[jwsat] What about credit unions? Would they be a better option?
[pokerbrat] Jester lets say RV happens and someone cashes out in Canada?
[peachestenn] Jester could it be possible that Panama is going back to its own currency because when the global reset does occur it has enough natural resources to support its currency where in the fiat system it could not compete
[citizensoldier] Jester The RI/RV of the IQD/N and subsequent exchange into USD/FRN that is then put on a bank's book balance as fresh deposits should strengthen a bank not make it weaker.
[Grunt0311] IF IT GOES THE HARD WAY, YOU WILL WANT CASH ON HAND...
[Jester] jwsat PROBABLY... SINCE THEY ARE LARGELY INDEPENDENT FROM THE SYSTEM... BUT THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH CASH ON HAND SO COULD ALSO BE IN TROUBLE IF THERE IS A RUN....
[Jester] peachestenn IT IS POSSIBLE... I WOULD LIKE FOR RED WOLF TO WEIGH IN ON THAT THOUGH... SO I WILL ASK HIM IN THE MORNING TO GET HIS TAKE ON IT...
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[pokerbrat] Jester lets say RV happens and someone cashes out in Canada?
[peachestenn] Jester could it be possible that Panama is going back to its own currency because when the global reset does occur it has enough natural resources to support its currency where in the fiat system it could not compete
[citizensoldier] Jester The RI/RV of the IQD/N and subsequent exchange into USD/FRN that is then put on a bank's book balance as fresh deposits should strengthen a bank not make it weaker.
[Grunt0311] IF IT GOES THE HARD WAY, YOU WILL WANT CASH ON HAND...
[Jester] jwsat PROBABLY... SINCE THEY ARE LARGELY INDEPENDENT FROM THE SYSTEM... BUT THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH CASH ON HAND SO COULD ALSO BE IN TROUBLE IF THERE IS A RUN....
[Jester] peachestenn IT IS POSSIBLE... I WOULD LIKE FOR RED WOLF TO WEIGH IN ON THAT THOUGH... SO I WILL ASK HIM IN THE MORNING TO GET HIS TAKE ON IT...
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[BocaLinda] Jester bit wouldn't the money be worthless?
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHEN THE RESET HAPPENS, YOU ADD A POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE WHICH = 0. AT THAT POINT, ANY CASH YOU HAVE ON HAND IS WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO EXCHANGE FOR THE UST NOTES.
[Jester] citizensoldier THE WHOLE POINT OF IT GETTING TO THAT SCENARIO IS TO KEEP THE CABAL FROM BENEFITING... IT DOES NOT WORK BOTH WAYS...
[citizensoldier] Jester That is a tough shot.
[Jester] BocaLinda NOPE... BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HAND.... AND IT WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BE USED AND/OR TRADED FOR UST....
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 Ah! Thx
[Jester] LOOK... TWO OPTIONS ARE IN THE WORKS... WITH PERMUTATIONS OF EACH BUT LETS JUST STAY WITH THE TWO...
[Jester] THE EASY WAY... THEY GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL TO THEIR SATISFACTION AND EVERYTHING PROCEEDS THE WAY IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED... NEW SYSTEM IS ALLOWED TO RESET AND EVERYTHING WORKS OUT LOVELY...
[Jester] THE HARD WAY... THEY CANNOT GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL... SO THEY BANKRUPT THE SYSTEM AND IT CRASHES TO TAKE THEM OUT... BUT THEY WILL NOT RESET BEFOREHAND BECAUSE THEN THE CABAL COULD REFINANCE THEIR DOINGS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT...
[Jester] THE REASON WE HAVE NOT HAD A RESET IS SIMPLE FOLKS... THEY HAVE NOT GOT TO THE POINT OF BEING SATISFIED THEY CAN WITHOUT LETTING THE CABAL BACK INTO THE GAME...
[peachestenn] Jester zap seems to be under the understanding that the cabal has struck some type of deal where they get to stay in business but without their power or something close to that effect
[Jester] peachestenn WE'LL SEE IF THAT IS TRUE... HIS PERSPECTIVE IS FROM THE CHINESE SIDE... I AM NOT SO SURE THAT THEY ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF THAT DECISION...
[Hannah] Jester My gut feeling is that we will have a hard landing. You too?
[sb481] Jester how long will the banks be down if they go with the hard way? Will it be an electronic transaction and only last minutes or could it go on for days and weeks? Thanks!
[Jester] sb481 IF THEY FAIL IT IS THE END OF THEM... NO WAY TO COME BACK...
[farmer in the dell] Jester in your opinion will mortgages be forgiven if we go the hard way?
[sb481] Jester gotcha now....thanks!
