R V
chattels: the House of Representatives in its session held on Tuesday under the chairmanship of Salim al-President of the Council and in the presence of 230 deputies ended, the first reading of the draft federal budget for fiscal year 2016 Act, with the voice of a single law and completed the first and second readings of the three bills. chattels: http://ift.tt/1LEwWYk...
http://ift.tt/1SGTyrO
chattels: In conclusion, the Council first reading of the draft general budget of the Federal Republic of Iraq for fiscal year 2016 submitted by the financial and legal committees, with an estimated revenue of $ 83 trillion and 44 billion and 803 138 000 dinars, that is calculated derived from crude oil export revenues on the basis of the average price of $ 45 per barrel and the rate of export of 3.6 million barrels of oil per day,
including 250 000 barrels per day of product quantities of crude oil in the Kurdistan region and 300 000 barrels per day on the quantities of oil exported by the province of Kirkuk. and allocated budget amount of $ 106 trillion, 165 billion, 720 million and 43 000 dinars for the expenditures for the fiscal year 2016 with total planned deficit for the federal public budget for the next fiscal year amounted to 22 trillion and 720 billion and 916 million and 905 000 dinars.
Turn the face of House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri that the Finance Committee shall gather the views of other committees to achieve the passage of a federal budget bill that holds the presidency of the House of Representatives to supervise the conduct of law.
chattels: " ........... 250 000 barrels per day of product quantities of crude oil in the Kurdistan region and 300 000 barrels per day on the quantities of oil exported by the province of Kirkuk."
Doug_W: ‹@chattels› what does this mean in English: "and to raise its the day after tomorrow." ?
Doug_W: ty in advance
Donnie: ‹@Doug_W› I believe they will read or address it again the day after tomorrow which is Thursday
Doug_W: ‹@Donnie› ty
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› to " raise " equates to suspend or adjourn until a later time
Doug_W: FRIDAY, NOV. 13 wold be a great day to R V
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