Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 11-14-15
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Wealthwatch Butifldrm Evening Chat 11-14-15 Part 2 of 2
Butifldrm: He said the prime minister that "the President of Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani called me two days ago and we discussed the importance of Sinjar because they cut off the road to supply terrorists between Mosul and tenderness, and the process of editing the Peshmerga participated in the Iraqi security system and the Iraqi army through the aviation as well as the lifting of mines and improvised explosive planted and Sinjar freed demolished by Iraqi We must raise the Iraqi flag in it. "
Abadi said that "there are those who speak about flags of the Kurdistan region and at the same time present a paper where all the concessions in order to withdraw the mandate," Abadi was not called this party. The prime minister said "reforms but did not target people who came to get rid of the quota system,
I have not dismissed any position without reference to the Cabinet and parliament," he said, adding "the importance of objectivity opposition voices that we listen to them and benefit from them." (End)
Butifldrm: I believe he is saying he and Barzani communicate
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New With Links & Discussion
Wealthwatch Butifldrm Evening Chat 11-14-15 Part 2 of 2
Butifldrm: He said the prime minister that "the President of Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani called me two days ago and we discussed the importance of Sinjar because they cut off the road to supply terrorists between Mosul and tenderness, and the process of editing the Peshmerga participated in the Iraqi security system and the Iraqi army through the aviation as well as the lifting of mines and improvised explosive planted and Sinjar freed demolished by Iraqi We must raise the Iraqi flag in it. "
Abadi said that "there are those who speak about flags of the Kurdistan region and at the same time present a paper where all the concessions in order to withdraw the mandate," Abadi was not called this party. The prime minister said "reforms but did not target people who came to get rid of the quota system,
I have not dismissed any position without reference to the Cabinet and parliament," he said, adding "the importance of objectivity opposition voices that we listen to them and benefit from them." (End)
Butifldrm: I believe he is saying he and Barzani communicate
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hattels: The Kurds have little intention of relinquishing control of territories redeemed with the blood of Peshmarga
Butifldrm: and that the same people who talk about the Kurds raising their victory flag in Sinjar are the same people who talk about withdrawin the mandate
chattels: The flag raising is more than symbolic to the Kurds
Butifldrm: I know that and so does Abadi Butifldrm: Sinjar is a desolute mountain
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› those in the news who are most critical of the Kurds are the same that are frustrating Abadi's reforms, eh ?
Butifldrm: the victory for the Kurds was hopefully to free the yazidi
Butifldrm: yes that's what I'm saying Butifldrm: and I believe Abadi is saying the same thing
Butifldrm: If the US were to do anything it IMO would be to arm the Kurds : take them off the terrorist list
chattels: Abadi needs the USA to funnel arms through Baghdad to support his authority and credibility with his power base, I think
chattels: at least publically
Butifldrm: ISIS' Toughest Enemy Should Be Taken Off America's Terrorist List
Butifldrm: In Syria, the American-led coalition has provided air support for the Kurdish People’s Protection Forces (YPG) as they march into the Raqqa Governate and liberate the strategically important ISIS city of Tal Abyad. So far the YPG have proved much more effective than the U.S.-created Iraqi Army which, despite their superior weapons, has been unable to mount much resistance.
But America has kept its distance from the YPG, ignoring their requests for weapons to counter the U.S.-made ones ISIS is using, preferring to gloss over the Iraqi Army’s defeats and treat the “Kurdish militias” as minor actors in the conflict. This is because the American government still thinks the YPG are terrorists. Butifldrm: http://ift.tt/1MKyOhS...
http://ift.tt/1LgwXvY
chattels: it is very complicated, eh ?
Butifldrm: Now I will say this little skirmish in Tuz complicated thing a bit dependent how you spin it
Butifldrm: yea for sure
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› ‹@Butifldrm› Tuz may be a snapshot of things to come between the militias, eh ?
Butifldrm: yes for sure
Butifldrm: I wonder if Ameri will be taken out under the findings of corruption
Butifldrm: he is as dirty as Maliki Butifldrm: once he and his minions are out of there and the Sunni's are given more military positions, things could change
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› I am waiting to see what happens with the Judiciary on a number of issues before I place too much hope on the prosecution of the corrupt - other than a few " fall guys "
chattels: Maliki said that a decision may come from the Judiciary next week on the VP's
Butifldrm: Yes I posted that article
Butifldrm: The next few weeks are going to be very interesting : Including the release of the 50k notes
chattels: My thinking is that it may be a divided decision, i.e, Abadi's declaration and subsequent acclamation by Parliament may be sufficient as to two VP positions, but that the constitution requires at least one, in which event Maliki's self serving statements to the effect that he is the 1st VP of Iraq may be very interesting.