[Grunt0311] Hannah BE PREPARED FOR THE HARD WAY AND HOPE THAT THE EASY WAY IS THE RESULT.
[Jester] farmer in the dell IF THEY ARE IN THE BANKS THAT FAILS THEY WILL...
[citizensoldier] Grunt0311 Jester I think your nicknames will be 'Doom" & "Gloom"
[Jester] citizensoldier WELL... I GOT THAT TITLE THE END OF LAST MONTH... HAHAH... WE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME ON THE EASY WAY... I SURE HOPE THEY CAN GET THAT DONE... THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A DEADLINE ON IT... SO WE ARE WAITING AND WATCHING...
[Grunt0311] citizensoldier LOL - THE FUNNY PART ABOUT THAT IS HOW OPTIMISTIC I AM, FOLLOWED BY THE SMILE THAT IS NORMALLY PLASTERED ACROSS MY FACE.
[citizensoldier] Jester Grunt0311 Youze boyz is me broze
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 lets talk about how we can prepare for the hard way, hypothetically what can we expect? Like a bullet list or something
[Grunt0311] peachestenn I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A BULLET LIST, BUT FOOD & WATER WILL ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT... AFTER THAT DECIDE IF YOU WANT/NEED ELECTRICITY OR NOT, AND GO FROM THERE.
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 any would electricity go out if it nil is off for the month? What an I missing?
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 geeezzz life is to complicated to shift into that mode of thinking blah...somebody used the term LIMBO in here earlier and there has been way too much of that going on in recent months
[Jester] SEE... THE OTHER THING YOU DON'T KNOW... AND I DON'T GUESS THERE IS ANY PARTICULAR REASON IT CANNOT BE TOLD... IT JUST NEVER CAME UP... IS THIS... EVEN WITH THE HARD WAY... THEY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO FUND ALL SORTS OF HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS TO GET THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT PRETTY QUICK... SO LETS ASSUME THAT IT HAPPENS THAT WAY... A HUGE INFUSION BACK INTO THE SYSTEM WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER TO GET THINGS MOVING AGAIN....
[Grunt0311] Jester YES, THIS IS TRUE.
[BocaLinda] Good news!
[Hannah] That makes me feel a little better.
[peachestenn] Jester it would seem more logical for the infusion to come from our generating the economy with our new wealth
[Jester] THEIR PLAN IS TO DO ALL THIS WITH AS LITTLE PAIN AS POSSIBLE... THEY DO CARE...
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda peachestenn SEE, YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN ME ON HERE AS MUCH BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON DISCONNECTING A BIT FROM THE ELECTRONIC WORLD AND CONNECTING A BIT MORE WITH THE "REAL WORLD". IN MY OPINION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US.
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 I have been doing the same in many ways
[Grunt0311] Devo CRASH THE BANKS, THEN RV...
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 but why would electricity go off?
[Jester] angelheart FOR YOU IT WOULD... BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS... IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET YOUR MONEY THE SYSTEM HAS TO RESET... WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT... YOU GETTING YOUR MONEY OR MAKING SURE THE CABAL CANNOT COME BACK ON YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AFTER THE FACT AND DO THE SAME THING TO THEM....
[Jester] angelheart SORRY... THAT WAS MEANT FOR peachestenn
[pokerbrat] So why not root for government shut down, cabal shutdown and reset the whole dang thing?? just askin
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda COULD GO OFF, NOT WILL NECESSARILY. WE HAVE A GENERATOR HERE FOR THOSE TIMES WHEN IT DOES GO OFF.
[peachestenn] so we may not be here tomorrow or the next day to converse...I will miss these talks I gain good information to ponder from here
[angelheart] Grunt0311 I love it when we lose electricity for a week. Lol. It's a true story. I live in a jungle. It's wonderful when you don't have to answer to anyone. I'm sure someone on the other end doesn't think so. Bahahahaha
[sillycindy] the cabal not being able to get it
[Grunt0311] angelheart EXACTLY!! LOL
[peachestenn] Jester oh yeah the wait is well worth it its not about money any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Jester] Devo THE RV WILL NOT CRASH THE BANKS... SHEESH.. WE BEEN OVER THIS... IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT YOUR MONEY... IT IS ABOUT WHO WILL REMAIN IN CHARGE OF WHAT AFTER...
[Jester] pokerbrat AND NOT A BAD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT... JUST BE PREPARED FOR IT... THAT'S ALL...
[angelheart] Jester no problem. I'll take that too.
[Jester] peachestenn WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING HERE... I PLAN ON BEING HERE... I AM PLANNING ON IT...
[Redeye] Jester. Do you think there will be accountability for those that do not cooperate and cause the crash.
[peachestenn] Jester if this leans towards the govt shutdown or worse, hence the need for such preparations, we may not have the internet or electric and so on...
[pokerbrat] I feel I am somewhat prepared. Thanks to you guy as well. No one else is suggesting it. So I'm sure it is possible just on that fact.
[kristi] I know that FEMA is a bad word, but they have a nationwide program called CERT Citizens Emergency Response Team. I have gone through it and because of it, have become fairly prepared in order to take care of my invalid mother and myself. I live in earthquake country and they are saying if the big one hits it could be 14 to 21 days before First Responders can help. So we are as prepared as can be. Looking at a little Honda generator next.
[Jester] Redeye I DO.... I THINK THAT WILL PART OF IT...
[Jester] IF WE GO THE HARD WAY I THINK YOU MAY BE SEEING SOME OF WHAT HAPPENED IN ICELAND IN 2008... IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT THEN TAKE A PEEK...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4Z3rm4r-4
[peachestenn] Jester that was ultimately a really good thing for that country and it would be for ours in years to come
[Jester] peachestenn WELL THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CONTROL ALL THAT... IT IS PRIVATE COMPANIES... SO I DON'T SEE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD...
[Grunt0311] THANKS FOR BEING HERE EVERYONE!!
[Jester] UMMM... THE ROOM WAS EXTENDED FORM LAST NIGHT AND SINCE THE DISCUSSION WAS SO GOOD I DID NOT CHANGE IT BACK...
[Grunt0311] SWEET!
[justbelieve7] Jester Well thanks...it was another good night!
[Jester] I MAY NEED A DING DONG TO GET ME THROUGH... HAHAHAHA....
[peachestenn] Jester hostess is out of business
[Jester] I ONLY HAVE A FEW LEFT AND I AM RATIONING THEM NOW... LOL
[Betsy Ross] peachestenn They're back
[peachestenn] Jester wow how funny my son actually has a real twinkie yesterday and was saving it too
[Jester] peachestenn YEAH? AND I WAS PREPARED... I BOUGHT ALL I COULD FIND FOR A FEW WEEKS AND PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER.... HAHAHAHA....
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311Jester the govt shutdown and bank crash Are not necessarily timed at the same time correct?
[Jester] BocaLinda NOT NECESSARILY.... THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN COULD HAPPEN TUESDAY..
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/29/20743313-chances-of-averting-government-shutdown-appear-slim?lite
[BocaLinda] That's what i thought. They don't have anything to do with each other except in roundabout way...
[angelheart] Tuesday sounds like a go...no one is budging to make it a stay
[Jester] THEY WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS ALL DOOM AND GLOOM AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND ALL THAT WILL BE SHUT DOWN... IT ISN'T SO... ARM YOURSELF WITH THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL NOT BE SO FREAKED OUT...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/29/20745618-a-government-shutdown-what-could-it-look-like?lite
[farmer in the dell] Jester Do you really feel they need freezing?Probably have enough preservatives to still be good till Easter lol
[Jester] farmer in the dell ACTUALLY THEY ARE IN MY EXTRA REFRIGERATOR DOWNSTAIRS.... HAHAHAH....
[Jester] Social Security and Medicare benefits would keep coming, but there could be delays in processing new disability applications. Unemployment benefits would still go out.
[Jester] MAIL Deliveries would continue as usual because the U.S. Postal Service receives no tax dollars for day-to-day operations. It relies on income from stamps and other postal fees to keep running.
[Jester] MY FAVORITE.... GOOD AND BAD... HAHAHAHA.... TAXES Americans would still have to pay their taxes and file federal tax returns, but the Internal Revenue Service says it would suspend all audits. Got questions? Sorry, the IRS says taxpayer services, including toll-free help lines, would be shut as well.
[Redeye] Jester. We are now in overtime. What can you tell us that will come out sooner or later but still not jeopardize the outcome.
[Jester] Redeye WE DO NOT HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION ON ANYTHING BUT THE POSSIBILITIES... THE LONGER IT DRAGS OUT THE CLOSER IT IS GETTING TO THE HARD WAY... THAT IS ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU...
[Redeye] Thank you.
[peachestenn] Jester I went to the State of TN website to see if there are any indications of a looming shutdown and the entire website is down...uhmmmm
[Jester] peachestenn I JUST GOT IN.... http://www.tn.gov/
[HenryGeorge] Ron Paul: "Despite all the hand-wringing heard in DC, a short-term government shut down (which doesn’t actually shut down the government) will not cause the country to collapse. And the American people would benefit if Obamacare was defeated or even delayed."
[HenryGeorge] Jester So ae you encouraged that Zap said there was a truce of sorts with the cabal?