Butifldrm: Truly I'm at a 50/50 on the judiciary decisions
Butifldrm: We have not seen the reforms in the judiciary as requested by the Government nor the clerics
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› are you convinced that Medhat is retiring this year ?
Butifldrm: If the Judiciary goes against the reforms all *** is going to break loose
Butifldrm: I would if I were him Butifldrm: But he has some serious supporters
Butifldrm: I can't help but think Iran is involved in this
chattels: Iran is a master at diplomacy - they seem to have a " win - win " strategy
chattels: at least in Iraq
Butifldrm: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1MKyQGC
Butifldrm: I often wonder what the conversation is like between Sistani and Kohmeini
chattels: The Kurdistan regional president Massoud Barzani called me two days ago and we discussed the importance of Sinjar because they cut off the road to supply terrorists between Mosul and tenderness, and the process of editing the Peshmerga participated in the Iraqi security system and the Iraqi army through the aviation as well as the lifting of mines and improvised explosive planted and Sinjar freed demolished by Iraqi and must be lifted Iraqi flag in it [ Abadi Face Book ]
chattels: Haider Al-Abadi - " The reforms did not target people but came to get rid of the quota system, I have not dismissed any position without reference to the Council of Ministers and the Parliament." [ Face Book ]
Butifldrm: yea
Butifldrm: abadi has his fingers on the pulse
Butifldrm: that is a great article
chattels: Haider Al-Abadi - " The three authorities each one does not work in isolation and there is an overlap in their work, and it was in the past there are clashing with each other, and we tried to achieve homogeneity and harmony between the executive and legislative branches and succeeded during the last term, but there are those who do not like him so " [ Face Book ]
chattels: " Kurds retake a ruined Sinjar " Kurdish forces liberated Sinjar on Friday, with a sudden burst into the city that defied the expectations of commanders who had been anticipating stiff resistance from Islamic State (IS) militants.Peshmerga fighters inside the city were jubilant,
but after 15 months under the control of IS fighters - and after dozens of air strikes by the U.S.-led coalition - the area is devastated, leaving Yezidi residents unable to return for now. : http://ift.tt/1C40NpF... LINK
Butifldrm: and that the same people who talk about the Kurds raising their victory flag in Sinjar are the same people who talk about withdrawin the mandate
chattels: The flag raising is more than symbolic to the Kurds
Butifldrm: I know that and so does Abadi Butifldrm: Sinjar is a desolute mountain
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› those in the news who are most critical of the Kurds are the same that are frustrating Abadi's reforms, eh ?
Butifldrm: the victory for the Kurds was hopefully to free the yazidi
Butifldrm: yes that's what I'm saying Butifldrm: and I believe Abadi is saying the same thing
Butifldrm: If the US were to do anything it IMO would be to arm the Kurds : take them off the terrorist list
chattels: Abadi needs the USA to funnel arms through Baghdad to support his authority and credibility with his power base, I think
chattels: at least publically
Butifldrm: ISIS' Toughest Enemy Should Be Taken Off America's Terrorist List
Butifldrm: In Syria, the American-led coalition has provided air support for the Kurdish People’s Protection Forces (YPG) as they march into the Raqqa Governate and liberate the strategically important ISIS city of Tal Abyad. So far the YPG have proved much more effective than the U.S.-created Iraqi Army which, despite their superior weapons, has been unable to mount much resistance.
But America has kept its distance from the YPG, ignoring their requests for weapons to counter the U.S.-made ones ISIS is using, preferring to gloss over the Iraqi Army’s defeats and treat the “Kurdish militias” as minor actors in the conflict. This is because the American government still thinks the YPG are terrorists. Butifldrm: http://ift.tt/1MKyOhS...
http://ift.tt/1LgwXvY
chattels: it is very complicated, eh ?
Butifldrm: Now I will say this little skirmish in Tuz complicated thing a bit dependent how you spin it
Butifldrm: yea for sure
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› ‹@Butifldrm› Tuz may be a snapshot of things to come between the militias, eh ?
Butifldrm: yes for sure
Butifldrm: I wonder if Ameri will be taken out under the findings of corruption
Butifldrm: he is as dirty as Maliki Butifldrm: once he and his minions are out of there and the Sunni's are given more military positions, things could change
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› I am waiting to see what happens with the Judiciary on a number of issues before I place too much hope on the prosecution of the corrupt - other than a few " fall guys "
chattels: Maliki said that a decision may come from the Judiciary next week on the VP's
Butifldrm: Yes I posted that article
Butifldrm: The next few weeks are going to be very interesting : Including the release of the 50k notes
chattels: My thinking is that it may be a divided decision, i.e, Abadi's declaration and subsequent acclamation by Parliament may be sufficient as to two VP positions, but that the constitution requires at least one, in which event Maliki's self serving statements to the effect that he is the 1st VP of Iraq may be very interesting.