[Jester] HenryGeorge WE DISCUSSED THAT PREVIOUSLY... I BELIEVE HIS VIEWPOINT IS FROM THE CHINESE SIDE... WHAT THEY THINK IN OTHER WORDS... NOT SURE THEY ARE THE ONES COMPLETELY IN CHARGE..
[HenryGeorge] Jester thx. I am looking forward to reading the chat transcript
[WeRCurious] Jester, Isn't President Obama going to do exactly what President Clinton did with the government being "shut down" for a 17 day "pretend battle" over the budget...then Voila...a balanced budget, a surplus, and a legacy...all from the Kuwait reval...???? I mean, this IS politics after all !
[Grunt0311] WeRCurious LOL
[Jester] WeRCurious IT IS POSSIBLE... IT MIGHT LOOK THAT WAY IN THE END... BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON IF THEY CAN REALLY GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL...
[WeRCurious] As Sam Clemens said..."Politics is theatre for ugly people!"
[WeRCurious] Thanks, GRUNT !
[Grunt0311] WeRCurious PERHAPS THAT IS WHY I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THEATRE.
[angelheart] I think all in all it will sort itself out and we won't even remember it because life will be so good when it's over. Just hang onto your hay as the wind blows. (Wink)
[Jester] angelheart I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT... IT IS NOT LIKE EVERYTHING IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY WILL SHUT OFF LIKE A LIGHT SWITCH... BUT THERE AGAIN... BEING PREPARED WILL MAKE IT THAT MUCH EASIER....
[HenryGeorge] Jester I notice you are now sounding like you like sooner better than later. Seems like a shift in your stance.
[HenryGeorge] Jester meaning sooner = easy, later = hard way
[Jester] HenryGeorge THAT IS ON YOU... WE BEEN SAYING END OF OCTOBER FIRST OF NOVEMBER FOR SOME TIME HAVE WE NOT? SO THE FACT THAT THE TIMELINE IS GETTING CLOSER ONLY GIVES YOU THAT IMPRESSION BECAUSE IT IS CLOSER TO IT...
[HenryGeorge] Jester Yes, but I always got the "as long as it takes" to makes sure the bad guys can't re-fuel --from you. Now, not so much.
[Jester] HenryGeorge I WILL SAY IT AGAIN THEN... AS LONG AS THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE... AND AT SOME POINT THEY WILL JUST DO IT... ONE WAY OR THE OTHER... BECAUSE THEY CANNOT WAIT FOREVER...
[HenryGeorge] Jester but sooner is more likely to be "easy way" and later is more likely to be "hard way", correct? Just trying to understand.
[Jester] HenryGeorge YOU ARE READING WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR INTO MY WORDS... PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT... THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT THE EASY WAY... HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME... AND IF THEY CAN GET IT DONE TO THEIR SATISFACTION THEN FINE... IF NOT THEN... THEY WILL DO IT THE HARD WAY....
[BocaLinda] HenryGeorge I think we are already I'm the later window...
[HenryGeorge] BocaLinda its feeling that way. and looking less likely to be smooth to my outsider eyes.
[Grunt0311] I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS... I AM TOLD THERE ARE SOME MAJOR CHANGES COMING IN JANUARY... PERHAPS AS EARLY AS JANUARY 1ST. HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT IS COMING, AND KNOW HOW IT WILL AFFECT CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR HOPES/DREAMS IN DINAR LAND. AS SUCH, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION FOR US TO START SEEING REAL WORLD CHANGES HAPPENING PRIOR TO... SO, THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WILL BE VERY TELLING. I WISH I COULD SHARE MORE ON THAT, BUT I HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF SOME OF MY INFO.
[peachestenn] it feels like there is some kind of pivot point we are experiencing as the coming week unfolds, and everything Jester is saying and the news that is coming out also points to this as well
[Jester] peachestenn THERE IS A TURNING POINT... BUT I DO THINK IT WILL BE A LITTLE LONGER DOWN THE ROAD... LIKE I SAID.... END OF OCTOBER FIRST OF NOVEMBER IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING...
[Grunt0311] OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WILL BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MONTHS.
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 I will like for you to share more
[kristi] Grunt0311: Now that is like putting a present out and saying don't touch until Christmas! Sure makes you wonder where to put your money when it does RV
[Jester] BocaLinda HE CAN'T...
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda I WOULD CERTAINLY SHARE MORE IF I COULD RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME OF IT HAS TO UNFOLD BEFORE I DO SO
[Redeye] If they have had their resources seized then wisdom has flown out the window. So much for picking your battles.
[Grunt0311] Redeye THE CABAL ACCOUNTS HAVE INDEED BEEN FROZEN FOR A WHILE NOW, AND ALL TRADING WITHIN THE U.S. WAS CUT OFF ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
[Grunt0311] Redeye TRADING IS HOW THE CABAL GREW THEIR WEALTH.
[llgall] Grunt, are you alluding to the IRS going away & a new tax structure?
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 trading stocks?
[HenryGeorge] Jester I am thinking that the cabal is stringing the Chinese families along, letting them think they are close to victory when they have many hidden assets and plans to rebuild
[Jester] LIKE I TOLD YOU GUYS BEFORE... THERE WILL BE SOME VERY VISIBLE INDICATORS... AND IT WILL BE A DOMINO EFFECT... HAVE SAID BEFORE... WATCH THE DEUTSCHE BANK... THAT IS THE FIRST KEY...
[Grunt0311] llgall NOPE, I AM REFERRING TO BIGGER PICTURE STUFF.
[Jester] OOPS... TIME TO GO.... YOU ALL TAKE CARE...
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHEN THE RESET HAPPENS, YOU ADD A POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE WHICH = 0. AT THAT POINT, ANY CASH YOU HAVE ON HAND IS WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO EXCHANGE FOR THE UST NOTES.
[Jester] citizensoldier THE WHOLE POINT OF IT GETTING TO THAT SCENARIO IS TO KEEP THE CABAL FROM BENEFITING... IT DOES NOT WORK BOTH WAYS...
[citizensoldier] Jester That is a tough shot.
[Jester] BocaLinda NOPE... BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HAND.... AND IT WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BE USED AND/OR TRADED FOR UST....
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 Ah! Thx
[Jester] LOOK... TWO OPTIONS ARE IN THE WORKS... WITH PERMUTATIONS OF EACH BUT LETS JUST STAY WITH THE TWO...
[Jester] THE EASY WAY... THEY GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL TO THEIR SATISFACTION AND EVERYTHING PROCEEDS THE WAY IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED... NEW SYSTEM IS ALLOWED TO RESET AND EVERYTHING WORKS OUT LOVELY...
[Jester] THE HARD WAY... THEY CANNOT GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL... SO THEY BANKRUPT THE SYSTEM AND IT CRASHES TO TAKE THEM OUT... BUT THEY WILL NOT RESET BEFOREHAND BECAUSE THEN THE CABAL COULD REFINANCE THEIR DOINGS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT...
[Jester] THE REASON WE HAVE NOT HAD A RESET IS SIMPLE FOLKS... THEY HAVE NOT GOT TO THE POINT OF BEING SATISFIED THEY CAN WITHOUT LETTING THE CABAL BACK INTO THE GAME...
[peachestenn] Jester zap seems to be under the understanding that the cabal has struck some type of deal where they get to stay in business but without their power or something close to that effect
[Jester] peachestenn WE'LL SEE IF THAT IS TRUE... HIS PERSPECTIVE IS FROM THE CHINESE SIDE... I AM NOT SO SURE THAT THEY ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF THAT DECISION...
[Hannah] Jester My gut feeling is that we will have a hard landing. You too?
[sb481] Jester how long will the banks be down if they go with the hard way? Will it be an electronic transaction and only last minutes or could it go on for days and weeks? Thanks!
[Jester] sb481 IF THEY FAIL IT IS THE END OF THEM... NO WAY TO COME BACK...
[farmer in the dell] Jester in your opinion will mortgages be forgiven if we go the hard way?
[sb481] Jester gotcha now....thanks!
[Grunt0311] Hannah BE PREPARED FOR THE HARD WAY AND HOPE THAT THE EASY WAY IS THE RESULT.
[Jester] farmer in the dell IF THEY ARE IN THE BANKS THAT FAILS THEY WILL...
[citizensoldier] Grunt0311 Jester I think your nicknames will be 'Doom" & "Gloom"
[Jester] citizensoldier WELL... I GOT THAT TITLE THE END OF LAST MONTH... HAHAH... WE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME ON THE EASY WAY... I SURE HOPE THEY CAN GET THAT DONE... THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A DEADLINE ON IT... SO WE ARE WAITING AND WATCHING...
[Grunt0311] citizensoldier LOL - THE FUNNY PART ABOUT THAT IS HOW OPTIMISTIC I AM, FOLLOWED BY THE SMILE THAT IS NORMALLY PLASTERED ACROSS MY FACE.
[citizensoldier] Jester Grunt0311 Youze boyz is me broze
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 lets talk about how we can prepare for the hard way, hypothetically what can we expect? Like a bullet list or something
[Grunt0311] peachestenn I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A BULLET LIST, BUT FOOD & WATER WILL ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT... AFTER THAT DECIDE IF YOU WANT/NEED ELECTRICITY OR NOT, AND GO FROM THERE.