Butifldrm: Truly I'm at a 50/50 on the judiciary decisions
Butifldrm: We have not seen the reforms in the judiciary as requested by the Government nor the clerics
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› are you convinced that Medhat is retiring this year ?
Butifldrm: If the Judiciary goes against the reforms all *** is going to break loose
Butifldrm: I would if I were him Butifldrm: But he has some serious supporters
Butifldrm: I can't help but think Iran is involved in this
chattels: Iran is a master at diplomacy - they seem to have a " win - win " strategy
chattels: at least in Iraq
Butifldrm: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
http://ift.tt/1MKyQGC
Butifldrm: I often wonder what the conversation is like between Sistani and Kohmeini
chattels: The Kurdistan regional president Massoud Barzani called me two days ago and we discussed the importance of Sinjar because they cut off the road to supply terrorists between Mosul and tenderness, and the process of editing the Peshmerga participated in the Iraqi security system and the Iraqi army through the aviation as well as the lifting of mines and improvised explosive planted and Sinjar freed demolished by Iraqi and must be lifted Iraqi flag in it [ Abadi Face Book ]
chattels: Haider Al-Abadi - " The reforms did not target people but came to get rid of the quota system, I have not dismissed any position without reference to the Council of Ministers and the Parliament." [ Face Book ]
Butifldrm: yea
Butifldrm: abadi has his fingers on the pulse
Butifldrm: that is a great article
chattels: Haider Al-Abadi - " The three authorities each one does not work in isolation and there is an overlap in their work, and it was in the past there are clashing with each other, and we tried to achieve homogeneity and harmony between the executive and legislative branches and succeeded during the last term, but there are those who do not like him so " [ Face Book ]
chattels: " Kurds retake a ruined Sinjar " Kurdish forces liberated Sinjar on Friday, with a sudden burst into the city that defied the expectations of commanders who had been anticipating stiff resistance from Islamic State (IS) militants.Peshmerga fighters inside the city were jubilant,
but after 15 months under the control of IS fighters - and after dozens of air strikes by the U.S.-led coalition - the area is devastated, leaving Yezidi residents unable to return for now. : http://ift.tt/1C40NpF... LINK
Butifldrm: Wow you don't read this in the mainstream
Butifldrm: The Christians and the Yezidi are in a bad spot in Iraq
BOBBY: Butifldrm...... evening..... they have been for awhile
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› Barzani proposed provincial status for Shingal.
BOBBY: nothing short or persucution
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Amid recent tensions between Kurdish forces and Shiite militia in Tuz Khurmatu, locals reported Saturday that the militiamen had torched peoples homes and shops in several parts of the town. “Over the past two days, several Kurdish people's homes and shops have been burned down by the Hashd al-Shaabi in Tuz Khurmatu neighborhoods, including Askari, Ten, and downtown Khurmatu,” an eyewitness who didn’t want to be named, told Rudaw.
Kurdish Peshmerga and security forces in Khurmatu, 80 KM south of Kirkuk, clashed with the Shiite militia known as Hashd al-Shaabi last week where several people were killed on both sides and many injured. Rudaw has learned that Peshmerga and Shiite militia representatives in the area, including the mayor of Khurmatu, are holding talks to prevent further escalation of violence.
Fighting broke out on Friday when a militia convoy allegedly refused to stop at a checkpoint manned by Kurdish forces, resulting in a firefight that left three Peshmerga and two militiamen dead.
A Rudaw correspondent in the area said that the Peshmerga stopped reinforcements of the Dijla Operation command of Abdul Amir Zaidi from entering the town. “The situation of Tuz Khurmatu is calm now, and a siege on Tuz Khurmatu security [Asayish] building by the Hashd al-Shaabi has been lifted,” said Rudaw's Hiwa Husamadin.
On Friday Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Kurdish President Masoud Barzani, Iraqi president Fuad Masum and militia leader Hadi al-Amiri to work towards ending the conflict between the Peshmerga and Hashd al-Shaabi. http://ift.tt/1fx9D4E;
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chattels: ‹@BOBBY› genocide
Butifldrm: Guys you know I love ya but I have to do some laundry. Love y'all
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› Great articles
chattels: It must be called genocide, then the world must act By Paul Davis http://ift.tt/1NAf9yX... http://ift.tt/1HOL1ga
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