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 any would electricity go out if it nil is off for the month? What an I missing?
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 geeezzz life is to complicated to shift into that mode of thinking blah...somebody used the term LIMBO in here earlier and there has been way too much of that going on in recent months
[Jester] SEE... THE OTHER THING YOU DON'T KNOW... AND I DON'T GUESS THERE IS ANY PARTICULAR REASON IT CANNOT BE TOLD... IT JUST NEVER CAME UP... IS THIS... EVEN WITH THE HARD WAY... THEY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO FUND ALL SORTS OF HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS TO GET THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT PRETTY QUICK... SO LETS ASSUME THAT IT HAPPENS THAT WAY... A HUGE INFUSION BACK INTO THE SYSTEM WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER TO GET THINGS MOVING AGAIN....
[Grunt0311] Jester YES, THIS IS TRUE.
[BocaLinda] Good news!
[Hannah] That makes me feel a little better.
[peachestenn] Jester it would seem more logical for the infusion to come from our generating the economy with our new wealth
[Jester] THEIR PLAN IS TO DO ALL THIS WITH AS LITTLE PAIN AS POSSIBLE... THEY DO CARE...
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda peachestenn SEE, YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN ME ON HERE AS MUCH BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON DISCONNECTING A BIT FROM THE ELECTRONIC WORLD AND CONNECTING A BIT MORE WITH THE "REAL WORLD". IN MY OPINION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US.
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 I have been doing the same in many ways
[Grunt0311] Devo CRASH THE BANKS, THEN RV...
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 but why would electricity go off?
[Jester] angelheart FOR YOU IT WOULD... BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS... IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET YOUR MONEY THE SYSTEM HAS TO RESET... WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT... YOU GETTING YOUR MONEY OR MAKING SURE THE CABAL CANNOT COME BACK ON YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AFTER THE FACT AND DO THE SAME THING TO THEM....
[Jester] angelheart SORRY... THAT WAS MEANT FOR peachestenn
[pokerbrat] So why not root for government shut down, cabal shutdown and reset the whole dang thing?? just askin
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda COULD GO OFF, NOT WILL NECESSARILY. WE HAVE A GENERATOR HERE FOR THOSE TIMES WHEN IT DOES GO OFF.
[peachestenn] so we may not be here tomorrow or the next day to converse...I will miss these talks I gain good information to ponder from here
[angelheart] Grunt0311 I love it when we lose electricity for a week. Lol. It's a true story. I live in a jungle. It's wonderful when you don't have to answer to anyone. I'm sure someone on the other end doesn't think so. Bahahahaha
[sillycindy] the cabal not being able to get it
[Grunt0311] angelheart EXACTLY!! LOL
[peachestenn] Jester oh yeah the wait is well worth it its not about money any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Jester] Devo THE RV WILL NOT CRASH THE BANKS... SHEESH.. WE BEEN OVER THIS... IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT YOUR MONEY... IT IS ABOUT WHO WILL REMAIN IN CHARGE OF WHAT AFTER...
[Jester] pokerbrat AND NOT A BAD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT... JUST BE PREPARED FOR IT... THAT'S ALL...
[angelheart] Jester no problem. I'll take that too.
[Jester] peachestenn WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING HERE... I PLAN ON BEING HERE... I AM PLANNING ON IT...
[Redeye] Jester. Do you think there will be accountability for those that do not cooperate and cause the crash.
[peachestenn] Jester if this leans towards the govt shutdown or worse, hence the need for such preparations, we may not have the internet or electric and so on...
[pokerbrat] I feel I am somewhat prepared. Thanks to you guy as well. No one else is suggesting it. So I'm sure it is possible just on that fact.
[kristi] I know that FEMA is a bad word, but they have a nationwide program called CERT Citizens Emergency Response Team. I have gone through it and because of it, have become fairly prepared in order to take care of my invalid mother and myself. I live in earthquake country and they are saying if the big one hits it could be 14 to 21 days before First Responders can help. So we are as prepared as can be. Looking at a little Honda generator next.
[Jester] Redeye I DO.... I THINK THAT WILL PART OF IT...
[Jester] IF WE GO THE HARD WAY I THINK YOU MAY BE SEEING SOME OF WHAT HAPPENED IN ICELAND IN 2008... IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT THEN TAKE A PEEK...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4Z3rm4r-4
[peachestenn] Jester that was ultimately a really good thing for that country and it would be for ours in years to come
[Jester] peachestenn WELL THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CONTROL ALL THAT... IT IS PRIVATE COMPANIES... SO I DON'T SEE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD...
[Grunt0311] THANKS FOR BEING HERE EVERYONE!!
[Jester] UMMM... THE ROOM WAS EXTENDED FORM LAST NIGHT AND SINCE THE DISCUSSION WAS SO GOOD I DID NOT CHANGE IT BACK...
[Grunt0311] SWEET!
[justbelieve7] Jester Well thanks...it was another good night!
[Jester] I MAY NEED A DING DONG TO GET ME THROUGH... HAHAHAHA....
[peachestenn] Jester hostess is out of business
[Jester] I ONLY HAVE A FEW LEFT AND I AM RATIONING THEM NOW... LOL
[Betsy Ross] peachestenn They're back
[peachestenn] Jester wow how funny my son actually has a real twinkie yesterday and was saving it too
[Jester] peachestenn YEAH? AND I WAS PREPARED... I BOUGHT ALL I COULD FIND FOR A FEW WEEKS AND PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER.... HAHAHAHA....
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311Jester the govt shutdown and bank crash Are not necessarily timed at the same time correct?
[Jester] BocaLinda NOT NECESSARILY.... THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN COULD HAPPEN TUESDAY..
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/29/20743313-chances-of-averting-government-shutdown-appear-slim?lite
[BocaLinda] That's what i thought. They don't have anything to do with each other except in roundabout way...
[angelheart] Tuesday sounds like a go...no one is budging to make it a stay
[Jester] THEY WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS ALL DOOM AND GLOOM AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND ALL THAT WILL BE SHUT DOWN... IT ISN'T SO... ARM YOURSELF WITH THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL NOT BE SO FREAKED OUT...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/29/20745618-a-government-shutdown-what-could-it-look-like?lite
[farmer in the dell] Jester Do you really feel they need freezing?Probably have enough preservatives to still be good till Easter lol
[Jester] farmer in the dell ACTUALLY THEY ARE IN MY EXTRA REFRIGERATOR DOWNSTAIRS.... HAHAHAH....
[Jester] Social Security and Medicare benefits would keep coming, but there could be delays in processing new disability applications. Unemployment benefits would still go out.
[Jester] MAIL Deliveries would continue as usual because the U.S. Postal Service receives no tax dollars for day-to-day operations. It relies on income from stamps and other postal fees to keep running.
[Jester] MY FAVORITE.... GOOD AND BAD... HAHAHAHA.... TAXES Americans would still have to pay their taxes and file federal tax returns, but the Internal Revenue Service says it would suspend all audits. Got questions? Sorry, the IRS says taxpayer services, including toll-free help lines, would be shut as well.
[Redeye] Jester. We are now in overtime. What can you tell us that will come out sooner or later but still not jeopardize the outcome.
[Jester] Redeye WE DO NOT HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION ON ANYTHING BUT THE POSSIBILITIES... THE LONGER IT DRAGS OUT THE CLOSER IT IS GETTING TO THE HARD WAY... THAT IS ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU...
[Redeye] Thank you.
[peachestenn] Jester I went to the State of TN website to see if there are any indications of a looming shutdown and the entire website is down...uhmmmm
[Jester] peachestenn I JUST GOT IN.... http://www.tn.gov/
[HenryGeorge] Ron Paul: "Despite all the hand-wringing heard in DC, a short-term government shut down (which doesn’t actually shut down the government) will not cause the country to collapse. And the American people would benefit if Obamacare was defeated or even delayed."
[HenryGeorge] Jester So ae you encouraged that Zap said there was a truce of sorts with the cabal?
[Jester] HenryGeorge WE DISCUSSED THAT PREVIOUSLY... I BELIEVE HIS VIEWPOINT IS FROM THE CHINESE SIDE... WHAT THEY THINK IN OTHER WORDS... NOT SURE THEY ARE THE ONES COMPLETELY IN CHARGE..
[HenryGeorge] Jester thx. I am looking forward to reading the chat transcript
[WeRCurious] Jester, Isn't President Obama going to do exactly what President Clinton did with the government being "shut down" for a 17 day "pretend battle" over the budget...then Voila...a balanced budget, a surplus, and a legacy...all from the Kuwait reval...???? I mean, this IS politics after all !
[Grunt0311] WeRCurious LOL
[Jester] WeRCurious IT IS POSSIBLE... IT MIGHT LOOK THAT WAY IN THE END... BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON IF THEY CAN REALLY GET THE CABAL UNDER CONTROL...
[WeRCurious] As Sam Clemens said..."Politics is theatre for ugly people!"
[WeRCurious] Thanks, GRUNT !
[Grunt0311] WeRCurious PERHAPS THAT IS WHY I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THEATRE.
[angelheart] I think all in all it will sort itself out and we won't even remember it because life will be so good when it's over. Just hang onto your hay as the wind blows. (Wink)
[Jester] angelheart I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT... IT IS NOT LIKE EVERYTHING IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY WILL SHUT OFF LIKE A LIGHT SWITCH... BUT THERE AGAIN... BEING PREPARED WILL MAKE IT THAT MUCH EASIER....
[HenryGeorge] Jester I notice you are now sounding like you like sooner better than later. Seems like a shift in your stance.
[HenryGeorge] Jester meaning sooner = easy, later = hard way
[Jester] HenryGeorge THAT IS ON YOU... WE BEEN SAYING END OF OCTOBER FIRST OF NOVEMBER FOR SOME TIME HAVE WE NOT? SO THE FACT THAT THE TIMELINE IS GETTING CLOSER ONLY GIVES YOU THAT IMPRESSION BECAUSE IT IS CLOSER TO IT...
[HenryGeorge] Jester Yes, but I always got the "as long as it takes" to makes sure the bad guys can't re-fuel --from you. Now, not so much.
[Jester] HenryGeorge I WILL SAY IT AGAIN THEN... AS LONG AS THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE... AND AT SOME POINT THEY WILL JUST DO IT... ONE WAY OR THE OTHER... BECAUSE THEY CANNOT WAIT FOREVER...
[HenryGeorge] Jester but sooner is more likely to be "easy way" and later is more likely to be "hard way", correct? Just trying to understand.
[Jester] HenryGeorge YOU ARE READING WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR INTO MY WORDS... PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT... THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT THE EASY WAY... HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME... AND IF THEY CAN GET IT DONE TO THEIR SATISFACTION THEN FINE... IF NOT THEN... THEY WILL DO IT THE HARD WAY....
[BocaLinda] HenryGeorge I think we are already I'm the later window...
[HenryGeorge] BocaLinda its feeling that way. and looking less likely to be smooth to my outsider eyes.
[Grunt0311] I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS... I AM TOLD THERE ARE SOME MAJOR CHANGES COMING IN JANUARY... PERHAPS AS EARLY AS JANUARY 1ST. HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT IS COMING, AND KNOW HOW IT WILL AFFECT CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR HOPES/DREAMS IN DINAR LAND. AS SUCH, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION FOR US TO START SEEING REAL WORLD CHANGES HAPPENING PRIOR TO... SO, THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WILL BE VERY TELLING. I WISH I COULD SHARE MORE ON THAT, BUT I HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF SOME OF MY INFO.
[peachestenn] it feels like there is some kind of pivot point we are experiencing as the coming week unfolds, and everything Jester is saying and the news that is coming out also points to this as well
[Jester] peachestenn THERE IS A TURNING POINT... BUT I DO THINK IT WILL BE A LITTLE LONGER DOWN THE ROAD... LIKE I SAID.... END OF OCTOBER FIRST OF NOVEMBER IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING...
[Grunt0311] OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WILL BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MONTHS.
[BocaLinda] Grunt0311 I will like for you to share more
[kristi] Grunt0311: Now that is like putting a present out and saying don't touch until Christmas! Sure makes you wonder where to put your money when it does RV
[Jester] BocaLinda HE CAN'T...
[Grunt0311] BocaLinda I WOULD CERTAINLY SHARE MORE IF I COULD RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME OF IT HAS TO UNFOLD BEFORE I DO SO
[Redeye] If they have had their resources seized then wisdom has flown out the window. So much for picking your battles.
[Grunt0311] Redeye THE CABAL ACCOUNTS HAVE INDEED BEEN FROZEN FOR A WHILE NOW, AND ALL TRADING WITHIN THE U.S. WAS CUT OFF ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
[Grunt0311] Redeye TRADING IS HOW THE CABAL GREW THEIR WEALTH.
[llgall] Grunt, are you alluding to the IRS going away & a new tax structure?
[peachestenn] Grunt0311 trading stocks?
[HenryGeorge] Jester I am thinking that the cabal is stringing the Chinese families along, letting them think they are close to victory when they have many hidden assets and plans to rebuild
[Jester] LIKE I TOLD YOU GUYS BEFORE... THERE WILL BE SOME VERY VISIBLE INDICATORS... AND IT WILL BE A DOMINO EFFECT... HAVE SAID BEFORE... WATCH THE DEUTSCHE BANK... THAT IS THE FIRST KEY...
[Grunt0311] llgall NOPE, I AM REFERRING TO BIGGER PICTURE STUFF.
[Jester] OOPS... TIME TO GO.... YOU ALL TAKE CARE...
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